Notice that the driver isn't steering?
That's because it's on Auto-Trac,(auoto-pilot) with GPS!
Posted on 12/26/2004 1:20:04 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
In Arizona, 3 emergency rooms closed due to illegal aliens.
Not "some", but 3. That's 3 too many due to illegal immigration.
Folks like "TheDon" only believe in polls that support there views. All other polls are irrelevant.
"All other polls are irrelevant."
I'll modify that to say that all polls on this subject are irrelevant. It takes little effort to answer questions in a poll. It takes a little more effort to write your representative and express your concerns. So, if someone says they're concerned about illegal immigrants in a poll but doesn't follow it up by contacting their representative... how concerned are they? Apathy should be at the top of the list of our country's problems.
This is the bleeding heart liberal line of reasoning that I find objectionable from the liberals and conservatives.
If even ONE person is homelss in America it's one too many. If even ONE child goes hungry in America it's one too many. If even ONE black person is discriminated against in America it's one too many. If even ONE person is (fill in the blank) in America it's one too many.
I hate this line of reasoning.
They are breaking our laws just by being within our borders. WHY should our govt aid and abet their lawbreaking by turning a blind eye to employers willing to pay them wages under the table, by providing them with FREE medical treatment, by providing them with FREE govt assistance, by providing them with FREE interpreters when they get caught breaking a law, BY ALLOWING THEM LEGALITY?
These ILLEGAL immigrants deserve NOTHING from the USA.
They are a drain on the resources of the USA that cannot be allowed to continue
If the source country really understood economic issues, they (Mexico, particularly) would fix the problems driving their people to us. If they lowered marginal tax rates and privatized such industries as oil (including the ownership of mineral rights), these people would become an asset making their own economies grow, rather than just hungry mouths to feed. Actually, I think these people will get here and get on the bottom rung of the upwardly-mobile ladder.
It wouldn't be difficult to find Americans to drive tractors like that --- and efficiency with modern machines is the real reason we're putting Mexican farms --- with all their cheap cheap cheap labor out of business.
I am not arguing that we should adopt the president's plan because the Mexican government wants it. I support the plan because it serves U.S. interests. Those are the points I outlined, and those points are why I have been convinced.
It's kind of ironic though --- supposedly Americans can't compete --- but even with paying illegals $3.00 to $4.00 an hour to do farm work in the USA --- it's more than 10 times what they pay them in Mexico. If cheap labor were really the answer --- Mexican farms should be creaming us --- but it's them going bankrupt. It's machines that make us efficient --- not low-paid labor which requires large amounts of social services.
My point was (#88) that we cannot depend upon scores of immigrant workers paying taxes and thus saving our elderly butts (OASDI).
I sincerely believe that migrant labor will come under the control of a GATT-like or WTO-like entity. Columbia professor Jagdish Bhagwati campaigns for a World Migration Organization (WMO).
Why would the source country supply hordes of their "citizens beyond borders" for free? They won't. They will demand something, that something could be the tax on their citizens' wages. We get the benefit of "cheap" labor.
RE: If the source country really understood economic issues, they (Mexico, particularly) would fix the problems driving their people to us.
One of the thing that's driving the people across the border is Mexicorruption's policy of Mexican Diaspora. I think it was first offered by Zedillo. The current crook in charge has a cabinet post for governing nonresident Mexicans, Mexicorruption's "citizens beyond borders." Remittances especially "group" remittances are a form of taxing wages.
More and more countries are joining Mexico (and India) in this economic diaspora game.
By all accounts Mexcio could be an economic jewel with the resources of its peoples and natural wealth were it not for the corrupt government. I agree.
It doesn't serve US interests when it doesn't specify who will be paying for all this. Who for example provides the free health care and education for people coming into the country who have no insurance plan of their own? Their employers haven't been providing them insurance --- the taxpayers must. Who pays for the education costs of the families they bring in? It costs about $10,000 and more a year per child just for free schooling --- if one guest worker brings in 5 or 6 kids --- that's $50,000 to $60,000 a year for the taxpayers --- just so someone can have a $5,000 to $10,000 a year lawn mower?
This is kind of an interesting article:
Guest-worker plan is needed, but not under pressure
When it comes to the United States working out some kind of immigration/guest-worker program with Mexico, there's a certain sense of urgency on each side to see this accomplished.
But Mexico might be showing a bit too much urgency...
But President Vicente Fox and other officials need to exercise some care when trying to pressure and influence U.S. officials and public sentiment about an immigration program.
The Dallas Morning News recently reported that Mexican government officials are planning to lobby in the United States at several levels on behalf of the undocumented workers.
A little attention is needed here because this is a domestic issue, and the Mexican government must exercise caution.
For one thing, what would happen if the United States tried to intervene in what Mexico considered an internal matter? As has happened before, Mexico would cry "sovereignty infringement."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308667/posts
What are the source countries going to do? Keep them there? Put up walls? Use border guards with automatic weapons? No, the only way they can keep them is through cleaning up their own economic/political act. Otherwise, we get the people who come free of charge. We have no reason to knuckle under to a demand for taxes from another country, expecially when we are getting more immigrants than we want for free.
I don't know that the govt. turns a blind eye or not, but if the govt. is turning a blind eye, it is because the crime committed is not armed robbery, rape, murder, etc, but working without a permit. People (citizens and illegals) should be responsible for their own medical bills which many people (citizens and illegals) are billed but can not or do not pay.
Thanks for your visual.
I e-mailed the Pres about all this a few minutes ago. president@whitehouse.gov. All FReepers could swamp this website with questions like: Come on, Mr. President, what are your real reasons for leaving the borders wide open, costing American citizens hundreds of thousands of dollars? We never needed illegals to do our work before.
Why now, Mr. President? ....and you know, things like that.
We can bellyache among ourselves 'til doomsday, but to avoid doomsday it juwst may be time to confront our hallowed leader.
It can't hurt to be vocal...
-squeaky wheels get the grease!
Regards
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