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Poll: Gov. Gregoire Illegitimate
NewsMax ^ | 12/31/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 12/31/2004 3:32:13 PM PST by wagglebee

A poll of Washington residents released the day Democrat Christine Gregoire was certified as the winner in the state's hotly contested governor's race shows that a majority of voters believes she was not legitimately elected.

The GOP polling firm Strategic Vision, LLC found that 54 percent of voters "do not believe" that the final hand recount that certified Gregoire as the victor "reflects the actual election results," reports Friday's Washington Times.

Only 37 percent believed the recount was accurate, and that Gregoire truly defeated her GOP opponent, Dino Rossi. Nine percent were undecided.

Fifty-three percent of Washington voters say the results in heavily Democratic King County, where hundreds of votes mysteriously appeared on the eve of a final recount, were not legitimate.

The survey is particularly significant since at least some of the respondents who called the certified recount illegitimate were Democrats who actually cast their votes for Gregoire.

Strategic Vision, LLC surveyed 800 registered voters on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. The margin of error was 3 percent.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: christinegregoire; dinorossi; electionfraud; illegitimate; rats
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The survey is particularly significant since at least some of the respondents who called the certified recount illegitimate were Democrats who actually cast their votes for Gregoire.

The 'Rats can't even cheat discretely enough to satisfy their own base anymore.

1 posted on 12/31/2004 3:32:14 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
This should be in all the left-wing rags out there, above the fold and we should have people calling in to CSPAN and Larry King and every other lib haven...But this will never happen and this poll will not see the light of day except on FR...
2 posted on 12/31/2004 3:35:02 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: wagglebee
New Slogan:

Democrat Christine Gregoire for Governor
We'll find a way to win!

or

Democrat Christine Gregoire for Governor
We'll count the votes until we win!

3 posted on 12/31/2004 3:37:17 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: wagglebee

"The 'Rats can't even cheat discretely enough to satisfy their own base anymore."

They don't even try now.


4 posted on 12/31/2004 3:38:48 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: writer33

You should be happy you moved to Nevada. Hopefully the whole left coast will secede from the Union.


5 posted on 12/31/2004 3:40:49 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: writer33

I know of several Democrats, liberal ones at that, who voted for Rossi because they thought Christine (not the car) was incompetent.

But now that the Democrats have both houses of the legislature and the Governors slot they got some real problems to solve and will take full blame for the result.


6 posted on 12/31/2004 3:42:40 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: wagglebee

The Dems adding to this result are not alike.

You have the Libs in King County that faint over Gorbachav.

Then you have the blue collar Dems. Think Scoop Jackson & Zell Miller's. They are the ones the Dems are thumbing their noses at. Lifers that vote Dem at birth. They are gambling this group isn't going to bolt over this fraud. I keep stating if the Reps play it right this could fracture the Dem base in the long term because these people are at the heart of making WA a permanent swing state. If they realize their party doesn't represent them anymore, Dems are in trouble. Stealing an election isn't going over well.


7 posted on 12/31/2004 3:43:28 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: wagglebee

Of course it's illegitimate. Gregoire stopped recounting when she won.


8 posted on 12/31/2004 3:44:17 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: wagglebee
And I thought the Ukrainian elections were corrupt. They have nothing on King County in Wash. State. What a bunch of maggots. I hope a new election is scheduled. Last I heard that what our guy as trying for.
9 posted on 12/31/2004 3:45:55 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: frog_jerk_2004
Another

Come to Seattle!

We don't just manufacture airplanes that fly!

We manufacture votes that lie!

10 posted on 12/31/2004 3:46:02 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: Soul Seeker

These elitist 'Rats should take a little trip to the deep south. States like South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi had voted for the Democrats consistently for over a century, the 'Rats took them for granted, and now over the last 30 years they have become the some of the most solidly GOP voters ever.


11 posted on 12/31/2004 3:47:25 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: snugs; ride the whirlwind; homemom

"The survey is particularly significant since at least some of the respondents who called the certified recount illegitimate were Democrats who [said they] actually cast their votes for Gregoire."


12 posted on 12/31/2004 3:49:24 PM PST by GretchenM (Was Santa Claus' inventor an entitlement-driven liberal?)
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To: GretchenM

Ooooooooooh, now that is interesting. Mighty weak base she has there.


13 posted on 12/31/2004 4:01:39 PM PST by ride the whirlwind (The smallest Good Deed is better than the grandest Good Intention.)
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To: wagglebee

This is all you guys out there need to know.

Go fight like hell. No concession.

Good luck and God bless all of you in WA.


14 posted on 12/31/2004 4:03:35 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: wagglebee

"You should be happy you moved to Nevada. Hopefully the whole left coast will secede from the Union."

I'm not that happy. The wife and I spent about four hours digging the 18" of snow off the drive while helping the neighbors clean off theirs. It's time to get a snow blower. I've made the wife a believer.

And if they secede, that means no federal funding. Oh, darn it. They'll really feel Blue then.


15 posted on 12/31/2004 4:04:58 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: stubernx98

"But now that the Democrats have both houses of the legislature and the Governors slot they got some real problems to solve and will take full blame for the result."

Please go down now and get a full tube of KY Jelly. You'll need the appropriate lubrication before all of this is over. I'm glad I left in October.


16 posted on 12/31/2004 4:06:48 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: wagglebee

54 to 37 is probably what the "non-cheating" vote count should be.


17 posted on 12/31/2004 4:07:18 PM PST by Former Dodger ("False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil. " - Plato)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
The real clue came the day before the third recount results came in when she called upon Rossi to "accept the result of the third count" (emphasis mine). That same day Paul Berendt claimed he had inside information that Gregoire would end up with an eight-vote lead. She ended up with a ten-vote lead.

That was before the 723 illegitimate (meaning, previously rejected) ballots were recanvassed and thrown into the mix.

18 posted on 12/31/2004 4:10:39 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: wagglebee

This one is worth fighting for! Dont give in!


19 posted on 12/31/2004 4:15:39 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: wagglebee

This is exactly what happened in FL. Two machine recounts, then a hand count that tried to "cherrypick" Democratic counties. (Always easier with Dems because they are all located in one place). In our case the Supremes stopped it.

Now they have gotten away with it in WA. Well, they should take a lesson from FL - since 2000, FL has gone solidly Republican. My county threw out every last Democrat, when before it was considered a Democrat leaning county. Voters remember this kind of thing.

The Democrats have paid in FL for 2 solid election cycles now for Gore's little escapade.


20 posted on 12/31/2004 4:25:41 PM PST by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: wagglebee
Poll: Gov. Gregoire Illegitimate

And so is her 'win' in this election...

21 posted on 12/31/2004 4:28:18 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (REMEMBER THE ALGOREAMO--relentlessly hammer on the TRUTH, like the Dems demand recounts)
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To: wagglebee
As bad as it is that this witch stole the election. The silver lining is that if it stands, it puts the rat demwits in a hole for the next election.

Things have a way of coming back to roost.

22 posted on 12/31/2004 4:28:50 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: wagglebee

From my blog (sanityanyone.blogspot.com) of yesterday:

"...I can imagine the fell deeds and editorial roar it would cause if Republicans suddenly 'found' 3000 'uncounted' ballots! If I was a resident of WA I would find that completely unacceptable and say so in strongest terms, just like Rossi. I don't like the smell of it even all the way over here in West (By God) Virginia."

Even without a revote Gregiore is hopelessly smeared by the scandal.


23 posted on 12/31/2004 4:31:29 PM PST by wvobiwan (Touchdown! Suckers walk...)
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To: wagglebee

Are these people just pi**ing in the wind? They can sincerely believe that Gregoire and the Demopukes stole the election....but what good will it do, if all the institutions of society let it pass?


24 posted on 12/31/2004 4:33:53 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: frog_jerk_2004

Or, "Cheater Chris and her band of Phonycrats"


25 posted on 12/31/2004 4:34:38 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: wagglebee

What do you mean 54%? I demand a recount.

People, we are going to stay here until we get the count to come out the way we want!


26 posted on 12/31/2004 4:36:56 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: wagglebee
Must be time for a recall.
27 posted on 12/31/2004 4:38:37 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: writer33

If you've never used a snow blower, be warned that you need to lubricate the tube with silicone spray so it doesn't clog. And NEVER put your hand down the tube while it is turned on. Remember that advice and you'll be operating like a champ in a couple of weeks!


28 posted on 12/31/2004 4:47:45 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That's good advice, and it makes sense too. Thanks, AFTR.


29 posted on 12/31/2004 4:55:10 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: writer33; wagglebee
"The 'Rats can't even cheat discretely enough to satisfy their own base anymore."

They don't even try now.

They don't have to. The MSM coverage will imply or even state, that the democrats won, although hotly contested, an honest and legitimate race. They will ignore all of the shenanigans and illegal votes the democrats, with the aid of a democrat judicary, used to finally obtain enough votes to "claim" a phony victory.

30 posted on 12/31/2004 5:03:02 PM PST by LoneSome Journey
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To: LoneSome Journey

"They don't have to. The MSM coverage will imply or even state, that the democrats won, although hotly contested, an honest and legitimate race. They will ignore all of the shenanigans and illegal votes the democrats, with the aid of a democrat judicary, used to finally obtain enough votes to "claim" a phony victory."

Boy, is this ever true. It's not getting coverage now because of the tsunami, but it wasn't getting coverage before. A little on Fox, but ignored largely by all the typical elitists.


31 posted on 12/31/2004 5:04:37 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: wagglebee

Remember, folks. The fashionable color to wear in Washington is now orange. Someone needs to print buttons and bumperstickers that say: "Vladimir Putin endorses Viktoria Gregoirovych."


32 posted on 12/31/2004 5:04:58 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: LoneSome Journey

I wonder if some of those Republicans living in Washington could get together and form a protest outside the Govenor's mansion demanding either all of the bogus ballots be exculed or a new election be held. It would require at least twice the number democrats would generally expect to have at such an event before the MSM would totally ignore the event.


33 posted on 12/31/2004 5:06:20 PM PST by LoneSome Journey
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To: Belteshazzar

LOL


34 posted on 12/31/2004 5:09:26 PM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Belteshazzar
The fashionable color to wear in Washington is now orange.

Someone could make a real killing in Ukraine.. uh, I mean Washington selling orange blazers, stocking caps, jackets, mufflers, ( scarves) etc...
Not to mention the orange flags, buttons and bumperstickers..

" I'd like an orange beeber pleeze.."
" Yessir.. Stuned, or un-stuned ? "
" Stuned, pleeze.."

35 posted on 12/31/2004 5:57:14 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: writer33

Rip up the driveway and have heating coils installed underneath, that should do the trick.


36 posted on 12/31/2004 6:12:29 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee

This is all thanks to Gore. He was a student of statistics and knew that in a close election that is within the margin of error, all the loser has to do is keep recounting the vote until one count out of many declares him the winner. Never mind that he lost all the vote counts until this one instance. It's quite dishonest but beyond the comprehension of the general public.


37 posted on 12/31/2004 6:22:14 PM PST by balls
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To: wagglebee

Geegoire illegitimate?

Since she's a democrat, we already knew she's a bastard!


38 posted on 12/31/2004 6:25:50 PM PST by punster
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To: frog_jerk_2004

Actually, the operative principle for the democrats is:

"If we (the democrats) can't win, fair and square, steal the election!"


39 posted on 12/31/2004 6:29:11 PM PST by punster
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To: afraidfortherepublic
..Remember that advice..

..I was in Evansville,Ind. 12/22>12/24/04, during the the "Snow Blow" as a temp. ..thanks for the belated advice. hahaha :^)

40 posted on 12/31/2004 6:39:03 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: punster; frog_jerk_2004
"If we (the democrats) can't win, fair and square, steal the election!"

Shrillary's hero, Stalin said, "Votes don't matter, its' its' who counts the votes, that what matters."

41 posted on 12/31/2004 6:49:36 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: wagglebee

Ping


42 posted on 12/31/2004 6:58:22 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: skinkinthegrass

"Shrillary's hero, Stalin said, "Votes don't matter, its' its' who counts the votes, that what matters."

That says it very well. It also says who the democrats' role model is.


43 posted on 12/31/2004 7:37:13 PM PST by punster
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To: wagglebee

The people of Washington need to learn a lesson from the People of the Ukraine....and take to the streets and demand a new vote!

Communists are all the same...in Russia and in the USA Democratic party. The only thing missing is the poisoning of Rossi!


44 posted on 12/31/2004 9:40:43 PM PST by tuckrdout (I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.)
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To: Bonaparte

No law in Washington for Recall!


45 posted on 12/31/2004 9:44:08 PM PST by tuckrdout (I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.)
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To: writer33

Not only do they not try, they don't have to thanks to a compliant press that will pretend along with them that the recount is legit. This is just so frightening to me, as the left is thwarting the election process all over the place and getting away with it.


46 posted on 12/31/2004 9:46:38 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: punster

Not really....their "principle" is that all votes but votes for Democrats are not valid!


47 posted on 12/31/2004 9:47:20 PM PST by tuckrdout (I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.)
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To: ladyinred

"This is just so frightening to me, as the left is thwarting the election process all over the place and getting away with it."

It's just a matter of time before they make themselves defunct organizations. After all, what are we here for?

Happy New Year, LIR.


48 posted on 12/31/2004 10:01:36 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: writer33

GREGOIRE=
Gonna
Rig
Every
Governor's Race
Oppressing
Important military voters
Revote
End it once and for all


49 posted on 01/01/2005 12:39:53 AM PST by enoughalready40
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To: frog_jerk_2004
Gregoire: Washington State's Non-governor elect
50 posted on 01/02/2005 7:49:25 PM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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