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Is "KEMOSABE" Racist? ("[Canadian] Highest court asked to rule on old Lone Ranger term")
CBC News ^ | 12/22/04 | CBC News

Posted on 12/23/2004 9:03:24 AM PST by dangus

Highest court asked to rule on old Lone Ranger term Last Updated Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:07:01 EST

HALIFAX - The Supreme Court of Canada is being asked to hear arguments on whether the word "kemosabe" is racist to native people.

The request comes from the Nova Scotia Human Rights Commission, which is dealing with a grievance dating back to 1999. ''We think it's time to … have some ground rules so people know what's permissible and what isn't.' – human rights lawyer

Dorothy Kateri Moore, a Mi'kmaq woman working at a sports store in Sydney, N.S., had complained that her boss, Trevor Miller, referred to her and other workers as "kemosabe" – the term used by the 1950s TV character Tonto, the Lone Ranger's sidekick, to describe the masked cowboy.

Moore said Miller told her the word meant "friend." But she claimed it was a racial slur and that its repeated use led to a poisoned work environment.

Last February, a human rights board of inquiry ruled Moore was not discriminated against because she hadn't shown she was offended by the word, nor did she ask her boss to stop using it.

The Nova Scotia Court of Appeal upheld that ruling in October, saying Moore had not shown the term was "notoriously offensive."

For the first time in its 37-year history, the commission has asked the Supreme Court of Canada to appeal a decision of the province's Court of Appeal.

Commission lawyers say they will argue employees were afraid to speak up to their employer and they want the Supreme Court to draw the line on what language is acceptable in the workplace.

"The idea that there are some words that are notoriously offensive and some that aren't, and the burden on the employee shifts depending on that, really creates a lot of confusion in the workplace," said commission lawyer Michael Wood. Actors Jay Silverheels as Tonto, and Clayton Moore in the title role of "The Lone Ranger"(AP photo)

"We think it's time to clarify that and have some ground rules so people know what's permissible and what isn't."

During the inquiry hearings, several members of the Mi'kmaq community testified that "kemosabe" was a racial slur, although others said they were not offended by it.

The board of inquiry spent one day looking at old Lone Ranger shows, eventually concluding that the term was never used in a derogatory way and that Tonto and the Lone Ranger treated each other with respect.

The Supreme Court has yet to decide if it will hear the appeal.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanindians; dangus; hosers; kemosabe; loneranger; pc
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My $.02: Any word can be used in a way which creates a hostile work environment. If I walk past a subordinate at work, and say, "Hi, Catnip" in a menacing tone of voice, Catnip can become derogatory.

If Timmy walks past Louie, who happens to be black, and says, "Merry Kwaanza" every day in the right tone of voice, eventually Louie can darn well start to feel as if Timmy is pointing out daily that Louie is black. And, thus, he can feel racially discriminated by Timmy. Especially if he doesn't celebrate Kwaanza.

The standard is "be nice." If Kateri Moore doesn't like being called Kemosabe, she can tell Mr Miller that being given a nickname which highlights her race makes her feel uncomfortable. But apparently what she expects is to be able to neurotically not speak up for herself at all, until her rage explodes and she runs to a lawyer.

Lawsuits are for protecting victims, not enabling deep neurotics. What is absurd is the attempt to include "Kemosabe" in a list of words which are inherently offensive, and punish Mr Miller for not recognizing this heretofore unestablished fact.

1 posted on 12/23/2004 9:03:25 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
Name Tonto's horse?..

Bonus question: name Dale Evans' horse?

2 posted on 12/23/2004 9:05:39 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: dangus

What if she were called "SQUAW"?........


3 posted on 12/23/2004 9:06:23 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: Admin Moderator

I don't know if it matters, but the article appears was from cbC news, not cbS news. If people click on the link, they'll get the message, so if it don't matter to you, I don't care.


4 posted on 12/23/2004 9:06:26 AM PST by dangus
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History of "kemosabe."
5 posted on 12/23/2004 9:06:41 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: ken5050

Mr. Horse


7 posted on 12/23/2004 9:07:35 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: dangus

What a bunch of "PC" sickos!


8 posted on 12/23/2004 9:07:43 AM PST by Budge (<><)
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To: dangus

http://www.write101.com/kemosabe.htm


9 posted on 12/23/2004 9:08:24 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: dangus

Didn't it translate to "soggy shirt"? Now for the 64 K question, WHO CARES. There is way too many improant issues to be taken care of down here, than worry about what some stupid court in Canada has to say.


10 posted on 12/23/2004 9:08:24 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth,rebel by choice, MARINE BY GOD!)
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To: dangus

Kemosabe = "Daddy"


11 posted on 12/23/2004 9:08:36 AM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: ken5050

Scout


12 posted on 12/23/2004 9:08:39 AM PST by Budge (<><)
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To: ken5050

Tonto - Scout
Dale Evans - Buttercup


13 posted on 12/23/2004 9:08:46 AM PST by vikingvx
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To: TMSuchman

http://www.write101.com/kemosabe.htm


14 posted on 12/23/2004 9:09:01 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: Budge

very good..


15 posted on 12/23/2004 9:09:16 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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16 posted on 12/23/2004 9:09:28 AM PST by Pikamax
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Why are you guys concerning yourselves with the political correctness of the word "Kemosabe" while our troops are getting slaughtered? Haven't you got anything more worthwhile to talk about?


17 posted on 12/23/2004 9:09:28 AM PST by Visual Politics (http://visualpolitics.blogspot.com)
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To: ken5050
Those were easy Ken. Tonto's horse was Scout and Dale Evan's horse was Buttermilk. What was the name of the jeep driven by Pat Butram?
19 posted on 12/23/2004 9:10:27 AM PST by Jemian (I'd be a sun worshipper if I weren't already a SON WORSHIPPER!)
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Scout and Buttermilk, respectively.

You betchum, Red Rider!

20 posted on 12/23/2004 9:10:42 AM PST by SAJ
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