Skip to comments.Morris: How Hillary Becomes President in '08
Posted on 12/29/2004 6:40:54 AM PST by seppel
Longtime presidential strategist Dick Morris had words of caution yesterday for those who say Hillary Clinton can't generate the kind of national support she needs to put herself back in White House in 2008.
Not only will Sen. Clinton win her party's nomination in a walk, the former Clinton adviser contends, her chances of beating the GOP four years from now are "superb."
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Hillary might want to run for New York's Governor in 2006 to gain some state executive experience and then run for President in 2008. If Pataki retires, I think the state mansion in Albany is hers. And Eliot Spitzer can be persuaded to switch and run for her seat in the Senate, which he will win.
Full of himself and trying to maintain his importance. He goes with the wind and tries to guess for the most part. Typical poll following liberal.
actually Hitlery is already trying to be manipulative and make herself look more conservative then she really is. She's already started playing the game.
I think it will be very hard for her to win in 2008. We just saw how this country turned out for Bush mostly for moral beliefs. If she doesnt turn against abortion and homosexual unions, then I think she has no chance.
Seems to me he predicted that sKerry would win in '04. 'Nuf said...
let's not beat around the Bush here, George W. Bush, despite the 3 million vote advantage was beatable this year, if just under 60k Ohioan votes had gone sKerry's way he would've been president. That is a scary thought if there ever was one. There is no doubt that many women admire Hillary, for some reason or another. Not because they like her politics but because she is... Hillary.
But don't underestimate the opposition to her either, she starts out with a negative 40% that will never in a gazillion years vote for her. So she will need a lopsided advantage amongst undecideds. Hillary will run and the DNC might just as well dispense with primaries the Hildabeast will simply not allow opposition. Run against her at your own peril. But with dr. Rice up against her, that's where I say: landslide! And it ain't going Hitlary's way.
She could run as a Republican. I wouldn't put anything past that woman.
Get ready for the Pissed Off Bimbos For Truth and their remarkable TV ads.
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The naysayers who think Hillary won't be formidable in '08 are fooling themselves. She has spent the last 4 years remaking her image, and she will continue to do so.
Pubbies need to be grooming a superstar now to face her. Otherwise, she will be electable in '08. If you thought the msm covered over Kerry's errs and ills, just wait until you see them remake Hillary into St. Hillary of Ark.
Only if the republicans nominate some worthless rino like Romney or Powell or McLunatic, or a host of others.
A real conservative will annihilate her heinous.
Except that would only give her 2 years of gubernatorial experience before running. It just wouldn't be viable, and she can't wait until '12 because another Dem could most likely take the WH in '08.
Dick Morris is on record as saying the only person he thinks can beat Hillary is Condie Rice. Either way, we would get our first woman President.
what an clymer
If Republicans ran McCain I would just stay home.
Even 2 years of executive experience on her resume would be helpful. Every President elected in the last century has been a former Governor. She would be well positioned to take advantage of the prominence that goes with the role to make her imprint on New York State and then run for President. The party would certainly get behind a successful Big State Governor.
Dick Morris, though i like the man.. Has his face seriously planted up Hillary's Butt... This guy, whatever chance he gets talks about her.
I think he has some secret fetish or something.
I think Dick hasn't tabulated all those that would "drop off" too.
We must remember that Bill never got a majority of the vote and only one due to third party politics, else he never would have been president. Hillary's success is directly hinged to that of Bill. So many people are sick and tired of even hearing about Bill and many former supporters have such enormous hangovers that I don't think they could bring themselves to go vote.
I think that the turnout for the dims with Hillary in there would drop substantially.
It would be a disasterous mistake for the reps not to take Hillary seriously and run an ideologue.
You mean cause she's black? If we're not ready for a minority President by then, we'll never be ready for one.
Hillary should not be underestimated. The Republicans biggest problem with respect to the Clintons has always been that we have underestimated their strengths because we have been blinded by our own dislike of them.
There can be no doubt that this dislike is well founded. However, the best way to defeat a foe is to understand him (or, in this case...her).
We must understand and appreciate that she has an ability to reach out beyond the liberal base. She is a Methodist...and will do a better job than Kerry in talking about faith.
Further, she has positioned herself as a hawk on military and national defense issues.
There are a whole host of issues relating to the Clinton years that will be revisited. However, I am not certain that these issues will have much impact.
Realistically, her greatest weaknesses are those weaknesses afflicting the Democrats as a party -- values, Hollywood, Red v. Blue, etc.
However, I fully predict that she will have her own Sister Solijah moment (taking from her husband's playbook) in which she denounces the excesses of the Hollywood left. While some in Hollywood might scoff at this...chances are that they will play along with the game.
I'm well aware of the exceptions like Truman and JFK. Generally speaking though, voters want someone with executive management experience. A Senator by temperament and personality, doesn't hwve what it takes to be President. McCain is surely aware of this and he might want to run against Janet Napolitano in 2006. He would win her seat.
Right. I think Hillary's best chance to win in '08 is with a credible third-party candidate splitting the Republican vote. That could happen with McCain or Rudy G getting the nomination....because a social conservative candidate will likely run and split the Republican vote, leading to a Hillary win.
I can't stand a guy who will lick a toe then stick it in the air to see which way the (political) wind is blowing.
I agree with Morris' conclusion, not his logic. He says:
"Rice is the only person who can stop Hillary Clinton from being president."
That has got to be the most absurd comment of the year. Rice is not going to be a factor in the race at all.
On the other hand, I think Hillary can win, and unlike Morris, I have a plausible reason why. It's because she has to do only one thing differently from Gore and Kerry: She's gotta win Florida.
And that is doable, if she demogogues social security and medicare. She's also got to win Kerry's Blue States, but that is also very doable. She's a shoo-in in all the states that Kerry won except Oregon, Minn., Wis., and perhaps Michigan, but even those states are not tough states for her. The GOP has no one on the horizon who could easily defeat her in any of those Blue States, with the possible exception of Guiliani, and as Morris says, Guiliani won't get the GOP nomination.
The people don't know enough about Rice yet.
I don't either.
She will need some greater exposure.
Condi would not be viable "in very large" BLUE "areas of this country." She's and Auntie Toni.....
Hillary has already begun positioning herself to the right of Bush on illegal immigration. That puts the Southwest seriously in play. No, I'd says she carries it easy.
IMHOP, what gives the Democrats a strong advantage in 2008 is their having learnt their lesson. NAFTA and free trade were tickets to nowhere. The crowning legislative victory of Clinton's first term cost him the House and the Senate because it betrayed the Democratic blue collar voter, who since votes GOP on cultural values and patriotism. The only weapon the Democrats have against "moral values" is being the party that looks out for Joe Sixpack and letting the investment bankers define Kerry's limp positions on NAFTA, outsourcing, and free trade cost him the election (I think Gephardt could have beaten Bush.).
Nor sure I agree with that.
As well, many of those that Morris says would back Hitlery are already in blue states.
I agree with your analysis.
I like Dick Morris's commentary. He was always on the money about the election. Everything he said Bush should do, Bush did.
I think the first debate was lost simply because of the camera comparisons, showing Bush smaller than Kerry. What they had to say meant nothing.
In the following debates Bush looked more formidable.
There will be an even bigger backlash against Hillary, but I agree with him when he says she will be moving to the middle with National Security issues and make us believe that she is as moderately republican as Guliani.
I haven't been up on this, but if true, then for it to be a factor, she had better begin sponsoring some legislation to back her rhetoric.
IMO peoples' analysis of this are once again forgetting the new media.
haha nice pic
Morris has been incorrect about a good many things as well. I like him generally speaking, but he's far from perfect in prognosticating politics.
He thought that way ahead of time and subsequently said that she *wouldn't* run. And listed reasons why.
Despite the fact that I think that Dick Morris is an amoral toad, his skills as a political analyst are exceptional.
His post, in this case, misses the fact that Hillary's high negatives are fixed in stone and that she would energize the opposition ten times as much as Kerry/Edwards did.
He agrees with me in placing a Condi Rice run for the Presidency in 2008 in the "Hillary Clinton's Recurring Nightmare" box.
I'd love to see that happen.
She's black, genuinely brilliant [as opposed to HC's sycophantic-media-designated-faux-super-intellectual status] and doesn't take crap from ANYONE.
I don't see it. Four years of old FDR geezers passing away erodes the DIMS voter base more and more...thank God.
You are probably correct in everything you say, but unfortunately, what you say doesn't address the argument he made. Three things auger well for her and terribly for the Republic:
(1)She is running to the right on enough issues (morality, being "born again", immigration), early enough, to make the gullible believe by the primaries;
(2) Look at the potential candidates for the Republicans--not a one to get the base excited; and,
(3) Agree or not, like it or not, Bush's second term will be not defined by the war on terror, but by his terrible stance on immigration and the "compassionate" portion of compassionate conservatism. Morale of conservatives will be dead by 2007.
I hope you're right, but I am certain that she is going after Florida big time, and a little demogoguery will go a long way down here.
If she can hold onto Kerry's Blue States and win Fla., she's in.
Absolutely. The gullibility of the voting public makes me wonder if what we have of the Republic is WORTH saving. (Forgive me--I get cynical at times).
That would make Dick Morris the Michael Moore of conservatives.
And add at least one Southwest state by being an illegal immigration hawk.
And a lot of people fondly rememner 1995-1999.
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