Remembering Father Mychal Judge, NYC Fire Chaplain

December 22nd, 2004 | self

[watsonfellow]

"To friends, he was known as a gay man who appreciated the Gay USA show and celebrated the city's "gorgeous men" by saying, "Isn't God wonderful?" When his close friend, gay activist Brendan Fay, started a St. Patrick's parade in Queens last year that included gay groups, Judge helped him fund it and showed up in his brown friar's robe to put the church on the side of the oppressed, even as Catholic officialdom was urging a boycott. He frequently donated clothes to the Out of the Closet Thrift Shop for gay and AIDS causes on East 81st Street. He was a longtime member of Dignity, the gay Catholic group. In recent years, he came out to many of those he loved, including Fire Commissioner Tom Von Essen, who warmly accepted him.

Village Voice, September. 19-25, 2001.

[Wallace T.]

Whatever his shortcomings or sins, Fr. Judge died heroically on September 11, 2001 in the line of duty as a chaplain for the New York Fire Department. I won't speculate as to his eternal state, but he should be remembered and honored by the living for his courage, as should the other firemen, policemen, and EMT personnel who died that day.

[Christian4Bush]

Your language is also very peculiar, considering your self-identification as a "Christian"....Who's being self-righteous now?

Did you ever consider...that....hmmm...the "Christian" in my post name...could be...my...oh, I don't know...

NAME?

And as for the "self-righteous" part...I don't feel the need to "out" dead priests' sexual preference, as you do. It just doesn't rank high on my list of things to do in a day. The fact that it does for you, speaks more about you than it does about me.

[watsonfellow]

I guess my problem with Fr. Judge is this. It's not really that he was "gay" etc....but that he worked to tear down Catholic Doctrine of Sexuality......I think the destruction of this doctrine has lead to great evil in the world, promoscuity, the devaluing of life, abortion, std's, the breakdown of family life, divorce, etc.........so for me, his actions on Sept. 11th do not outweigh his destructive actions in taking up the priesthood and then working from the inside to destroy the Church. I feel very strongly on this issue. I believe a man should be remembered the totality of his life, not just the last part. Certainly forgiveness and redemption is an essential part of life and we should not hesitate to extend love and compassion, but it is clear that what Fr. Judge advocated and lived was very dangerous and destructive.

[watsonfellow]

Sorry about the name mixup!

I am hardly "outing" Fr. Judge....indeed try googling him and every single article you will read about him will prominently include these words "gay activist."

Pssst...by the way, I think Elton John may be a little light in the loafers as well! har har har

[Christian4Bush]

A little advice, "watsonfellow", if you can receive it.

I live in America. I work for a living. As such, I don't have all day to do research on priests who died in the line of duty (giving last rites to those killed in a terrorist attach), to see what their sexual orientation was.

He's dead. Whatever judgement happened to him (or didn't happen) is/was up to the Ultimate "Judge", and that's that.

I'm interested to see that you find people's choice of sexual orientation funny...or perhaps the "har har har" at the end of your last post to me, was a hurried attempt to spell "Hark" three times, but you were so anxious to tell me who else you found out was homosexual and famous, you forgot to add the "k" all three times.

It's just my opinion. I don't need to google him. I don't need to condemn him, nor do I want to do so. I guess you do. Welcome to the arena of free speech...and I freely disagree with you.

[wtc911]

Wallace--- I agree with you and I don't think we have to speculate about the whereabouts of Mycah Judge's soul. I was raised Roman Catholic and was taught that there is no greater love than that shown by giving up your life in service to others. This is how Fr. Judge died. I am certain God took him home. We should all die as well as he did.

Watson--- You wrote that you knowledge of Judge's pedophilia comes from a "second hand" source, an attorney connected somehow to the Diocese. It seems to me that this source is more removed than second hand (unless he was a witness). It also occurs to me that, if in fact he is an attorney with Church connections, he is a remarkably untrustworthy individual to be discussing these assertions with you (or anyone), especially given your desire to let the world know what you "know" about this dead man.

[Christian4Bush]

attach==attack

From last rant

[gubamyster]

A 9/11 Hijacking: How 'Gay' Activists Smeared Father Mychal Judge

[Christian4Bush]

Thanks, gubamyster. Now THIS is what I call an informed post (link).

I see you sent a copy of this to He Who Lives Under a Bridge...or is that where trolls live?

[M. Espinola]

Who is the sob who posted that trash about Father Mychal?

I would like to know the name of the low life.

The man gave his life assisting a fellow fireman on America's darkest day equal with Pearl Harbor, yet there is always some sick, demented schmuck which must attack such a saint & hero of man.

[M. Espinola]

Thank you for posting your comments regarding Father Mychal.

[M. Espinola]

I am the guy who posted the tribute to Father Mychal.

If someone like you, yea, even you, was near death after Islamic terrorists attacked America, Father Mychal would have reached out to assist you, even you, if it meant losing his own life in the process, 'watsonfellow'.

[sinkspur]

Read #29.

You shoved both feet in your mouth with your blather on this thread.

[jmc813]

You shoved both feet in your mouth with your blather on this thread.

And spoiled an otherwise touching tribute.

[tuckrdout]

I agree with that statement.