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(Rainbow) Flag stirs flap at Howell High
Ann Arbor News ^ | 12-23-04 | STEPHENIE KOEHN

Posted on 12/23/2004 12:27:36 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

Flag stirs flap at Howell High
Controversy centered over meaning of Diversity Club message

Thursday, December 23, 2004
BY STEPHENIE KOEHN
News Staff Reporter
What is the meaning of a rainbow?

For many who see one during or after a rainstorm, it's a harbinger of good luck or at least a warm and fuzzy feeling. In the form of a flag hanging at Howell High School, however, it has created a controversy between those who see it as an expression of diversity and those who see it as supporting homosexuality.

Confusion over the meaning of the flag, said Howell High School Principal Margaret Hamill, is at the root of the controversy.

The flag, made and hung by the school's 20-member Diversity Club, has some students at the school fuming because it is so closely associated with the gay pride movement.

"Some kids in the school don't accept homosexuality and the flag is an affront to their religious beliefs," said senior Laura Steinberger, the school's student liaison to the Board of Education. Steinberger brought the controversy to the board's attention at a recent meeting.

"It's not a gay pride flag, like most people think, said junior Krista Tarrant, 16, a member of the club.

"It represents diversity as a whole," said junior R.J. Cuthbertson, also 16 and a member of the club. "We put it up to show that everyone is safe here and this is an accepting community."

"It was a decision of the group to hang the flag," said Cathryn Capy, the club's faculty adviser.

The club was formed several years ago to encourage diversity in all its forms, but had no returning members for the 2004-2005 school year, so Cuthbertson said "we basically restarted the club last fall."

"Some students and some members of the community have been a little bit confused by the flag and what it means," Hamill said. As a result of the confusion, she said, club members plan to attach an applique to the flag to clarify the its intention as a statement by the club in support of diversity.

Hamill said she has received several phone calls from parents expressing concern about the flag. She said they seemed less concerned after she explained what it means in the eyes of the students in the club.

Despite efforts to defuse the situation, Steinberger said the controversy still rages at the school. "Everyone has an opinion," she said. "From what I'm hearing, it's running 5-1 against the flag. I've heard rumors about people wanting to bring in paint balls and fire them at the flag, but they're too aware of the security cameras to chance being caught."

"We have to be very careful when we have a symbol that we don't identify just one meaning for it," Hamill said. In the case of the rainbow flag, she said, there is ample historical background. "(The Rev.) Jesse Jackson adopted it for the Rainbow Coalition (that he hoped to forge). I think that squares with our vision for the school. We want our students to be tolerant of others, no matter how they dress, look, learn or worship."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: brainwashing; celebrateperversity; celebratesin; culturewar; diversity; doasthouwill; downourthroats; gay; gayagenda; hatethesin; hedonists; homo; homosexualagenda; howell; ifitfeelsgooddoit; indoctrination; inourfaces; jackson; libertines; livingstoncounty; lovethesinner; michigan; pc; politcallycorrect; politicalcorrectness; rainbow; rainbowflag; rainbows; schools; sexpositiveagenda
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Margaret, go back to Ann Arbor(I'll bet money you ain't from around here). We don't need this stuff here. Either Jesse or the gay agendas. Luckily most around here have good BS detectors.

BTW - Go Bulldogs(Howell's rival). :)

1 posted on 12/23/2004 12:27:37 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

When a movement has its own flag, it is a seperatist movement.


2 posted on 12/23/2004 12:29:18 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Dan from Michigan
The Cusco region in Peru?


3 posted on 12/23/2004 12:30:40 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

What I find most disgusting is that they (the homosexual community) have taken the rainbow (a symbol from God) and used it for a flag that represents the glorification of a disgusting lifestyle. Parents really need to wake up and tell their children that we should love all people, BUT we should call sin what it is.


4 posted on 12/23/2004 12:31:55 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Dan from Michigan

Back in the "innocent" 1990s, a co-worker went to buy a flag for his backyard. He purchased a confederate flag while his wife selected a pretty rainbow colored flag. The clerk at the checkout was baffled.


5 posted on 12/23/2004 12:32:05 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"It represents diversity as a whole,"

...and the Swastika represents love and charity. I guess we can a thing to be anything we want today.

6 posted on 12/23/2004 12:32:12 PM PST by nosofar
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To: Dan from Michigan; kt56
Perhaps someone should sneak onto the school grounds and night run up a Confederate Flag right underneath the Rainbow one. You think THAT will get anyone's attention?
7 posted on 12/23/2004 12:32:26 PM PST by misharu
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To: Dan from Michigan
"It's not a gay pride flag, like most people think

"It represents diversity as a whole

These people are lying. Period.

8 posted on 12/23/2004 12:32:46 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: weegee

hahaha...


9 posted on 12/23/2004 12:33:19 PM PST by dakine
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To: weegee
Actually that's inaccurate. This flag is supposed to symbolize the Tawantinsuyo (a.k.a. Inka Empire). It is extensively used in Cuzco, where local authorities don't cease to highlight that their city is NOT a Mecca for tuttifruttis.
10 posted on 12/23/2004 12:33:22 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: weegee

I don't know about where these folks are, but here the "unity" flag is one of the under the radar symbols gays use to identify one another.


11 posted on 12/23/2004 12:34:28 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: massgopguy

Regardless it is political activism on campus at a high school.


12 posted on 12/23/2004 12:34:46 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

This is the first news of this sort I've heard in Howell. I thought my kids were safe out here. Looks like I need to look into St. Joe's school.


13 posted on 12/23/2004 12:35:04 PM PST by TruthFactor (A mind is a terrible thing to waste with a PC Education.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Where is this "flag" flying. Hopefully not anywhere near Old Glory!


14 posted on 12/23/2004 12:35:13 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: Kurt_D

I remembered seeing it (and genuine rainbows, including some double rainbows) down there and knew that it wasn't a gay rights sign or marker for Lake Tuttifrutti.


15 posted on 12/23/2004 12:36:49 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Some kids in the school don't accept homosexuality and the flag is an affront to their religious beliefs," said senior Laura Steinberger, the school's student liaison to the Board of Education. Steinberger brought the controversy to the board's attention at a recent meeting.

"It represents diversity as a whole," said junior R.J. Cuthbertson, also 16 and a member of the club. "We put it up to show that everyone is safe here and this is an accepting community."

As a Christian who has every right to think homosexual activity morally wrong, I certainly would not feel "safe" or "accepted" in any school that promoted the gay activist agenda through flying one of their flags.

16 posted on 12/23/2004 12:37:01 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm not sure this flag can be redefined as just a flag of diversity. Those who fly it in the real world see it as a their banner, not everyone's banner. That's not diverse. It's exclusive.


17 posted on 12/23/2004 12:37:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I think that squares with our vision for the school. We want our students to be tolerant of others, no matter how they dress, look, learn or worship.

Hang the flag of the Holy See and let's see how accepting they are...

18 posted on 12/23/2004 12:38:02 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: Dan from Michigan

--disgusting enough that two perfectly good words: "gay" and "queen" have been lost to normal usage-now the rainbow too?


19 posted on 12/23/2004 12:39:59 PM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: nosofar

Was it the Red Queen who said that her words meant whatever she wanted them to mean? Someone needs to tell these kids that their rainbow flag is representative of a movement hateful to God and that "diversity" is a code word for the same thing.


20 posted on 12/23/2004 12:40:18 PM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

"It's not a gay pride flag, like most people think, said junior Krista Tarrant, 16, a member of the club.
Idiot!

There are sections of cities here in California, where all the businesses have their little Rainbow Flag
(Gay Pride=translation: Radical Gay Agenda)
at the door or Gays will not patronize the business.

Reminds me of the stores and shops in South Central LA, where the owner tried to save the business by painting a large" Black Owned" across the front during the Rodney King Riot.


21 posted on 12/23/2004 12:40:19 PM PST by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

"Luvvy, we're pulling our funding!"

22 posted on 12/23/2004 12:41:56 PM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: nosofar
The swastika represents good luck. The crooked swastika (Hitler's art degree put to use, tilting the familiar shape) is the Nazi logo.

Even today some people force our government to tear up UPA titling that exhibits non-Nazi swastikas.

23 posted on 12/23/2004 12:41:59 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: JennysCool

Is that Terry and Kerry Heinz on vacation?


24 posted on 12/23/2004 12:42:40 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Ramonan

There are gay yellow pages circulated around town as well.

"Diversity"? No.

Yet Christians are "dogmatic" if they push for a boycott of a business.


25 posted on 12/23/2004 12:44:01 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
...the school's 20-member Diversity Club,...

Lets see Christians try to get into the club and influence it. They will quickly say "Go To H*ll" to diversity... Only people who endorse the liberal extremist agenda are welcome.

Maybe they can get a flag put up also. In the name of accepting all types of diverse lifestyles, of course.

26 posted on 12/23/2004 12:44:25 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: weegee

John and Terry are Howell wannabes.


27 posted on 12/23/2004 12:45:40 PM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: TenaciousZ
"It represents diversity as a whole

Then they should be fine with a cross on the flag.

28 posted on 12/23/2004 12:45:40 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Why not hang a white flag as a symbol of diversity? It stands for "nothing" and should be innoffensive to everyone (except those who see it as a French battle flag).

The abscence of all projected color (light) is black while the presence of all colors in the spectrum is white.

29 posted on 12/23/2004 12:46:45 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: TruthFactor
I'm now in Howell although I'm a Brighton native. I never saw this over there as a student(pre-Columbine) or coach and I haven't been away THAT long.

That said, after Columbine, I'm sending my kids to private school when I'm a dad.

30 posted on 12/23/2004 12:47:00 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: JennysCool

"Yale? Egads! Hah-vahd, m'boy!"


31 posted on 12/23/2004 12:47:39 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I don't think that we need to be as worried about another Columbine so much as another Beslan.


32 posted on 12/23/2004 12:48:30 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Not a bad idea. It is rich in symbolism, the existance of all spectrums of light.


33 posted on 12/23/2004 12:48:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: JennysCool
They aren't good enough for here. We pounded them 60-40 here. Probably 65-35 if you count the whole school district.

Must be why the 'diversity club' has 100% turnover.....

34 posted on 12/23/2004 12:50:05 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Dan from Michigan
Wonder how they'd react to a Confederate flag?

And how would the liberals expain the difference? ("One's good, 'cuz we like it, and the other is bad, 'cuz we don't like it!")

If offensive flags are being removed in the South, then they must be in Michigan as well.

35 posted on 12/23/2004 12:51:12 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Unam Sanctam

If the judical activism displayed by the Supreme Court was only supposed to affect "consenting adults in private", why are homosexuals allowed to have clubs at schools? Sounds like some minors are getting into something that was supposed to be for "adults only".

If they take to the streets, push for marriage, and have iconic symbols, that is hardly "in private".


36 posted on 12/23/2004 12:51:21 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Teacher317
I've actually seen more than a few confederate flags up here.
37 posted on 12/23/2004 12:54:17 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: weegee

I'm referring to the zero tolerance crap.


38 posted on 12/23/2004 12:54:45 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Dan from Michigan

Hey, I'm all for Rainbow Flags..., as long as Noah's Ark is beneath the rainbow....


39 posted on 12/23/2004 12:55:18 PM PST by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Basketball! Beat Serra!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Notice there is no white in the "diversity" flag.

When Mayor Brown (D) ran for his final bid in 2001, his campaign stickers showed "paperdoll" like figures in dark brown, tan, and white (or was it peach?) stacked in that order. It said something like "mayor for everybody". The opposition candidate was Orlando Sanchez (R) who was born in Cuba. Then again, the Democrats were putting up Sanchez is AntiHispanic signs and saying that because he was from Cuba, he wasn't "really" hispanic.

Liberal bigots are quite the racists when they want to be.


40 posted on 12/23/2004 12:56:03 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

The rainbow as a symbol isn't owned by the diversiholics, in spite of what we may read or be told.


41 posted on 12/23/2004 12:59:10 PM PST by Tax Government (Boycott and defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"It's not a gay pride flag, like most people think, said junior Krista Tarrant, 16, a member of the club.

BS pure and simple. I have never seen a person with a rainbow flag that was not gay. Also as A Christian it angers me very much that these people are using Gods symbol to never destroy the world by flood again as their flag.

42 posted on 12/23/2004 1:00:58 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: weegee

Good points. It is funny how the democrats reveal their dark underbelly when they can't avoid it.


43 posted on 12/23/2004 1:05:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I work in Howell across from the high school. I haven't seen the flag yet but it shocks me that it's still standing.
I'll give odds that it won't be for long. :)


44 posted on 12/23/2004 1:06:28 PM PST by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Can the Civil War history club fly a Confederate flag ??


45 posted on 12/23/2004 1:15:59 PM PST by XRdsRev (New Jersey has more horses per square mile than any other U.S. state.)
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To: weegee
Back in the "innocent" 1990s, a co-worker went to buy a flag for his backyard. He purchased a confederate flag while his wife selected a pretty rainbow colored flag. The clerk at the checkout was baffled.

LOL

46 posted on 12/23/2004 1:17:14 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Dan from Michigan

We all know that burning the American Flag is protected as "free speech" (gag).

But I'll bet that if someone burned this flag they would be charged with a hate crime.

Go figure.


47 posted on 12/23/2004 1:22:16 PM PST by Beckwith (John, you said I was going to be the First Lady, as of now, you're on the couch . . .)
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To: XRdsRev

Re: Your tagline - Unfortunately, some parts of the state have more horses' posteriors than horses. (Maryland is the same way.)


48 posted on 12/23/2004 1:25:44 PM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: Beckwith
"But I'll bet that if someone burned this flag they would be charged with a hate crime."

Not if you owned it and burned it on private property.

49 posted on 12/23/2004 1:29:19 PM PST by A Navy Vet (CARE PACKAGES for our TROOPS: www.opgratitude.com - www.anysoldier.com - www.uso.org)
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To: HamiltonJay
, but here the "unity" flag is one of the under the radar symbols gays use to identify one another.

In the French Quarter in New Orleans, it is openly promoted and flown by stores eager to show how much they want the business of that community.

50 posted on 12/23/2004 1:55:09 PM PST by PAR35
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