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Lost in Translation (Schwarzenegger NEVER SAID "Republicans should move to the left")
FoxNews ^ | Dec. 29, 2004 | Brit Hume (on Grapewine)

Posted on 12/29/2004 1:52:30 PM PST by FairOpinion

There was uproar in Republican circles last week when California Governor Arnold Scharzenegger (search) was quoted in a German newspaper saying that the Republican Party should "move a little further left." But the reporter who conducted the interview now says Schwarzenegger never actually said that.

Marc Hujer translated Schwarzenegger's English remarks into German and says he changed the phrasing to make the interview more understandable to a German audience. Schwarzenegger actually said he'd like to "Keep [the Republican Party] to the right where it is, but ... cross over that centerline a little bit, because that would immediately take away 5 percent from the Democrats."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; german; journalist; left; maria; mcclintockspinners; misquoted; misquotes; moveleft; msm; quote; republicans; rino; schwartzenrino; schwarzenegger
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The misquote was all over the media, which was happily trying to sow division between Arnold and the Republicans, and many Republicans, still believing the MSM, were up in arms against Arnold.

Well, MSM lied again, and you have a hard time to find this correction anywhere. I happened to watch FoxNews, when they mentioned the correction, and I was just able to find it on the web, ONLY on FoxNews. The rest of the media is not bothering to bring out the truth.

Keep this in mind, the next time you hear anything from the MSM.

The actual quote from Arnold sounds very different, doesn't it? Arnold merely wants the Republicans to get another 5% of the vote, which would send the Dems into obscurity.

1 posted on 12/29/2004 1:52:31 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

The actual quote from Arnold sounds very different, doesn't it? Arnold merely wants the Republicans to get another 5% of the vote, which would send the Dems into obscurity.

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So what direction is Arnold suggesting the GOP move in order to get that 5%?

To the right? No.
To the left? Yes.

What's the uproar about?


2 posted on 12/29/2004 1:58:23 PM PST by dmz
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To: FairOpinion

May be a misquote, but Arnold seems more and more like a pompous tool, who had to be begged to campaign for Bush.

Anyone who marries a Kennedy has serious issues. Let him have his time in California. After that, make more movies.


3 posted on 12/29/2004 1:58:42 PM PST by GianniV
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To: FairOpinion

I didn't think Arnold was that stupid and was pleased to see this "correction" the other day. A broken clock is correct more than Old Media these days. LOL


4 posted on 12/29/2004 1:58:46 PM PST by Peach
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To: FairOpinion

What?

Oh please......

Schwarzy is a RINO.


5 posted on 12/29/2004 1:58:49 PM PST by stopem
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To: FairOpinion
The misquote was all over the media

And this forum, stated as PROOF that Arnold really isn't good enough.

6 posted on 12/29/2004 1:59:11 PM PST by Howlin
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To: FairOpinion
"Keep [the Republican Party] to the right where it is, but ... cross over that centerline a little bit, because that would immediately take away 5 percent from the Democrats."

Sorry, but it still reads the same to me. If the GOP is to the right of the centerline, and Arnold advocates crossing over the centerline, then it stands to reason he advocates a move left.

I don't think it lost anything in the translation.

7 posted on 12/29/2004 2:00:53 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: FairOpinion
The actual quote from Arnold sounds very different, doesn't it?

No, it doesn't sound different at all. The title of this thread is misleading and should be changed. The German reporters explanation sound exactly what was reported in the U.S.

Please ask the moderator to change the title, in the interests of accuracy.

8 posted on 12/29/2004 2:02:01 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: GianniV

Apparently you missed Arnold's terrific speech in support of Bush at the Republican convention, which may have given Bush a good number of "middle-of-the-road" moderates, votes, which he needed to win.

Arnold's speech was only second to that of Zell Miller.


9 posted on 12/29/2004 2:02:28 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion; Howlin; NormsRevenge
He didn't say it, but that won't matter. The pitchforks and torches will still arrive on schedule.

Let's all Poke that 500 lb gorilla...HHAAHAahahahahaaa.......

ping-NR

10 posted on 12/29/2004 2:04:24 PM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi-Leef lang de Katjes van Viking)
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The article SAYS this:

"But the reporter who conducted the interview now says Schwarzenegger never actually said that."

How is that my putting that in the title IN PARANTHESIS, as explanation, since "Lost in Translation", which is the actual title of the article gives no indication, what it's about.

11 posted on 12/29/2004 2:05:02 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: nickcarraway

I obviously edited my last sentence, but didn't finish, when I accidentally hit send, so it ended up totally garbled.


Here is what I meant to say:

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"The article SAYS this:
"But the reporter who conducted the interview now says Schwarzenegger never actually said that."


How is my putting a quote from the article, in the title, IN PARANTHESIS, as explanation, (since "Lost in Translation", which is the actual title of the article gives no indication, what it's about) inaccurate?

Please explain.


12 posted on 12/29/2004 2:07:56 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: nickcarraway

I guess to you "middle" = "left"?

Do you favor the Republican party going further to the right and LOSING 5-10% of the moderates, thereby IT being relegated to a permanent party of minority, and letting the Dems rule the US?


13 posted on 12/29/2004 2:09:57 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Did you read the full article?

How do you explaint his?

"move a little further left." But the reporter who conducted the interview now says Schwarzenegger never actually said that.

"Keep [the Republican Party] to the right where it is, but ... cross over that centerline a little bit, because that would immediately take away 5 percent from the Democrats."

move a little further left = cross over that centerline a little bit

Those two statements mean the same thing, unless you contend that the Republican Party is left of the centerline. Is that what you meant??

I think your headline is misleading, and you should change it if you are honorable. By the way, if you have the original German I will look at it, as I speak German.

14 posted on 12/29/2004 2:10:14 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion

Doesn't change the fact that Ahhnold was a sh-ty actor and a joke of a statesman.


15 posted on 12/29/2004 2:14:04 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: FairOpinion
I guess to you "middle" = "left"?

NO, it doesn't. But direction is still a meaningful concept. A person in Southern Chile who goes ten miles north, is still going North, even if they are in the extreme Southern part of the earth..

Are you saying that if Schwarzegger said that a person in Southern Chile should move a little bit to the North, and it was reported that that Schwarzenegger said yhat person should move Northward, it was incorrect?

Let's face it, this is sheer equivocation.

16 posted on 12/29/2004 2:14:52 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Cross over the center line = MIDDLE

The phrasing and context makes a big difference.

Moving to the left is interpreted as several giant steps to the left, basically becoming a Democrats, while calling yourself a Republican.

Crossing over the center line "A LITTLE BIT" means welcoming moderates. Arnold also made the purpose very clear, to get more people into the tent of the Republican Party and taking power away from the Democrats.

Apparently you don't think taking power away from the Democrats by minor changes is a good thing?


17 posted on 12/29/2004 2:15:05 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

cross over that centerline a little bit,

Okay, maybe there are those who think everyone isn't educated. You move from centerline it is either left or right and Arnie definitely meant left. Even conservatives are playing semantics with us.


18 posted on 12/29/2004 2:15:25 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: FairOpinion

Dangit. I got a kneecap in the eye for nothing!


19 posted on 12/29/2004 2:15:39 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Clemenza

Ronald Reagan was an actor.


20 posted on 12/29/2004 2:16:10 PM PST by FairOpinion
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