"We must recount every ballot until we win!"
Posted on 12/25/2004 10:35:11 AM PST by hipaatwo
If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential president-in-waiting has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George Bush's reelection is no longer a given.
On 23 December, 2004 Kerry's lawyer confirmed to MSNBC's 'Countdown' that John Kerry will be seeking (likely on Monday 27 Dec.) to expedite court proceedings in an ongoing recount suit by the Green and Libertarian parties. That might sound like just another "count every vote" exercise by the Kerry campaign, were it not for two important details.
Kerry's court filing will conjoin him to existing allegations that Triad Systems, a Republican-linked supplier of voting machines to around half of Ohio counties --"orchestrated" a covert campaign to thwart a legitimate recount in Ohio. If the allegation proves well founded, it could invalidate the Ohio recount and eventually even hand the presidency to John Kerry.
Which probably explains the second critical detail: a quiet, on the record bombshell statement to 'Countdown' by Daniel Hoffheimer, the Cincinnati lawyer representing the Kerry campaign in Ohio.
Previously, the Kerry Campaign's intent in Ohio seemed to be merely an exercise of American civic spiritedness.
Two weeks ago, when Kerry wrote to Ohio's 88 county boards of election asking to visually inspect some ballots, Donald McTigue, the lawyer handling the recount for the Kerry campaign said: "We're trying to increase the transparency of the election process."
In early December, when the Kerry Campaign joined a suit by Green and Libertarian party candidates seeking a recount in Delaware County, Daniel Hoffheimer said Kerry wasn't disputing President Bush's victory in Ohio. The aim was to make sure any recount was "done accurately and completely," Hoffheimer said.
Now MSNBC 'Countdown' reports the same Hoffheimer, in comments on their imminent filing in the Ohio recount, concluding their call for a scrupulous recount with this caveat:
"...Only then can the integrity of the entire electoral process and the election of Bush/Cheney warrant the public trust."
That's the first time the Kerry Campaign has impugned the legitimacy of Bush's reelection.
RECOUNT CHEAT SHEETS
It's a signal move, likely driven by emerging evidence of suspicious activity by representatives of Triad Systems during the recount in Ohio. Evidence which has led a senior Democrat, ranking House Judiciary Cmtee. member, John Conyers Jr. to accuse the boss of Triad Systems of "orchestrating" a criminal conspiracy to pervert the outcome of the Ohio recount.
The allegations first surfaced before an Ohio hearing convened by Conyers on behalf of Democratic Minority members of the House Judiciary Committee. An affidavit filed by Sherole Eaton, Hocking County deputy director of elections, stated that a Triad representative had told her "how to post a 'cheat sheet' on the wall so the ...count would come out perfect and we wouldn't have to do a full hand recount of the county."
That account has been corroborated by other officials and by extracts from a video documentary in which a Triad technician admits that the company was in possession of computer "backup" copies of the official election data.
SIGNAL, THEN MANEUVER
If the recount was fraudulent, does that have implications for the validity of the first count in Ohio? The Kerry campaign knows full well that it does. That's why their latest statement questions the "integrity" of the "entire" electoral process. And the election of Bush/Cheney.
For Kerry, a fraudulent recount in Ohio could be an open door into to the Oval Office. Already, John Conyers is confident that a few U.S. Senators will join House members on January 6 to question the November 2 election. On Thursday, the Chicago Tribune reported that in a conference call with journalists Jesse Jackson said that Kerry had conceded the presidential election "much too soon. Before all the facts were in."
But don't expect Kerry to quickly rush to a microphone in order to unconcede. He doesn't have to. His unconcession will take effect by default.
If the Ohio recount is shown fraudulent, the domino effect could carry him through that door without claiming victory or even unconceding.
Simply by allowing Bush's claim on the Office of President to fall --piece by fraudulent piece. Nudging the dominoes to topple in the right way.
Thus leaving Kerry, poised to step into office over the Bush debris.
When does the recount start in PA, WI, NM, and NH, where the vote difference was less than OH? (And don't even get me started about Philly!)
Jan 7th President Bush orders the arrest of J Fn Curry. He releases his military records that shows that he was a traitor subject to war crimes that he acknowedged during his Senate testimony. His Senate service will be invalidated, his right to seek the presidency will be shown to be illegal, (as shown at this site in many posting). He is interned at Guantanamo with his brother terrorists and a trial in the Supreme Court is ordered.
seems to me once the electoral college votes are certified this all becomes mute unless Ohio law trumps the US Constitution?
The Dems won't win another election for 100 years afterward.
WELL ! You don't have to get SNIPPY about it.
Merry Christmas and Prayers for Our Troops
crapola again by the rats!!! Gotta keep the liberal loons happy.
Sometimes you have to feed the crocodiles.
I don't know about 100 years, but if they go through with this, it will make them appear even more childish then they already look, and that is saying something.
Please Santa, PLEASE: Please let this be true!!
The Curse of the Gore falls upon another demcRat Presidential Candidate.
democRat motto: If at first you don't win, count again under new rules.
ring
I'm from Philly how do you think I feel! I'm waiting for my Mayor to go to jail :)
Its not about challenging the election outcome. What this is about is casting doubt on the legitimacy of Bush's win. Never mind he won 3.5 million more votes than John F*ckin' nationwide. By beating the drums of Ohio, the Left can nurse a pretend grievance for the next four years and lay the groundwork for mounting an impeachment drive against the President. The Bush haters are not going to go away any time soon.
You know they'll be able to find some Clinton federal judge somewhere to declare that the mere fact that Bush won was somehow unconstitutional (violates equal treatment by denying Democrats the chance to steal an election?).
Also, it's moot, not mute. Mute is someone who can't talk, or that thing you shove in the end of a trumpet to make the sound quieter.
video = audio
"Listen to the video". Sheeeesh. Should have said "Watch the audio."
Really. The more they act like this, the better Republicans look in future elections. They still haven't figured out why they lost--that much is obvious.
Thats sounds like Kerry is about to start a Coup to me.......
"We must recount every ballot until we win!"
All the Rats are doing is using the idiots from places like DUmmys to stir sh*t up. They have nothing to lose by letting this stuff go on. They have already lost everything.
They hope to create a small cadre of delusional, bitter sorelosers to use in future fundraising and activism.
These idiots at DUmmys don't even know (yet) how badly they are being used. I can't wait until they pull the rug out from under them on 1/6. I will be there to watch.
Hey DUmmys! Better wake up and smell the coffee, you are being used like a cheap whore.
Bwaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaaaaaaa!!!
AZ JOE
"seems to me once the electoral college votes are certified this all becomes mute unless Ohio law trumps the US Constitution?"
That would be "moot", not "mute".
That aside, it will be hard for John F'n Kerry to win now that NY voted all 31 electoral votes for John L Kerry.
LOL!
Bush has won Ohio. It appears that there will challenge from both the House and The Senate to the electorial slate as I predicted earlier.
The GOP has the votes in both houses, however, since the Governor of Ohio is a Republican, Bush needs only one House of Congress.
"I conceded before I didn't concede." - John F. Kerry
The Democrat Fedayeen
This would be GREAT if they actually go through with this challenge. The red counties in the blue states need to start pulling a little harder, and this could be enough motivation to swing the tide in those closer states.
Now all we have to do it make it easier for the rats to jump ship and move to other countries, I don't care which ones.
Totally agree. They got tons of mileage from that tact after '00 Florida and without it they have nothing, nada, zero.
If they try it again, however, the gloves come off..with W, Rove, Frist, and 61 million of their closest friends. Not to mention converting some moderates to the good side. They don't have the nerve to do it, imho.
"Jan 7th President Bush orders the arrest of J Fn Curry. He releases his military records that shows that he was a traitor subject to war crimes that he acknowedged during his Senate testimony. His Senate service will be invalidated, his right to seek the presidency will be shown to be illegal, (as shown at this site in many posting). He is interned at Guantanamo with his brother terrorists and a trial in the Supreme Court is ordered."
And that's the rest of the story!
(Perhaps forever unexecuted/unreported)
Pelosi has already said she'll attempt to have compadres
in the Senate challenge the Ohio Electors.
The game is still afoot, and Alberto Gonzales had better
earn his stripes on this subterfuge.
*pedantic FDR baritone*
"I actually lost the election before I demanded not to lose it."
My GAWD! You're right. New York cast its 31 electoral votes
for John L. Kerry:
http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/2004_certificates/vote_new_york_03.html
The fine hand of Sen. Clinton at work.
First time I've seen that one. Thanks.
It's tack, not tact. Tact is something Freepers don't have when correcting others english! ;^p
You mean he's gonna flip-flop again?
A little extreme. But, I like it!
It's Coup! The "p" is silent, as in swimming.
ACTUALLY...Coup is the correct term, as in the Kerry-esque "Coup d' etat". CoOp is where you keep your chickens.
We've moved from "endless campaigns" to "endless elections."
LOL Good one.
Actually, 'tack' is riding equipment, f'rinstance a moose saddle.
These clowns wanted electronic voting. When they didn't get the result they liked, the cranks among them screamed bloody murder. This guy is writing as if we would do nothing if John Conyers got some liberal Senators to agree with him that Bushhitler stole the election.
You know why Conyers and other Democrats are up to this? They are trying to gin up the liberals to keep them angry and devoted to the Democrats. Bush beat them so convincingly this time that they can't create a new "Stolen Election" myth. That's bad for fundraising.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
I searched, it didn't show. Unfortunately it's not the first time. Not sure why it happens.
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