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Toy Guns Pulled From Costume Shop Shelves
Million Mom March (united with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence) ^ | 12/23/2004 | Million Mom March (from New York Times)

Posted on 12/28/2004 3:37:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Toy Guns Pulled From Costume Shop Shelves
Thousands of toy guns that were for sale in costume and novelty shops in New York state have been removed as part of a settlement between the state attorney general's office and two national wholesalers, the New York Times reported Dec. 20.

Attorney General Eliot Spitzer had accused the wholesalers of distributing 12,000 toy guns in 2001 in violation of a state law which previously had applied only to retailers. New York State bans the sale of toy guns in stores unless they have a permanent orange stripe running down both sides of the barrel.

Without admitting wrongdoing, Rubie's Costumes Co. agreed to pay $27,000 in civil penalties and costs and Franco American Novelty Co. agreed to pay $10,000.

Spitzer said that toy guns pose a public danger because police sometimes mistake them for the real thing. In 1997, he said, four people were killed and a child was seriously injured when police thought toy guns were real ones.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; children; communistsubversion; deaths; donutwatch; eliotspitzer; govwatch; guns; mmm; newyork; police; regulations; settlement; toyguns; tyranny; weasellist
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Now, come on! How ridiculous are things going to get in New York? Will orange-striped barrels really prevent kids from being shot by police? What about simply urging parents to teach their little brats not to point toy guns at the police?
1 posted on 12/28/2004 3:37:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That'll stop the rise in toy crimes!!!

Imaginary bullets kill more imaginary people than any other known cause.


2 posted on 12/28/2004 3:39:10 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; aristeides; Askel5; basil; bayliving; ..

This is un-REAL PING!


3 posted on 12/28/2004 3:39:24 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Only an idiot would give their kid a toy gun.

Buy them a real one instead.

4 posted on 12/28/2004 3:39:41 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Just get your toy guns from here.
5 posted on 12/28/2004 3:40:10 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Stupid grandma leaver-outers!"--Tom Servo)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The real problem is how will the NY legislature mandate not an orange stripe down the barrel of every toy gun, but a yellow stripe down the back of every New Yorker.


6 posted on 12/28/2004 3:40:28 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Arrrggghhhh....keep posting these MMM articles of lies and I am going to have a stroke!

These people are out of control.


7 posted on 12/28/2004 3:41:17 PM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: PeterFinn

LOL!!

Million March Moms against gun violence? Sounds like the loony left to me.


8 posted on 12/28/2004 3:43:04 PM PST by stopem
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Now, some enterprising hit man (or hit woman) will buy some orange tape and run it down the sides of his/her gun barrel, so their victim will only believe it to be a toy gun....until it is too late!

The point is: They are a bunch of damned liars at the Brady Center (aka Handgun Control) and the Million Moron March is just a bunch of their lackeys.


9 posted on 12/28/2004 3:45:18 PM PST by punster
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Toy guns are hard to find. I've got three boys who love to play Army, and we're constantly on the hunt for toy guns. Besides, they're all plastic and break within minutes of getting them out of the packaging.


10 posted on 12/28/2004 3:47:43 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: All
Off Topic:

Just caught Adam Sandler playing ( guitar) "werewolf of london" on David Letterman. And guess what...he's good!

(Back to our normal program)

Ps sorry Tolerance Sucks Rocks

11 posted on 12/28/2004 3:49:18 PM PST by Critical Bill
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To: AdamSelene235
Only an idiot would give their kid a toy gun.

Buy them a real one instead.

Works for me.

12 posted on 12/28/2004 3:49:32 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"What about simply urging parents to teach their little brats not to point toy guns at the police?"

That would mean individual responsibility. Something liberals either are unable to do or detest as it is much easier to blame society.


13 posted on 12/28/2004 3:49:42 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Without admitting wrongdoing, Rubie's Costumes Co. agreed to pay $27,000 in civil penalties and costs and Franco American Novelty Co. agreed to pay $10,000.

Looks like someone's probably going to lose their job, but it's a small price to pay to keep those dangerously unstriped toy guns off the street.... /sarcasm
14 posted on 12/28/2004 3:52:44 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If toys are outlawed, only outlaws will have toys. From my cold, dead hands, toy grabbers!


15 posted on 12/28/2004 3:58:00 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They can have my lone ranger cap gun when they pry it from my cold dead hand.


16 posted on 12/28/2004 3:58:11 PM PST by Shellback Chuck (Hey John, whose your daddy?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"ill orange-striped barrels really prevent kids from being shot by police? "

That just tells you how out of control and incompetent cops have become.


17 posted on 12/28/2004 3:59:08 PM PST by shellshocked
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To: shellshocked

That's dumb...


18 posted on 12/28/2004 4:02:27 PM PST by The Teen Conservative
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Aggravated Possession of Toy Firearm: Felony

Possess while smoking in public.

Possess while wearing "cowboy" or "gangster" apparel.

Uttering "bang, bang" while feigning recoil.

19 posted on 12/28/2004 4:02:38 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
In 1997, he said, four people were killed and a child was seriously injured when police thought toy guns were real ones.

IIRC weren't a few of these unfortunate folks trying to commit crimes with their toy guns?

20 posted on 12/28/2004 4:05:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: shellshocked

HEY! It ain't da cops who're jamming the legislature with this crap! ['cept, mebbe, a couple change-agent, diploma-mill-educated doofusses with captain's rank, or higher]


21 posted on 12/28/2004 4:06:59 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Future Snake Eater
Just get your toy guns from here.

I've seen those and with a little bit of black spray paint they are quite convincing.

Cool! Just don't point them at a cop (or a CCW permit holder, armed homeowner, dude with an axe, etc...)

22 posted on 12/28/2004 4:09:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Will orange-striped barrels really prevent kids from being shot by police?

Of course not,but it just feeeeeels good.Like everything w/liberals, it's all smoke & mirrors.

23 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:18 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Drew68

They are great for playing "Army" around the house with some friends though! I know I would've loved 'em as a kid!


24 posted on 12/28/2004 4:26:09 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Stupid grandma leaver-outers!"--Tom Servo)
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To: shellshocked
BTW....until you have had a toy gun pointed at you in the course of a "gun complaint", you should refrain, I think, from throwing stones at incompetent cops. How 'bout stupid kids with toy guns? I came somewhat close to smokin' a 15 year-old who refused to drop what appeared to be a fully-functional 45ACP. The little bugger pointed it right at me while telling me it was a toy.

And that was 15 years ago. Today, I might not be so hesitant: I keep finding real ones in the booty-cracks of juvenile arrestees in my booking room. Sobering!

25 posted on 12/28/2004 4:29:31 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
What about simply urging parents to teach their little brats not to point toy guns at the police?

Thats a silly comment. You don't have to point a toy gun at a cop to have him/her shoot you.

Does any one remember the incident on haloween about 3 or 4 years ago in California?

Here is what I remember. Police were called about a loud party on haloween. Two young cops arrive and decide to walk around the back of the house. Rookie female afirmative action hire peers through a window and sees a man with a gun in a room full of people and blows him away.

It turns out that the poor guy (now dead) was a black bit part actor on a network series.

I never did hear what happened to the trigger happy rookie female cop, or the outcome of the law suit that was sure to follow and rightfully should have.

Toy guns can kill.

26 posted on 12/28/2004 4:41:51 PM PST by metalurgist (Death to the democrats!)
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To: metalurgist

Hope she lost her job, at the very least.


27 posted on 12/28/2004 4:50:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

wow - their imaginary friends must be breathing sighs of relief at being safe now from toy-gun violence.


28 posted on 12/28/2004 5:01:21 PM PST by King Prout (When your dog licks you he is kissing you. When your cat licks you he is tasting you.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"In 1997, he said, four people were killed and a child was seriously injured when police thought toy guns were real ones"


Brings to mind a cop juiced up on donuts and coffee grabbing at his shirt pocket saying "OMG where's my bullet, where's my bullet"


29 posted on 12/28/2004 5:39:53 PM PST by Figment (Ich bin ein Jesuslander)
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To: metalurgist

"Toy guns can kill."

You've fallen into the trap!
Toy guns, SUV's, and real guns don't kill.
Killing is an act of aggression, or a mistake. Neither of which can be made by an inanimate object.
Unqualified, over reactive female cops can kill.


30 posted on 12/28/2004 5:45:44 PM PST by Fireone (Homeland security is 10,000 rounds of ammo and 10 cords of dry firewood.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

NYC and liberals....


31 posted on 12/28/2004 5:46:35 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Spitzer said that toy guns pose a public danger because police sometimes mistake them for the real thing.

Where's the Springsteen song about that?

41 What?

32 posted on 12/28/2004 5:47:47 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Fireone
You've fallen into the trap!

No I haven't, but to assuage you, how about this "Toy guns can cause you to be killed".

33 posted on 12/28/2004 6:10:27 PM PST by metalurgist (Death to the democrats!)
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To: The Teen Conservative

"hat's dumb..."

Really? Cops no longer have self control as to not shoot kids with toy guns? They used to.


34 posted on 12/28/2004 6:19:57 PM PST by shellshocked
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To: dasboot

"It ain't da cops who're jamming the legislature with this crap! "

No, but I bet you will find cops push the legislature for it.


35 posted on 12/28/2004 6:20:45 PM PST by shellshocked
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To: metalurgist

"how about this "Toy guns can cause you to be killed"."

How about, "Dumb, incompetent, trigger-happy, out-of-control cops can cause you to be killed, toy gun or not."


36 posted on 12/28/2004 6:26:23 PM PST by shellshocked
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They have GOT to be kidding!


37 posted on 12/28/2004 6:31:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is that a TOY! I thought I banned toys, I HATE TOYS!!! LOL
38 posted on 12/28/2004 6:43:21 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: shellshocked
How about, "Dumb, incompetent, trigger-happy, out-of-control cops can cause you to be killed, toy gun or not."

And you need to remember this if you ever feel like clowning around with a toy gun. You also need to remember that a lot of people carry concealed now too and may mistake your toy 45 to be real and ventilate you also.

I don't see a problem with making toy guns look like toy guns.

39 posted on 12/28/2004 6:58:00 PM PST by metalurgist (Death to the democrats!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
In 1997, he said, four people were killed and a child was seriously injured when police thought toy guns were real ones.

The same year, fourteen patrol officers were treated and released for dental injuries from eating wax fruit from store displays.

40 posted on 12/28/2004 7:03:15 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: PeterFinn

Easy, just have them stand on their heads.


41 posted on 12/28/2004 7:04:09 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: dasboot

Boy, you're brave; it takes a real man to admit he is incompetent.


42 posted on 12/28/2004 7:06:28 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: metalurgist

Worse.


43 posted on 12/28/2004 7:09:07 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: metalurgist

44 posted on 12/28/2004 7:11:15 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: Critical Bill
Just caught Adam Sandler playing ( guitar) "werewolf of london" on David Letterman. And guess what...he's good!

Was his hair perfect?

45 posted on 12/28/2004 7:29:11 PM PST by Sloth (Al Franken is a racist.)
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To: Sloth
Was his hair perfect?

Now that you mention it..yeah. I have never noticed before. He was GOOFBALL ( unintentional) being interviewed. He had trouble keeping up with Letterman.

46 posted on 12/28/2004 7:44:55 PM PST by Critical Bill
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
toy guns pose a public danger because police sometimes mistake them for the real thing

And we're supposed to ONLY trust the police with guns. Maybe we should give them toys as well. That way nobody gets hurt.

47 posted on 12/28/2004 7:45:35 PM PST by P8riot (A gun is just a substitute for a penis, so when attacked by a mugger one should pull out a..........)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Spitzer said that toy guns pose a public danger because police sometimes mistake them for the real thing.

Maybe New York needs to find REAL police. What a bunch of idiots!


48 posted on 12/28/2004 7:48:06 PM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The only news here is that Spitzer hates guns. (Oops... that's not news either... oh well).


49 posted on 12/28/2004 8:27:44 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: unixfox

Never, ever insult the NYPD.


50 posted on 12/28/2004 8:29:56 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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