Skip to comments.Kibble for Thought: Dog diversity prompts new evolution theory
Posted on 12/21/2004 8:45:42 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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You don't have to convince me. Hell, even the French Poodle can breed with the German Shephard. You get bull fascists with their paws up.
If you want to call following some guy who was put to death on a cross "political power" that's your prerogative. To me it looks like sheer weakness. But then, I tend to look at the evidence differently than you.
Four men were bragging about how smart their dogs were.
One man was an engineer, the second man was an accountant,
the third man was a chemist, and the fourth was a
To show off, the engineer called to his dog. "T-square,
do your stuff." T-square trotted over to a desk, took out
some paper and a pen, and promptly drew a circle, a
square, and a triangle.
Everyone agreed that that was pretty smart.
The accountant said that his dog could do better. He
called to his dog and said, "Spreadsheet, do your stuff."
Spreadsheet went out into the kitchen and returned with a
dozen cookies. He divided them into four equal piles of
three cookies each.
Everyone agreed that that was good.
The chemist said that his dog could do better still. He
called to his dog and said, "Measure, do your stuff."
Measure got up, walked over to the fridge, took out a
quart of milk, got a ten-ounce glass from the cupboard,
and poured exactly eight ounces without spilling a drop.
Everyone agreed that that was pretty impressive.
Then the three men turned to the government worker and
said, "What can your dog do?"
The government worker called to his dog and said, "Coffee
Break, do your stuff." Coffee Break jumped to his feet,
ate the cookies, drank the milk, claimed he had injured
his back while doing so, filed a grievance report for
unsafe working conditions, put in for workers'
compensation, and went home for the rest of the day on
They all agreed that that was brilliant!
> What scientist do, ideally, is intelligent manipulation of pre-existing materials.
Yes. Sometimes it takes intelligence to create an experiment that reflects a natural setting. But the fact that intelligence is required to create a nature-replicating experiment does not in the slightest imply that intelligence is required in the natural setting itself.
I know someone who is EXACTLY like that dog, and she IS a Government worker!......
Perhaps, perhaps not, but the fact that intelligence has been unable to produce matter, energy and the laws of physics ex nihilo or even offer a rational explanation of same does imply a unique being capable of such wondrous creation.
How do they know it's a "nature-replicating experiment"? Nobody was there to observe the conditions under which, in theory, viruses spontaneously generated from some non-living substance. Circular reasoning.
> does imply a unique being capable of such wondrous creation.
Does it? How?
Just because we don't understand something doesn't mean that there's some magic being behind it.
LOL. Keep telling yourself that, it will warm you on these cold winter nights.
I knew there was a reason I didn't trust the little rats.
> Nobody was there to observe the conditions...
Pre-biotic conditions on Earth cannot be known with certainty, but they can be known *generally* based on conditions foudn in the rest of the universe. Free oxygen, for example, is astonishingly rare. Somewhere around 95% of the visible mass of the universe is hydrogen; thus hydrogen dominates. Free oxygen very rapidly chemicaly bonds with hydrogen and forms water. Same with methane. And there are no known non-biological processes which will both produce and sustain an oxidizing atmosphere. If you were to kill off *all* life on Earth, Earth would have a carbon dioxide/nitrogen atmosphere relatively soon.
Looking at the rest of the universe, we can make a reasonable approximation of wha tthe pre-biotic atmosphere of the Earth was like. It it not "circular reasoning" to conclude that what holds true most places in the universe would also hold true on Earth. Consequently, a CO2/methane/nitrogen atmosphere on the early Earth is entirely reasonable and consistent with all available information.
When you bring a cat into your household, you become staff.
That's your best response?
My Chihuahua thinks she is a wolf!.........
If evidence points towards a creation event then that implies a Creator.
I thought creationists viewed speciation as an example of impossible "macro-evolution." If creationists are now calling speciation "mere micro-evolution," where are they drawing the macro-evolutionary boundry?
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