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Big Ben Back to Beginning: Facing Ravens (Roethlisberger/Steelers Try One More)
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 12/26/04 | Ed Bouchette

Posted on 12/26/2004 7:31:24 AM PST by beyond the sea

Ben Roethlisberger can take it full circle today against the Ravens. Back on Sept. 19 in Baltimore, the rookie quarterback was flung into the NFL's high seas, sink or swim. Today, he can skipper the Steelers to the AFC's treasure island, the No. 1 seed in the playoffs.

"That first game, he got his feet wet,'' receiver Hines Ward said. "He's in the water now."

Roethlisberger went from "some little young kid who's just out of college" -- Alan Faneca's infamous description -- to royalty in Pittsburgh in the past three months. He's 12-0, a Pro Bowl alternate, Dapper Dan Man of the Year, a David Letterman guest, Big Ben, with sandwiches and untold babies named after him. He hasn't lost in the past 25 games, going back to his days at Miami (Ohio), as a starter. He did taste losing Sept. 19 when he replaced injured Tommy Maddox early in the third quarter and threw two touchdowns and two interceptions in a 30-13 Ravens victory.

It is the only Steelers loss in a 13-1 season. One more victory, either today or next Sunday in Buffalo, would earn the Steelers a bye in the first round of the playoffs, setting the stage for two victories at home to reach the Super Bowl in Jacksonville.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afc; football; nfl; playoffs; ravens; rookie; steelers; streak; superbowl
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one more time?
1 posted on 12/26/2004 7:31:25 AM PST by beyond the sea
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To: beyond the sea

I don't see any way the Ravens can win this game. They managed only ten points last week against the weak Colts D - how will they do against the Steelers? And the Ravens vaunted 'D' is in decline. And if they lose this game the playoffs are gone too.


2 posted on 12/26/2004 7:34:45 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
And if they lose this game the playoffs are gone too.

That's motivation. I'm just glad we have this one at home. Crowd noise at Heinz is the 12th man on the field.

3 posted on 12/26/2004 7:36:12 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: beyond the sea
Time for Ben to silence any remaining doubters.

BTW, could any team have an easier schedule than the Eagles?

4 posted on 12/26/2004 7:36:52 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: Americanwolf; Terpfen; annyokie; xsmommy; Willie Green; WinOne4TheGipper; Prime Choice; Beckwith; ..
The Super Bowl also is where no rookie quarterback has gone, at least not as a starter.

"It's hard to think of him as a rookie because I think he's earned the respect of all the veteran guys," said Jerome Bettis, a 12-year veteran. "Just through his play, how he's been able to manage the games and be consistent enough to win football games. The notion of the rookie kind of went out the door after we started winning and he didn't play like a rookie." ------

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Snow flurries and around 23 degrees herein the 'Burgh right now. Ben's been looking real happy all week in the papers and in the news. Here's hoping he's still smiling at around 4:15 p.m. today.

Yoi, double yoi!

5 posted on 12/26/2004 7:37:28 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea

Here we go, Steelers! Here we go!

6 posted on 12/26/2004 7:38:39 AM PST by Petronski (Don't ask me about my pneumonia...it's making me very cranky.)
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To: airborne

Anybody that's still doubting Ben now will never be silenced. That being said I'm really glad the Dolphins beat the Pats Monday and gave my beloved Steelers a game of cushion. This is one of the games I've been fearing since we beat the Pats and got the tie-breaker for home field.


7 posted on 12/26/2004 7:41:34 AM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: airborne; Glenn; Rummyfan
BTW, could any team have an easier schedule than the Eagles?

Nearly anyone in the NFC.

Ben's looking real relaxed this week as Burress seems to be coming back to try to cause some mayhem. I hear martin_fierro is in the 'Burgh this weekend, so maybe the great one is right there on the 50 yard line....... or better yet, out in the parking lot mooching barbecued ribs and beer from some faithful Stiller fans!

8 posted on 12/26/2004 7:41:39 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea

The article seems a bit ambiguous to me: a win today not only gets Pittsburgh the bye, but also guarantees home field advantage throughout.


9 posted on 12/26/2004 7:41:54 AM PST by Petronski (Don't ask me about my pneumonia...it's making me very cranky.)
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To: beyond the sea
one more time?

Yes, one more time. Win today, lose next week, help Buffalo get into the playoffs : ^ )

10 posted on 12/26/2004 7:42:21 AM PST by fhayek
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To: beyond the sea

And in the voice of Myron Cope "What's going on down there???"


11 posted on 12/26/2004 7:42:34 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: beyond the sea
Looks like I'll be watching the game from the Giant Center in Hershey. I have tickets for a 5 PM hockey game. Hershey Bears vs. Norfolk Admirals.

GO STEELERS!!!

12 posted on 12/26/2004 7:42:50 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: E Rocc

Here you go. Stick to what you know.


13 posted on 12/26/2004 7:44:30 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: beyond the sea

No fan of the Eagles here. But they don't make the schedule and can only play the opponents they are presented with. They also benefit by being in the NFC Least. However, their season just went out with TO. Oh they'll beat the Rams and whomever they play next week, but the playoffs are another matter.


14 posted on 12/26/2004 7:45:27 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: beyond the sea

Word on the street is that the Steelers' locker room ain't the happy place it should be at this point. Some of the veterans seem to think Big Ben is getting a little too big for his britches.


15 posted on 12/26/2004 7:46:37 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: beyond the sea

Plaxico Burress will start today!!!


16 posted on 12/26/2004 7:48:35 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: Petronski

"Right now I feel pretty good," Burress said. "I'm going to give it a go and play and do the things I'm capable of doing."

Burress fully tested his hamstring for the first time Wednesday in practice and felt tightness the next day.

"It was a little sore," he said. "But I think it was all the muscles around the hamstring. I feel a lot better now."

He practiced each day this week, returning to the first team, returning to patterns that whisked him downfield. So fast was Burress on one occasion, he needed to decelerate to catch a long pass from Ben Roethlisberger Thursday.


17 posted on 12/26/2004 7:49:27 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: Wolfie; Petronski; beyond the sea
Guess who the backup QB for the Ravens is??

Hee hee hee!

18 posted on 12/26/2004 7:51:34 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: Rummyfan
And if they lose this game the playoffs are gone too.
With their record wouldn't they at least get a wildcard spot? Not an expert - just asking ... ;-)
19 posted on 12/26/2004 7:51:47 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Repeal the 22nd Amendment!)
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To: dennisw
Here you go. Stick to what you know.
I know I hate both these teams....LOL.

-Eric

20 posted on 12/26/2004 7:51:49 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Wolfie
He's 12-0, a Pro Bowl alternate, Dapper Dan Man of the Year, a David Letterman guest, Big Ben, with sandwiches and untold babies named after him. He hasn't lost in the past 25 games, going back to his days at Miami (Ohio), as a starter.

It's tough to believe the kid is too big for his britches. It ain't braggin' if he can do it. It's also tough to believe there could be much resentment for 13 and 1.

21 posted on 12/26/2004 7:53:54 AM PST by Petronski (Don't ask me about my pneumonia...it's making me very cranky.)
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To: Wolfie
Word on the street is that the Steelers' locker room ain't the happy place it should be at this point. Some of the veterans seem to think Big Ben is getting a little too big for his britches.
Roethlisberger really hasn't been all that impressive if you look at his numbers. He's more Mike Kruczek than Terry Bradshaw. He benefits from having a tremendous OL (and the resulting running game) and, ironically, from being a little hesitant. He takes sacks at times when Stewart would have tried to force a play and fumbled or thrown a pick. The main reason the Squealers have been so good, their D, has been overlooked.

Luke McCown is going to be a better NFL quarterback than Roethlisberger, if the Browns ever get him a line (D'Brickshaw Ferguson....come on down).

-Eric

22 posted on 12/26/2004 7:55:49 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Petronski

Just telling you what's coming, off the record, from the beat reporters who cover the locker room. None of them will report it officially, for obvious reasons.


23 posted on 12/26/2004 7:56:24 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
"Word on the street is that the Steelers' locker room ain't the happy place it should be at this point. Some of the veterans seem to think Big Ben is getting a little too big for his britches."

Sounds a bit like disease that has infected the Dimocrats.

Those supposed rumored "unhappy" players wouldn't be suffering from the same thing, would they?

I mean ... I mean ... they are all team players, right?

24 posted on 12/26/2004 7:56:44 AM PST by G.Mason ("Liberty means responsibility. Thatís why most men dread it". ó George Bernard Shaw)
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To: E Rocc
...Squealers...

Try to be an adult.

25 posted on 12/26/2004 7:57:20 AM PST by Petronski (Don't ask me about my pneumonia...it's making me very cranky.)
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To: airborne
Guess who the backup QB for the Ravens is??
Pun intended?

-Eric

26 posted on 12/26/2004 7:59:01 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Wolfie
Some of the veterans seem to think Big Ben is getting a little too big for his britches.

That's BS. Ben gives more credit to his teammates than any other quarterback I've ever watched. You never get the feeling listening to this guy or the other offensive players that there is anything but mutual respect.

What street are you hanging out on in Pittsburgh, by the way?

27 posted on 12/26/2004 8:01:52 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: G.Mason
I mean ... I mean ... they are all team players, right?

Yep, sure thing. The particluar player voicing these concerns used to be the media darling in Pittsburgh before Big Ben took off.

28 posted on 12/26/2004 8:02:13 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: E Rocc
A true Steelers fan knows it's the defense that is the reason for the 13-1 record. Ben is like the lead singer in a rock band. He gets the press. I think some of of the team might be jealous, but they aren't going to do something to get themselves sidetracked.(I hope)
29 posted on 12/26/2004 8:02:15 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: E Rocc

Cordell Stewart is no pun. Pun(k) maybe.


30 posted on 12/26/2004 8:03:47 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: Rummyfan

I am still trying to figure out how Miami beat New England last monday.


31 posted on 12/26/2004 8:05:45 AM PST by xp38
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To: Tunehead54

Buffalo, Jacksonville, the Ravens, and Denver are all currently vying for the final playoff spot in the AFC (assuming the Jets win one of their final two games, they have the fifth spot). Denver won last night to go to 9 - 6. Ravens, Bills and Jags are all 8 - 6 this morning. I just don't think 9- 7 will get them in (and that's assuming the Ravens beat Miami next week). Today:

Jags vs Houston
Buffalo vs San Fran
Ravens vs Pitt
NY Jets vs Pats


32 posted on 12/26/2004 8:06:11 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: E Rocc

Oh man, not that rumor again!


33 posted on 12/26/2004 8:08:41 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: beyond the sea

Hubby and our 13 year old daughter are at the game. We were fortunate to find tickets...it was her favorite Christmas gift!


34 posted on 12/26/2004 8:09:22 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Keith Olberman's image, the word a$$hole should come up!)
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To: discostu; airborne
This is one of the games I've been fearing since we beat the Pats and got the tie-breaker for home field.

I still am worried about this game, but I'm glad to see that the long range forecast for Buffalo is decent weather for next week.

I just hope Burress does not hurt anything worse today as he tries to play a little, and I pray that 'The Bus' stays as healthy as he is. I am astounded by the way he's running!

35 posted on 12/26/2004 8:09:56 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
I hope they enjoy it! What a nice gift!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

36 posted on 12/26/2004 8:10:56 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: beyond the sea

the kid's looked more ordinary as of late, but keeping it in context, his poise at that age is really something. new england's slip-up in Miami sets the table for the Steelers, and a potential rematch with those Pats in Pittsburgh.


37 posted on 12/26/2004 8:11:08 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (http://www.homestarrunner.com/xmas04.html)
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To: Petronski
a win today not only gets Pittsburgh the bye, but also guarantees home field advantage throughout.

Maybe what he was trying to say was that we need not win this week in order to have all the homefield advantage. A win next week can do the same thing.

I say .... let's get it over with in the next few hours!

38 posted on 12/26/2004 8:12:12 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea
Here's where I go for my Steelers info -

www.mcmillenandwife.com

39 posted on 12/26/2004 8:12:41 AM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: fhayek
Yes, one more time. Win today, lose next week, help Buffalo get into the playoffs : ^ ---

LOL!

40 posted on 12/26/2004 8:12:51 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: xp38

Quite a shocker eh? Brady saves his worst game of the year - maybe as a pro period - for a game against a 2-and-eleven team that should have been a laugher. One of the things I have really admired about the Pats over the last several years is that they never lost to teams they were supposed to beat, i.e. last weeks' Dolphins. This in stark contrast to teams like Minnesota, New Orleans, Denver, and even Indy to some extent. Will be interesting to see how they rebound against NY today.


41 posted on 12/26/2004 8:12:52 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
And in the voice of Myron Cope "What's going on down there???"

Hmmm-Haaa!!! Yoi........... I'll be at the Cope-acabanna after the game for some totties and some conversation!

42 posted on 12/26/2004 8:14:46 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: airborne

It's a 1:00 p.m. game.


43 posted on 12/26/2004 8:15:27 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: E Rocc
... the Steelers, Ratbirds, and Yankees are evil).

Hey, go find a Browns thread to ruin, if there is any!!!!!!sorry Browns

44 posted on 12/26/2004 8:16:19 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Keith Olberman's image, the word a$$hole should come up!)
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To: Rummyfan
However, their season just went out with TO. Oh they'll beat the Rams and whomever they play next week, but the playoffs are another matter.

You gotta love McNabb's mother on those commercials handing out the food for the team....... and getting the Gatorade treatment in the end!

That is BEAUTIFUL.

45 posted on 12/26/2004 8:17:26 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea

ESPN: Reggie White, dead at 41 of massive coronary


46 posted on 12/26/2004 8:18:58 AM PST by Petronski (Don't ask me about my pneumonia...it's making me very cranky.)
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To: Petronski

Rest in Peace


47 posted on 12/26/2004 8:19:47 AM PST by Petronski (Don't ask me about my pneumonia...it's making me very cranky.)
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To: Petronski

Correction: He was 43 years old.


48 posted on 12/26/2004 8:21:03 AM PST by Petronski (Don't ask me about my pneumonia...it's making me very cranky.)
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To: Petronski

Wow.


49 posted on 12/26/2004 8:24:21 AM PST by fhayek
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To: Rummyfan

There are always so many factors to consider that affect the outcome of a game. Its just the nature of sports. Homefield is at least somewhat of known factor. Throughout sports roughly 60% of games are won by the home team. But that means 40% are won by visitors. Beyond that what else is there to consider. Past performance? Weather for outdoor stadiums? Talent? That's kind of a variable. How about how each player spent Christmas? What if some important player had a huge blowup with family yesterday? Maybe Brady was having trouble buying gifts and that threw him off last Monday...hehe.


50 posted on 12/26/2004 8:24:44 AM PST by xp38
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