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To: fr_freak

I see no conflict in evolution and Creationism.

I suspect the evolutionists have it a little wrong, and I suspect the creationists are reading the Bible a little wrong.

I bet it will shake out that: God, the law-giver, created laws of nature. These shake out to be evolution in some form or fasion.

The result is consistent with Intelligent Design. Indeed, anyone who bake bread and does it just right creates something out of seeming chaos.

God spinkled in just the right ingredients in the Universe and baked us up just how he wanted. He knew exactly how the bread would rise.

The Bible is the recipe.
Evolution is the science of the rising bread (from the perspective of the yeast, no less).

I recall very asute readers of prophecy being very surprised by Christ coming along. They expected a military hero, I believe.

They read their Bible wrong. In hindsight, their error could not be more obvious.

Same with the Church going after Galileo. They relied on the Bible (and their pre-existing beliefs) to say Galelio was all wet for his Earth-is-Sphere-that-goes-around-the-Sun theory. Got him excommunicated, in fact.

Knowing what I know now, when I read Genesis, it seem perfectly consistent with the Earth going around the Sun, although I see how someone could take it differently.

Once the details are worked out, I bet it will all harmonize, as well.

(Take this all with a grain of salt. The Big Bang theory always sounded like God saying "Let there be light . . ." to me.)


130 posted on 12/21/2004 11:13:07 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: MeanWestTexan
I see no conflict in evolution and Creationism.

I do. The only scenario I can see where the two would be compatible is if the Creator set the mechanisms in motion and then walked away. However, neither Christians nor Jews, nor any religion that I know of, believe that God is no longer active in the affairs of men, in which case, evolution could not be relied upon as an explanation of current species.

Here's where it falls apart: let's say that God put some simple organisms on the Earth and established the rules by which they would develop (evolution). Given that He is all powerful, He could, at any time, simply bypass the normal evolutionary process. Now, though evolution may remain the main mechanism by which organisms develop on Earth, we would no longer be able to rely on it as a theory to explain all species because, at some point in the fossil and DNA records, a jump was made that didn't follow the rules. That would then put into question ALL of the conclusions we reach from the evidence we gather, because we would never know which species evolved purely from evolutionary mechanisms, and which were given a helping hand by the Creator. If evolution were ever to be a science by which we could determine origins and predict outcomes, there would have to be no external variables.

To sum up, from a logical standpoint, you cannot believe in both a Creator AND evolution (as a predictable set of rules - a science).
160 posted on 12/21/2004 12:14:28 PM PST by fr_freak
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