Posted on 12/30/2004 9:58:50 PM PST by tbird5
I thought the anti-Christian asshats hung out at DU. I know they'd feel more at home there.
LOL. You haven't done anything that warrants punishment? Ever lied, stolen (even a little thing), hurt someone else? I doubt your as saintly as you think.
Version of Christianity. There's only one version. It's in the Bible. Calling yourself a Chritian doesn't make you one.
Those children are in heaven now and doing a heck of a lot better than you are.
Arrogance and pride are a sad thing. How tragic to be so arrogant you think you could have designed and created the whole universe better. Hope ya figure it out someday.
Back in 1999 or 2000 there was a short article in USA Today that the nutcase who had attempted to asassinate the Pope some years earlier had appealed his conviction in the Italian courts on the basis that his actions were the result of pre-destination, something beyond his control.
I never read any followup, so I assume that appeal was rejected with laughs and snickers.
Excellent assessment. That was, I'd wager, his entire purpose.
Seems a heck of a lot more sane than believing we just appeared out of nothing....that we evolved from slime and somehow a one celled life form managed to evolve while not dying off as irreducibly complex parts of the body changed and evolved. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. And those who do have to ignore too much. It's always amazing to me that Atheists can be so condescending while believing in some of the most ludicrous theories.
You know your hypothesis could be turned back on you. You make yourself feel better by telling yourself it doesn't matter what you do because it's all relative. As long as you tell yourself you'll never have to answer for your life, you can enjoy whatever you want and never suffer any consequences. You'll even go so far as to say all religions are true, even though they are diametrically apposed in most cases and cannot all be true. You just tell yourself whatever you have to to give yourself hope. Now, isn't that kind of condescension disgusting and annoying?
Do we really want to think of ourselves as inhabitants of a universe created and ruled by a deity which operates in the way this young woman seems to think, a deity which, seemingly on a whim, allows over 100,000 people to perish in truly horrible ways, but protects others from harm because of prayer interventions and the like?If I thought our universe worked this way, I'd be disappointed in its design.
Would that design really be any worse than a world where we are all here merely by some cosmic accident, where there is no Creator, and where all the suffering we do is merely a result of random events (bad luck)? What would be the point of remaining alive? If someone were in a car accident tomorrow, and ended up paralyzed at the age of 20, would it be more comforting to know that it was simply bad luck, and that all of those sorrowful years spent since then amounted to nothing, and served nothing?
Whether there is a Creator or not, most people endure some pretty dark days in their lives, maybe even dark enough to make them question whether remaining alive is worth the price. There may be a few in this world who live lives without significant pain, but I think I have yet to meet one. Wouldn't believing in a divine purpose make it somewhat easier to bear? A universe without a Creator means that everything we do and suffer is for nothing.
Well spoken. The fact that you can express so clearly the view you disagree with shows that you've given that view some careful thought. But you haven't thought it out quite far enough. It's false to conclude that, because our individual selves don't last forever, there's no reason to seek the continued preservation of those selves for now.
In mathematics, it's often necessary to distinguish between what's true (or false) globally and what's true (or false) locally. As it happens, all of the currently available evidence suggests that it's false to think that there's a global meaning to our existence, but that it's true to think that there's abundant local meaning to our existence, meaning which we create each moment through our interactions with the world and each other.
The idea that, if we don't exist forever, existing at all is worthless, is just so much crap. Let me express my position apothegmatically:
Sufficient unto the day is the experience thereof.
Are you to proud to think you came from organic compounds and enzymes?
No, just don't have enough faith to believe that kind of bad science. God gave us a brain so we could use it to figure out that a universe created out of nothing (even evolutionists admit this is true) could not have happened without a designer. If you do some research without the blinders on you'll come to the same conclusion.
"I hear you say that it all sounds crazy
It's a good story but it can't be true
How could a man who was dead and buried
Mean a thing to me and you
"Here we are two thousand years later
And still the choice is just the same
You can say that ya don't believe it
But it doesn't change a thing
"You can close your eyes
You can say it's a lie
You can stick your head in the sand
You can turn away even try to explain
He was just another man
When they nailed Him to the cross by His hands and His feet and they put Him in the ground
Three days later everybody found out that ya can't
No you can't keep a good man down, no
No you can't keep a good man down
"I can tell you He's alive 'cause He lives in me
But the rest is up to you." - Newsong
"Sometimes when I'm faced with an unbeliever, an atheist, I am tempted to invite him to the greatest gourmet dinner that one could ever serve, and when we finished eating that magnificent dinner, to ask him if he believes there's a cook." -- Ronald Reagan
LOL Love it. Hadn't heard that one.
Come on over to one of the crevo threads sometime and we'll try to explain to you how it all works.
Well, when New Madrid goes big, it won't be safe here either.
Ah, but Mr. President, have you ever seen cooked food reproduce itself? Because that's what evolution needs - things that make imperfect copies of themselves. The transformation of once-living matter into cooked food has to be done by a cook because evolution can't do that.
Come on over to contenderministries.org and will let you know how delusional you have to be to believe in evolution ;)
The world fears the rise of "Christian influence", blaming them for the election results, so the hit pieces increase. Predictable. The natural consequence of the faith block remaining silent no longer is that these people are threatened. Matters not. Persecution isn't new to Christians and I refuse to play this little game.
If they are truly desirous in seeking answers to these questions than I welcome them to Church, though reading their Bible would be a start. If all they seek are ways to mock and belittle my God and believers they can seek their amusement with another.
I will only state I have no doubt in God's existence, nor that He is just but merciful. This belief survives the arrogance or insult of one that denies Him. I will offer no Defence for acknowledging my Creator, I feel none necessary.
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