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Tsunami adds to belief in animals' "sixth sense"
Reuters ^ | 12/30/04 | Ed Stoddard

Posted on 12/30/2004 3:15:26 AM PST by kattracks

JOHANNESBURG, Dec 30 (Reuters) - Wild animals seem to have escaped the Indian Ocean tsunami, adding weight to notions they possess a "sixth sense" for disasters, experts said on Thursday.

Sri Lankan wildlife officials have said the giant waves that killed over 24,000 people along the Indian Ocean island's coast seemingly missed wild beasts, with no dead animals found.

"No elephants are dead, not even a dead hare or rabbit. I think animals can sense disaster. They have a sixth sense. They know when things are happening," H.D. Ratnayake, deputy director of Sri Lanka's Wildlife Department, said on Wednesday.

The waves washed floodwaters up to 3 km (2 miles) inland at Yala National Park in the ravaged southeast, Sri Lanka's biggest wildlife reserve and home to hundreds of wild elephants and several leopards. "There has been a lot of anecdotal evidence about dogs barking or birds migrating before volcanic eruptions or earthquakes. But it has not been proven," said Matthew van Lierop, an animal behaviour specialist at Johannesburg Zoo.

"There have been no specific studies because you can't really test it in a lab or field setting," he told Reuters.

Other authorities concurred with this assessment.

"Wildlife seem to be able to pick up certain phenomenon, especially birds ... there are many reports of birds detecting impending disasters," said Clive Walker, who has written several books on African wildlife.

Animals certainly rely on the known senses such as smell or hearing to avoid danger such as predators.

The notion of an animal "sixth sense" -- or some other mythical power -- is an enduring one which the evidence on Sri Lanka's battered coast is likely to add to.

The Romans saw owls as omens of impending disaster and many ancient cultures viewed elephants as sacred animals endowed with special powers or attributes.

The tsunami was triggered by an earthquake in the Indian Ocean on Sunday. It killed tens of thousands of people in Asia and East Africa.



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1 posted on 12/30/2004 3:15:26 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

A more plausible explanation than this bogus magical animal sixth sense nonsense: All the beachfront in these overpopulated hellholes is hogged by humans for fishing, tourism, etc. The animals are inland in the mountains and forests.


2 posted on 12/30/2004 3:22:51 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FormerACLUmember

That, and many animals are liable to flee at the slightest instigation..


3 posted on 12/30/2004 3:25:57 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: kattracks

Actually animals have sharper senses than humans. They can detect weather changes. For example some birds fly south before winter and make the same stops each year. Dogs sniff out people. They DO know when storms are approaching as well.


4 posted on 12/30/2004 3:26:34 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: FormerACLUmember

There is an old saying: Those who know the sea, do not live by the sea. Animals follow this rule, generally, with the exception of shore birds.


5 posted on 12/30/2004 3:29:18 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: kattracks

I imagine the animals "felt the earthquake" and fled inland to seek cover.

There were several references to the "earth trembling" from the after effects of this strong earthquake, so an animal would be much more atune to that.

Plus their sense of hearing is so much keener. Maybe they heard the wave coming...my dogs know a thunderstorm is approaching long before I do.


7 posted on 12/30/2004 3:34:25 AM PST by dawn53
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To: kattracks
I suspect animals can detect low level, subsonic rumblings that occur hours before plates shift. This seems to make sense. Animals do have incredible sensory abilities.

Snakes detecting incredible minute changes in temperature.

Bloodhounds being able to smell a few (let's not get technical) molecules of scent.

Eagles/hawks being able to "see" a field mouse from a mile or two away.

Moths/bugs detecting incredibly small amounts of various substances.

8 posted on 12/30/2004 3:39:22 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: dawn53

Don't you imagine the approaching tsunami might create "vibrations"? Like on the tracks when a train is still very distant. Perhaps animals can sense those.


9 posted on 12/30/2004 3:40:26 AM PST by Timeout
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To: AmericaUnited

Add dogs' ability to hear high pitched sounds which we can't detect. Vibrations can emit such high tones (think tuning fork).


10 posted on 12/30/2004 3:42:19 AM PST by Timeout
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To: FormerACLUmember
A more plausible explanation than this bogus magical animal sixth sense nonsense

Rubbish. Animals have been endowed by their creator with mechanisms to survive that you didn't get. No need to be snippy about it.

11 posted on 12/30/2004 3:42:39 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Glenn

He wasn't getting snippy, just saying that it is a natural sense and not some voodoo "magical" powers.


12 posted on 12/30/2004 3:44:53 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: nmh
Birds also have a biological micro-barometer, that they normally use to judge their altitude, and it's also a very good weather predictor. The barometric change cycle caused by an approaching storm is easily picked up by them.

You may have noticed that when the pressure drops ahead of a storm, swallows, purple martins, etc. fly at lower altitudes.

14 posted on 12/30/2004 3:52:26 AM PST by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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To: AmericaUnited
just saying that it is a natural sense and not some voodoo "magical" powers.

He said no such thing. He accused humans of crowding the animals out to a secure distance.

15 posted on 12/30/2004 3:56:36 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: kattracks
Our family used to have a German Shepard and it was deathly afraid of thunderstorms. We knew a thunderstorm was on the way when that dog would shake, shiver and tremble. It would tremble so much, the poor thing looked like it had legs of jelly.

Horses and cattle are keenly aware of climatic and changes in nature as well, whether its a thunderstorm, tornado, or even a winter blizzard.

16 posted on 12/30/2004 3:57:36 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Timeout
Add dogs' ability to hear high pitched sounds which we can't detect. Vibrations can emit such high tones (think tuning fork).

Cats can hear at an even higher pitch than dogs. Elephants, on the other hand, can hear at a lower range than humans. Their superior hearing, sight and, perhaps, an ability to sense changes in the atmosphere warned animals that something was terribly wrong and to flee if they could.

My late father had a leg that could tell if rain was coming -- the result of a wound from WWII.

17 posted on 12/30/2004 4:00:02 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: kattracks
There was an article posted today about how the Euro-tourists on vacation in parts of the world hit by the tsunami were back to drinking and partying despite the dead bodies still lingering in their vacation spots.

Sometimes (most times) people are just to self-absorbed and shallow to be tuned into any signs that might help them understand and interpret the natural world.
18 posted on 12/30/2004 4:01:56 AM PST by spodefly (Do not remove this tagline under penalty of law.)
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To: capt. norm

Thanks for the added information.

Interesting, isn't it?

I have a soft spot for the eagle. Instead of getting as far away from a storm as possible or hiding they stay and soar ABOVE the storm.

Need I add that I love animals. They fascinate me.


19 posted on 12/30/2004 4:04:45 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kattracks
Actually this story seems to leave out which park this references. I looked this story up yesterday after it was posted by Reuters.

The park in question is Yala National Park which was situated on the Southern tip of Sri Lanka and abuts the ocean. It is one of the areas hit by the 32ft. high waves and flood waters rushing in 2 miles or so. The safari lodge located there was completely wiped out and lives lost. Pictures from the lodge area were showing the only thing left was the foundation and almost no debris, it was all swept out into the ocean. The park is/was famous for the elephants and has the most leopards of any park.
20 posted on 12/30/2004 4:21:09 AM PST by EBH (A very proud Aunt of a US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I would agree with your analysis as you would assume there would be little or nothing for an animal at sea side. My first thought was most animals don't have hands and therefore were swept out to sea. I mean, how could you prove it, although I believe it's been proven that dogs have a sense prior to an earthquake happening...


21 posted on 12/30/2004 4:21:29 AM PST by Mean Daddy
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To: BernardSumner
"to give them a fairer chance when we blast at them with shot guns you mean?"

Yeah ... I know what you mean. Cruel isn't it?

Why I haven't mowed my lawn, or weed whacked since I discovered I was killing lizards and bugs, not to mention the torture I was inflicting on the grass and weeds. ;)

22 posted on 12/30/2004 4:22:26 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: kattracks
I think humans have this un-magical sixth sense; it's just a matter of tuning in.

I feel tremblors all the time that nobody else seems to notice....and confirmed in the news broadcasts later in the day.

My eyes are bad, and my hearing, impaired; but a walk in the woods with company, and I'm the one pointing out the birds and flowers and animals. I see and hear...and especially smell things.....that others don't click on. I think it's cuz folks are having internal dialogue, and missing subtle clues all around them. Animals don't have chats with themselves in their heads. Survival depends on analysis of environment.

My theory is that one can train one's self to a hightened state of permanent alertness. I spent many years on a walking beat in the city....wee hours, totally outwardly focused, looking, listening, smelling, making sub-conscious notes. It becomes a mode after a while. I think soldiers must get this happening, too. Fishermen get it: survival, in all three examples, depends on analysis of environment.

23 posted on 12/30/2004 4:23:13 AM PST by dasboot
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To: Glenn

Actually, most animals can swim instinctively. Many people, especially the young and third world women can't.


24 posted on 12/30/2004 4:26:20 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: DB

Apparently, third-world women are designated by the Creator as floats for third-world men, from what I've read.


25 posted on 12/30/2004 4:28:07 AM PST by dasboot
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To: FormerACLUmember

Bingo!


26 posted on 12/30/2004 4:36:22 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Happy Festivus ...)
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To: dasboot

I doubt Muslim women in particular are ever given the opportunity learn to swim.


27 posted on 12/30/2004 4:40:45 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: DB
I recall an account of an Anglo-gal who survived the tipping of one of those notoriously overloaded ferry boats in the Asian-Pacific region:

She recalls the men stripping life jackets from the women and climbing atop swimming women, drowning them, to save themselves. The author related it to cultural pecularities....probably Islam.....maybe else?

Reader's Digest....some years ago.

28 posted on 12/30/2004 4:50:51 AM PST by dasboot
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To: FormerACLUmember
Leave it to the academics.......guess it never occurred to them that there was very little likelihood of elephants romping on the beaches amongst the tourists.
29 posted on 12/30/2004 4:55:06 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: kattracks
Many years ago we had a Golden Retriever. The sun would be shining, not a cloud in the sky, and she'd run for the barn. You would know a storm was on the way. She wouldn't hide for a normal rain shower, only lightening and thunder storms.

She was right every time.
30 posted on 12/30/2004 5:02:35 AM PST by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: kattracks
Humans have a similar "6th sense," only it causes a different reaction in them.

There's a tornado; let's chase it. A hurricane is coming; let's go surfing. Here comes an ice storm; let's go driving in our 4WD at 50 MPH. Etc.

31 posted on 12/30/2004 5:03:56 AM PST by aardvark1 (Something was seared in my memory but I forgot what it was.)
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To: EBH

Do they have a final estimate of exactly how far inland and how high the water was when it reached it? Also how long did it take to recede?


33 posted on 12/30/2004 5:28:12 AM PST by JBCiejka
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To: kassie

The cats in my wife's mother's house would one day go crazy, charging about, knocking things over, hiding, not coming out even for food. Within twenty-four hours there would be news of an earthquake somewhere in the world. Never failed.


34 posted on 12/30/2004 5:34:00 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: dasboot

When that ferry sunk in the Baltic ten years ago or so, men did the same thing, climbing over women and shrieking children. Nearly all the few survivors were men between 20 and 40.

What got me was that drifting Dominican boat a few month back, and the men started forcing women to suckle them, biting at their breasts, first the nursing women, and then the rest of them.

Chivalry seems well and truly dead, all over.

Mrs VS


35 posted on 12/30/2004 5:44:01 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: JBCiejka

"Do they have a final estimate of exactly how far inland and how high the water was when it reached it? Also how long did it take to recede?"

Naw, they don't have that info yet. I'd think it's still much too early for those kinds of details. There are several articles out there floating around about Yala National Park. One is Reuters and the other is an AP. I think the AP reporter had a flyover of the park. The park is 103+ hectacres with only 56 open to the public, so it's pretty large. Since they were doing flyovers, I'm sure there was some sort of an initial assessment going on that led to the reports.


36 posted on 12/30/2004 5:48:09 AM PST by EBH (A very proud Aunt of a US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: FormerACLUmember

"There is an old saying: Those who know the sea, do not live by the sea."

What a crock. I'll be sure to tell that to the next 4th generation commercial fisherman I run across down on the NC coast.


37 posted on 12/30/2004 5:52:17 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: EBH
I read that it was about 500 acres. You'd think somebody would have noticed a mass exodus of the animal kingdom. Elephants especially. I said it on another thread, sorta brings to mind a scene out of jumanji. It is weird that so few critters from the animal kingdom or marine life have been found dead.
38 posted on 12/30/2004 6:01:13 AM PST by exhaustedmomma (Tancredo said Bush's guest-worker proposal is "a pig with lipstick")
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39 posted on 12/30/2004 6:02:38 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: nmh

My weather barometer (NC) isn't the clueless weather people on TV - but the birds in the yard. Watch for them to go crazy feeding and you know snow is REALLY coming in 24 hrs..


40 posted on 12/30/2004 6:06:26 AM PST by Swanks
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To: elcid1970
Hmm. If animals really can detect thunderstorms or earthquakes, it's likely due to good hearing or possibly the smell of ozone in the air?

Let's assume with the earthquake in Asia, the animals were able to hear the quake before the tsunami arrived (though I doubt that many animals were within the range of the water to begin with). Sound travels around 700mph thru air, but I don't know how fast thru water. I know these waves can travel hundreds of miles per hour, but I doubt they are going as fast a sound waves. Animals with good low frequency hearing, such as elephants, might actually have some "warning". It might be interesting to see if some of the elephants in Asia were acting strangely right after the sound waves would have reached them. It's likely that at least some humans were watching elephants somewhere in the area when it occured.
41 posted on 12/30/2004 6:08:23 AM PST by trenton1776
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To: kattracks

Hmmmm... now that I think about it, you never saw any squirrls or chipmunks around at Kerry rallies, didya?


42 posted on 12/30/2004 6:17:00 AM PST by Kerfuffle
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To: kattracks
It seems unlikely that animals would recognize a low frequency rumbling means they should run for higher ground. I think a more plausible explanation is that they are generally located further inland, and when the first waves hit they ran in the other direction instead of standing around to gawk likes humans are prone to do.

No sixth sense required for either of those things...

44 posted on 12/30/2004 6:29:19 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: dasboot

I'm sure the feminists love this kind of story.


45 posted on 12/30/2004 7:14:20 AM PST by blurb
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To: kattracks
I read an article a few years ago about some guy in California that would predict eartquakes based on the number of lost pet ads in the paper. His research showed that the number of ads routinely soared within the last day or two before a major earthquake.

He looked like kind of a nut, but he did have some facts at his disposal...

46 posted on 12/30/2004 7:50:23 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: kattracks

I don't see why this is a "sixth" sense at all--if it shows to be a genuine phenomena, it should be simple to explain. Most animals already have senses better than our own--smell, hearing--and might well be better at paying attn to them.


47 posted on 12/30/2004 8:03:35 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: kattracks; All

There is a dead animal in the gruesome photo on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310424/posts?page=5#5 at reply #5. At first I thought it was a baby, but the feet look much too small to be anything but a cat or dog.

THE PHOTO IS VERY DISTURBING. Don't go if you think it may upset you. The animal is in the bottom left-hand corner.


48 posted on 12/30/2004 8:26:32 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: nmh

When I was in High School in North Carolina, we had a hurricane coming up the coast and about to strike us.

The birds just went nuts. We had twenty or thirty blackbirds which flew down our chimney an hour or so before the storm hit.

Wierd. I think they responded to changes in barometric pressure.


49 posted on 12/30/2004 8:49:27 AM PST by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: dasboot
My theory is that one can train one's self to a hightened state of permanent alertness. I spent many years on a walking beat in the city....wee hours, totally outwardly focused, looking, listening, smelling, making sub-conscious notes. It becomes a mode after a while. I think soldiers must get this happening, too. Fishermen get it: survival, in all three examples, depends on analysis of environment.

I agree only you left out hunters. I have many times smelled my quarry before sighting them, my broother still thinks I am making this up. On another note about animal sith sense. Most seem to be posting about animals other senses and I indeed believe that these basic senses 9 times out of 10 is what enables the animal to survive. It is just a higher level of sense. Wheteher we are talking about a Deers ability to see movement at great distance or a Turkeys ability to pinpoint your location from a single cluck on the call.

The ability for the animals to see or hear the coing waves or the initial quake I would argue would not be part of the 6th sense that I believe they have.

Their sixth sense comes in, most of the time in my experience as a sportsman, when you are in the field with out a gun and just observing nature you can walk right up on them and they will not spook. But put a gun in your hand and try it. I read once where the vibe if you could call it that, put out by predators is picked up by animals of prey and acted upon. You can believe this or not as I have no way of proving it other than field experience that could be subject to many other factors.

50 posted on 12/30/2004 10:06:17 AM PST by freethinkingman
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