Posted on 12/28/2004 3:52:03 PM PST by pissant
Added to that, there are plenty of conservative values in American movies and TV. Look at stuff like 'King of the Hill', The Simpsons, Touched by An Angel. There should be more of course but through the normal means not cultural warefare rhetoric...if you don't like the movies being made go to film school.
No, I think the die hard liberal will never change. It's like a religon to them. Some in Hollywood may change a little when it's the only way they can make money. By the way, strange name "pissant"? I'm an exterminator but I won't hold your name against you.
"And what do you mean heretic?"
Just my pet name for someone I once thought of as a manly man who turned out to be just another metrosexual.
How about a real adaptation of Starship Troopers?
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I have never read the book, because of the movie. Was it really that different or better? Just curious.
Metrosexualism is just another way to get girls!
Movies that have a conservative or traditional bent ususally do so in a more secondary, or even unintended manner; whereas many movies have overt, intentional liberal messages. I don't expect that to change very much.
There is of course The Passion of the Christ, but it not a politically conservative movie. Movies like Braveheart, Forrest Gump, The Incredibles, and Lord of the Rings all can be considered to have very strong conservative/traditional themes and messages, but they don't preach and they are not in-your-face. And some of the filmmakers would probably be horrified to learn that conservatives celebrate them.
Movies like The Contender, The American President, etc and television shows like West Wing all have distinct political messages that they ram down the viewer's throat. Then you'll have shows like Law & Order do an episode where the writers obviously decided to take liberal plank, and contruct a story around it, as they recently did with gay marriage.
Then of course you have leftwing versions of movies like Braveheart or Lord of the Rings that have more subtle liberal messages.
Then there is a third manner in which Hollywood puts forth liberal messages: through out-of-the-blue asides uttered by characters that have nothing to do with the story. Law & Order does this quite often too. As does CSI; I remember an exchange on one episode where a gun was found in a family's yard. The homeowner was asked if they owned any guns. Instead of having the character simply say a politically neutral "no", the writers had to have them say the more politically tinged, "no, we don't believe in guns", as if they are a religion or something. The difference is obvious, and no doubt intentional. Now it is true that over the yrs Law & Order has had conservative characters who have gotten their share of soundbites, but generally speaking they are given weaker lines and less of them.
My point is that I expect the situation to follow: Conservatives messages will be secondary and even accidental in all but the rarest exceptions, while liberal messages will continue to be put forth in all manners -- as the main point, secondarily, and injected as pointless and cheap one-liners.
All that is ever lacking are the people willing to put their money where their mind is. There is right-wing talent out there, and good stories to tell, but not the type of financing to get the scripts into production, completion and then distribution.
If I had a buck for every complaint I hear about left-wing media bias, there would be 100 movies a year pushing our viewpoint.
It could be changed only if there is a willingness to take on the opportunties/risks involved in independent film production. There is a ready audience and an alternative distribution network out there to be tapped.
"Metrosexualism is just another way to get girls!"
Liberal "men", and I use that term loosely, getting liberal women. I think all good conservative women prefer the John Wayne/Mel Gibson model over the Alan Alda/Earing wearing Heretic Ford model.
Maggie makes a good point about the missing movies and books about the thousand of heroes in Iraq right now, and their loved ones here in the States, and the true drama they are living. God bless our troupes, they have taken the battle to Iraq instead of fighting on the streets of New York or your town.
Marry Christmas and Happy New Year.
From Hollywood's Golden Age up until the 1970's Hollywood was actually a fairly conservative place. It wasn't until they all decided to become artsy-fartsy types in the mid and late Seventies that Hollywood's heavywieghts became banal and boring. But I do believe that the conservatives' day is coming again as once-rebellious baby boomers enter their retirement years. This will be a huge potential audience with money to spend as they try to reconnect with their childhood values.
Money talks....when it really hits them there pocket books...the liberal hollyweirdo loons will have NO choice!!! Change is a comein' I can smell it in the air. ;o)
The 80s were just about the least artsy-fartsiest time for American movies in history. The 'countercultural' period was roughly from the mid 60s till the late 70s. And it did produce a lot of great movies (Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, Bonnie and Clyde, The Godfather, Taxi Driver)
I agree. Imagine the impact if the film/television industry was challenged artistically by the Right.
I'm tired of half-assed documentaries by the well-meaning. The market demands provacative, engaging films.
Read the book. Its written purposely on a juvineille level but it emphasises duty, honor and sacrifice.
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