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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO JANUARY 2005 Dailies: News Digest, Restating the Obvious & Thank Yous...
Free Republic & Various Sources ^ | December 30, 2004 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 12/29/2004 7:16:22 AM PST by floriduh voter

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To: floriduh voter; phenn; tutstar

Author and advocate of Terri's right to life, Wesley Smith, spoke about Terri's case on last night's edition of Coast to Coast with George Noory. Mr. Smith spoke very frankly about Michael Schiavo's treatment towards Terri.

You can listen to the interview by clicking on this link http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/12/ and scroll down to the title Wednesday Dec 29 "Cloning and Stem Cell Research."


101 posted on 12/30/2004 8:01:44 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary; Ohioan from Florida; Chocolate Rose; AnimalLover; CindyDawg; Pegita; PrepareToLeave; ...
Appeals Court Rejects Terri Schiavo's Parents' Religious Liberties Arguments -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1310543/posts

LifeNews.com | December 29, 2004 | Steven Ertelt

Clearwater, FL (LifeNews.com) -- In a decision released Wednesday with no written opinion, Florida's Second District Court of Appeal denied an appeal filed by the parents of disabled woman Terri Schiavo saying that starving her to death would be a violation of her religious liberties.

Bob and Mary Schindler argue that euthanizing Terri would abrogate her First Amendment religious rights. As a Catholic, Terri likely would agree with the church's position against euthanasia.

The Schindlers pointed to recent comments against euthanasia and assisted suicide by Pope John Paul II. The pontiff has said that removing the feeding tube form a disabled patient like Terri constitutes "euthanasia by omission." The appeals court's decision upholds a ruling by Circuit Court Judge George Greer in October also denying the religious liberties arguments.

Terri's estranged husband Michael praised the appeal courts decision in a press release from George Felos, the euthanasia advocate who is his lead attorney.

Michael called it a "prompt and definitive denial of the Schindlers' frivolous claim."

Them's fightin' words. Terri's fight press release: Florida Court of Appeals Rules in Terri's Case Without a Hearing -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310520/posts

Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation ^ | 12/29/04 | Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation

Attorneys for Robert and Mary Schindler, parents of Theresa Schiavo, are disappointed with today’s one-line order from Florida’s Second District Court of Appeal. The order, issued without a written opinion, dismissed a motion filed by Terri Schiavo’s parents asking the court to consider a recent Papal Declaration. The court ignored the Schindler family attorney’s request for oral arguments to address these important new issues.

The Schindler family is appalled that the 2nd DCA would treat such an important matter of religious freedom in such a cavalier fashion. They are strengthened in their resolve to continue to fight for the life of their daughter and intend to continue to exhaust every legal avenue available.

The Free Exercise of Religion, guaranteed to disabled patients by both the Florida Constitution and the Florida Religious Freedom Restoration Act is not being adequately protected by the Florida courts in this case.

The new Papal Declaration makes a clear statement of Catholic religious doctrine that “water and food, even when provided by artificial means, always represent a natural means of preserving life, not a medical act. Its use, furthermore, should be considered, in principle, ordinary and proportionate, and as such moral and obligatory.”

Attorney David Gibbs III, representing the Schindlers in their appeal, said, “We believe that the Papal Declaration, issued in March of 2004, is new evidence that as a matter of law should require a new hearing into what Terri’s wishes would be today, given her devout faith and her current inability to speak for herself. Although Terri is unable to speak, she is very alert and aware of her environment and interacts regularly with her parents through sounds, facial expressions, laughter, and other non verbal communication.

"Terri is not in a coma; nor does she require any other assistance to maintain her life beyond assisted feeding through a tube.”


102 posted on 12/30/2004 8:34:25 AM PST by cyn
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To: cyn
"Them's fightin' words. Terri's fight press release: . . ."

Supposed to be a new paragraph before the Terri's fight link.

"Them's fightin' words" refers to Michael's comment about this being a frivolous lawsuit, even though a person's life depends on it.

It has been noted many times before that we would not dare treat criminals or animals with this kind of contempt.

103 posted on 12/30/2004 8:39:19 AM PST by cyn
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To: Theodore R.
George Greer VIOLATED NUMEROUS JUDICIAL CANONS and campaign laws for judges but the Florida Election Commissions and the Judicial Qualifications Commission are protecting THEIR OWN.

We have a SHAM JUDICIAL SYSTEM HERE IN FLORIDA. Terri is exposing that but I don't think she should pay for that exposure with her life.

Greer's opponent, JAN GOVAN, followed all campaign laws for judges while Greer was cheating left and right. Govan went back to private practice but he was at Terri's Celebration of Life on December 12th.

When the CHEATING GOES THE ENTIRE CHAIN OF COMMAND, Terri is boxed in and stuck with Greer...stuck in a room while everyone waits to see if she will get ANOTHER DEATH SENTENCE HANDED DOWN simply because she eats differently than you and I.

104 posted on 12/30/2004 9:27:51 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: amdgmary; russesjunjee; Ohioan from Florida; cyn; All; sweetliberty; Concerned; Chocolate Rose; ...
EVERYONE, IF YOU LISTEN TO COAST TO COAST WITH GEORGE NOORY, some stations play the day before at 10:00 pm until 1:00 am.

FYI: GEORGE NOORY WILL BEGIN TONIGHT ON COAST TO COAST AT 10:00 pm est in the Tampa Bay Market.

I'll listen tonight at 10:00. FV

105 posted on 12/30/2004 9:31:04 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: KDubRN
Look at all the money all these HIT MEN pocket over their lifetime. The Judges' pensions equal their yearly salary. They've got their's so to heck with human life.

What's more self centered and egotistical than that??? At least Judge Rapkin of Carlie Brucia fame "retired" after a con on the loose murdered her. Rapkin is no saint but he retired.

The Sixth Circuit Judges think they are superior beings. THEIR NAMES ARE? W. Douglas Baird, hit man (Terri's Law), George Greer, hit man (Terri's guardianship) and David Demers (Chief Judge) dismissed Guardian Jay Wolfson after Wolfson recommended swallowing tests. HIT MEN MASQUERADING AS JUDGES. Shame on them. I have no time to call any of these bums "your honor".

106 posted on 12/30/2004 9:39:05 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: GoldenOrchid; cyn; Ohioan from Florida
I FOUND another web site that calls it MURDER. Good for them. Let's call it what it is.

http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/murder.html

107 posted on 12/30/2004 9:50:57 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Dante3

Check out "amdgmary"'s post re: George Noory, Coast to Coast radio. He talked about Terri early this morning.


108 posted on 12/30/2004 10:03:54 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: T'wit; tutstar
Check this out from Judge Greer's personal Courtroom Guidelines. Too bad he doesn't follow his own guardianship guidelines.

III. Guardianship

1. On the Petition for Appointment of Emergency Temporary Guardian, Judge Greer feels that it should be brought to the Court only in a circumstance of life, death or substantial waste of property.

FV SAYS: HELLO, JUDGE GREER, you caused your own number 1 to be in default, all of it.

109 posted on 12/30/2004 10:10:09 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Hitler would fit right in if he were alive today.

Visit www.hospicepatients.org for a discussion re: Hitler and some hospices.

Ron Panzer of the Hospice Patients Alliance is a good guy.

110 posted on 12/30/2004 10:14:46 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: GoldenOrchid
J. Greer said in the past "I don't want anyone feeding that girl."

I pray that Judge Greer has a change of heart and mind or some kind of revelation.

His actions are tearing apart our County. The Republican Party here can forget it. They support him. They only have his talking points which is very scary. They are not pro-life. They are puppets of this judge. I wish I knew why.

111 posted on 12/30/2004 10:20:32 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: JohnHuang2

Ping. Please bring your ping list over here if you have one. Thanks, FV


112 posted on 12/30/2004 10:25:07 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Lauren BaRecall; russesjunjee; JulieRNR21; tutstar; MonteMar; Dixielander; ...
PLEASE REGISTER AT WORLD NET DAILY so you can vote for Terri Schindler Schiavo as "cover up of the year". She's on their MAIN LIST TO CHOOSE FROM.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41609

Let's help World Net Daily expose the coverup!

113 posted on 12/30/2004 10:57:56 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
Terri Schiavo's Parents Will Ask Appeals Court to Rehear Case
114 posted on 12/30/2004 1:27:59 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FL_engineer; cyn; FR_addict; windchime; Budge; Deo volente; nicmarlo; Ohioan from Florida; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310543/posts?page=23#23


115 posted on 12/30/2004 1:40:31 PM PST by pc93
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To: floriduh voter; amdgmary
World Net Daily's message boards are not working properly. If anybody gets through, please let us know...

Their customer service number is 1-800-496-3266 and I think they're out west?

116 posted on 12/30/2004 2:03:30 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for posting the link to that article. Good for the Schindlers!


117 posted on 12/30/2004 2:04:49 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
One of the judges at the 2nd DCA is a Boy Scout Leader in Tampa and their MAJOR PROJECT EVERY YEAR is to STAMP OUT HUNGER.

How ironic does it get?

118 posted on 12/30/2004 3:52:20 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: floriduh voter

I haven't seen that movie in years, but doesn't it end with "Ave Maria?"


119 posted on 12/30/2004 3:54:47 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: pc93

I read your post on the other thread, and the posts following, and I don't understand what you're saying.

But I restate for the record that I respect you, and all your hard work on Terri's behalf, immensely.


120 posted on 12/30/2004 4:23:49 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: tutstar
Florida needs judicial reform and we need it now!!

Most of the country needs it. And too many of our fellow citizens are snoozing, or duped by the liberal pro-death media.

121 posted on 12/30/2004 4:27:27 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: floriduh voter

It won't let me register. After I put in my info, the next page won't load.


122 posted on 12/30/2004 4:47:45 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Blue state address, red state soul.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Apparently, based on the machinations of the gubernatorial vote steal this year, liberal WA State is another place in sore need of judicial reform. I don't think they will get the needed reforms any more than FL will.


123 posted on 12/30/2004 5:26:14 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Oh, no, it seems to me that Terri will not survive to Valentine's Day!


124 posted on 12/30/2004 6:59:01 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

Which brings me back to: Why do all these men, for the most part, WANT TO KILL AN INNOCENT WOMAN? What's in it for them? It is barbaric and nothing but blood lust.


I think it is raw judicial power and little else motivating George W. Greer, Demers, and Douglas Baird, all of whom are apparently "Republicans." This is the kind of raw power that Jefferson feared in 1801.


That too. This judicial actvism has to stop. And we are the ones who have to make it stop.


125 posted on 12/30/2004 9:09:15 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: Theodore R.

Also the fact that George W. Greer, Demers, and Douglas Baird are elected by wide margins by the FL electorate make them untouchable. FL people really have secular faith" in Geroge W. Greer, Baird, and Demers.

Strictly RINO's


126 posted on 12/30/2004 9:10:24 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Republic; cyn; sweetliberty; kimmie7
The WORLD NET DAILY "Spiked" news 9th place winner for 2003

9. The Terri Schindler-Schiavo case Unlike some of this year's most "spiked" stories, the dramatic case of Terri Schindler-Schiavo received massive media coverage – especially during the electrifying countdown to her planned death by court-ordered starvation, and the last-minute intervention by Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and the state's legislature.

So, why is this story included in WND's list of "spiked" stories? Because spiked also refers to reporting so biased or one-sided as to amount to "spiking" the truth of the matter. Thus, although major national media reported almost daily during key periods of the unfolding Schiavo drama, most mainstream media reports, such as those by the Associated Press:

> claimed in headlines and in text that Terri Schiavo was in a "persistent vegetative state," although that is a key point under contention between medical experts for the two sides of the debate. Many medical professionals, therapists – and the girl's parents – insist she is conscious, responsive, and wants to live.

> virtually ignored or buried the fact that Terri's husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo – who has been trying for years to have Terri's feeding tube removed, so she will die – lives with another woman and has had two children with her.

> rarely mentioned that Michael Schiavo "remembered" that Terri had long ago told him she wouldn't want to be kept alive by artificial means, only after he had won a million-dollar malpractice award – money meant for Terri's rehabilitation. Later, Schiavo pressed his court case to remove his wife's feeding tube and cause her to die by starvation and dehydration.

> routinely claimed Terri Schiavo suffered a "heart attack," although that too is hotly disputed by those in favor of Terri's remaining alive. In fact, some defenders of the brain-disabled woman's right to live have called for a thorough investigation of the circumstances of Terri's mysterious collapse and subsequent brain-damage, to eliminate the possibility of foul play on Michael Schiavo's part.The spectacle of Terri's husband fighting in the courts for years to end her life, while her parents strive desperately to win guardianship so they can just take her home and take care of her, presented a story that just didn't add up to many people who read only "mainstream" news coverage of the case.

But for readers of WorldNetDaily's comprehensive coverage –widely credited with leading the onslaught of outrage (at one point resulting in 10 e-mails per second to Gov. Jeb Bush) urging a reversal of the court order to kill Terri Schiavo – the story made sense, since they got the whole story, at least as much as is currently known.

To Vote now in this years 2004 WorldNetDaily "Spiked" news -- meaning supressed in the mainstream media -- story or issue.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41609

FV SAYS FYI: (World Net Daily used freeper trial notes to write their visitation hearing report re: Hospice witness lack of credibility on the stand in May of 2004.) Remember that the CLEARWATER POLICE DEPT. delayed Terri's family from seeing her for 59 days based upon a PHONY criminal assault and an attempt to set up Terri's dad with a videotape allegedly of Terri THAT ATTY BUSHNELL NEVER EVEN LOOKED AT BUT SUBMITTED AS EVIDENCE!!! BUSHNELL SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISBARRED FOR THAT. And Attorney Scott Swope interrogated Terri's dad (Swope being a former PINELLAS COUNTY SHERIFF at the time of Terri's collapse).

WHAT A HEARING THAT WAS... Read that at WND's Terri Schiavo archives.

127 posted on 12/31/2004 6:57:57 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: amdgmary
Ping to my last re: World Net Daily Terri Cover-up at number 9 for 2003. That needs to be emailed to the Fla. House & Senate if the Supreme Court joins the euthanasia movement instead of protecting Terri's Law that saved Terri's Life.

The entire world knows what's going on here in Florida. I listened to Wes Smith, Phd. on George Noory last night. He called Terri's crisis in Florida tyranny. It most certainly is.

128 posted on 12/31/2004 7:02:13 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Well, I provided last year's list ABOVE which we can use for 2005. I think WND's message board is out of order. Thanks for trying. I took down their customer service number. I'll call them politely sometime and find out what's up with their message board.


129 posted on 12/31/2004 7:04:14 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

I've also been convinced this past year that apathy is very high. I think there are many people who are really in denial about different aspects of Terri's case.


130 posted on 12/31/2004 7:28:46 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: floriduh voter
Speaking of Judges Greer and Demers, you all might find this article from today's St. Pete Times interesting:

In uneasy campaign, judges vie for top job.

It seems that Judge Greer is challenging Judge Demers for the position of "Chief Judge" of the 6th Judicial Circuit Court. According to the article, though, even if Greer wins, he'll keep the Schiavo case.

132 posted on 12/31/2004 10:02:09 AM PST by tbritton
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Judge George Greer deserves the BOOT!


133 posted on 12/31/2004 10:28:02 AM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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To: floriduh voter

You may hope Judge Georgette Greer has a change of heart and a change of mind but I submit to you that he never had a heart or a mind to begin with.

He is a heartless, mindless, despicable individual. He would have been a "fine" judge in Nazi Germany between the years 1933 - 1945.

Hitler awaits him in hell.


134 posted on 12/31/2004 1:00:35 PM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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To: Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat

Welcome to Free Republic!


135 posted on 12/31/2004 2:12:20 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: tbritton

Doesn't that beat all? Shows Greer for the power-hungry jack@ss that he is!


136 posted on 12/31/2004 2:16:44 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat; Ohioan from Florida; cyn; Republic; russesjunjee; amdgmary; ...
I luv your screen name. I agree that he is less than garbage. I am appalled that he is vying to be Chief Judge. In that capacity, he could blackball everyone here who despises him if we have ANY CASE in the Sixth Circuit. I loathe the Pinellas GOP for propping this scumbag up. That's how I REALLY feel.

Now, my pals at this web site linking to www.terrisfight.org have a Greeting for us.

This web site is based in Wisconsin. It's very good...

137 posted on 12/31/2004 3:15:13 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat

Greer deserves the boot... What kind of boot? ski boot or jack booted thug bog?


138 posted on 12/31/2004 3:16:37 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Wampus SC; trussell; windchime; trustandobey; pickyourpoison; codyjacksmom; T'wit; Ciexyz; ...

Ping to 137. Happy New Year and pls visit my friend's web site.


139 posted on 12/31/2004 3:29:57 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: okokie; cyn; freepertoo; FR_addict; Wampus SC; Schiminie; lilypad; TOUGH STOUGH; Scoop 1; ...

Ping to 137. Terri's Freepers and Greer's Awful Ping List, you're the best freepers in the universe! FV


140 posted on 12/31/2004 3:32:48 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
Look up the Boy Scout Troops in Tampa, Florida. Judge Alternbern is a troop leader and "hunger is just wrong". Help stamp out hunger" but starve Terri, ya see? Everything is upside down here in the land of opposites.

It is very sick and their denial was without comment. The Schindlers didn't get any explanation. JACK BOOTED THUGS IN BLACK ROBES fighting hunger on the weekends and starving disabled people all week.

We must continue to expose Florida's top to bottom corrupt judicial system. I shouldn't have to be here on New Year's Eve night but, for Terri, here I am.

God Bless her.

141 posted on 12/31/2004 3:45:13 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: tbritton

Judge Demers or Judge Greer... I hope someone else puts their name in the pile. Demers and Greer are both old hat, staying beyond their time and staying crime after crime.


142 posted on 12/31/2004 3:47:56 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter

What site? I don't see a link, but blondeness prevails at times! LOL


143 posted on 12/31/2004 4:14:17 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar

www.gopinsight.com (it's in the Happy New Year's at #137.


145 posted on 12/31/2004 6:02:08 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Scoop 1
WND's message board is malfunctioning. I think we have ample proof of same. Happy New Year. I'm waiting for all the New Year's hub bub to begin.

Instead of party hats this year, we're wearing trucker hats. I'm wearing a camoflage baseball cap RIGHT NOW and my guest is wearing a red and black checked hunting cap i.e. Elmer Fudd.

146 posted on 12/31/2004 6:06:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Dante3

Ping. Happy New Year - January thread. Greer's vying to be CHIEF JUDGE & EXECUTIONER.


147 posted on 12/31/2004 7:49:24 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter

Doesn't Judge George Greer have a nice head of skin?


148 posted on 12/31/2004 10:22:30 PM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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To: Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter

Thanks!

When Judge George Greer goes to the barbershop, does he ask his barber to take just a little off the top?

Does he actually REQUEST that do???

I can just hear him saying..."Shave the top completely bald and leave the sides alone, in case I want to do a comb-over."

Does Greer actually pay good money for THAT hairstyle?


149 posted on 12/31/2004 10:33:55 PM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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To: floriduh voter

Happy New Year! Hope it will be a better one for Terri and her parents.


150 posted on 01/01/2005 7:02:42 AM PST by Dante3
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