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Patton to Troops 1944 (must read) warning: graphic language
Great speeches Timeline ^ | May 17, 1944 | Genl George Patton

Posted on 01/01/2005 9:01:45 AM PST by beebuster2000

NOTE : This speech contains language that may be considered offensive. User discretion is advised.

General George S. Patton, Jr., in characteristic unexpurgated detail, gives his troops a final pep-talk prior to the invasion of Normandy, Enniskillen Manor Grounds, England, May 17, 1944.

Men, this stuff some sources sling around about America wanting to stay out of the war and not wanting to fight is a lot of baloney! Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. America loves a winner. America will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise a coward; Americans play to win. That's why America has never lost and never will lose a war.

You are not all going to die. Only two percent of you, right here today, would be killed in a major battle.

Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all of us. And every man is scared in his first action. If he says he's not, he's a goddamn liar. Some men are cowards, yes, but they fight just the same, or get the hell slammed out of them.

The real hero is the man who fights even though he's scared. Some get over their fright in a minute, under fire; others take an hour; for some it takes days; but a real man will never let the fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty, to his country and to his manhood.

All through your Army careers, you've been bitching about what you call "chicken-shit drills." That, like everything else in the Army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is instant obedience to orders and to create and maintain constant alertness! This must be

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You are not all going to die. Only two percent of you, right here today, [will] be killed in a major battle.

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bred into every soldier. A man must be alert all the time if he expects to stay alive. If not, some German son-of-a-bitch will sneak up behind him with a sock full of shit! There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily, all because one man went to sleep on his job--but they are German graves, because we caught the bastards asleep!

An Army is a team, lives, sleeps, fights, and eats as a team. This individual hero stuff is a lot of horse shit! The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about fucking! Every single man in the Army plays a vital role. Every man has his job to do and must do it. What if every truck driver decided that he didn't like the whine of a shell overhead, turned yellow and jumped headlong into a ditch? What if every man thought, "They won't miss me, just one in millions?" Where in Hell would we be now? Where would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be?

No, thank God, Americans don't think like that. Every man does his job, serves the whole. Ordnance men supply and maintain the guns and vast machinery of this war, to keep us rolling. Quartermasters bring up clothes and food, for where we're going, there isn't a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on K.P. has a job to do, even the guy who boils the water to keep us from getting the G.I. shits!

Remember, men, you don't know I'm here. No mention of that is to be made in any letters. The USA is supposed to be wondering what the hell has happened to me. I'm not supposed to be commanding this Army, I'm not supposed even to be in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the goddamn Germans. I want them to look up and howl, "Ach, it's the goddamn Third Army and that son-of-a-bitch Patton again!"

We want to get this thing over and get the hell out of here, and get at those purple-pissin' Japs!!! The shortest road home is through Berlin and Tokyo! We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by showing the enemy we have more guts than they have or ever will have!

There's one great thing you men can say when it's all over and you're home once more. You can thank God that twenty years from now, when you're sitting around the fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the war, you won't have to shift him to the other knee, cough, and say, "I shoveled shit in Louisiana."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: georgespatton; godsgravesglyphs; kerrynopatton; patton; speech; truehero

1 posted on 01/01/2005 9:01:45 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000
Quite possibly the only article posted more than "I am a Bad American".
2 posted on 01/01/2005 9:04:16 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: beebuster2000

Hard to believe that Gen. Patton and Bubba Clinton were/are both of American 'blood'.


3 posted on 01/01/2005 9:09:40 AM PST by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: DainBramage
Change a few words around and the General's speech is as timely now as it was then!
4 posted on 01/01/2005 9:13:37 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo

Yes his speech is just so... um... politically incorrect is it not?


5 posted on 01/01/2005 9:15:41 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: beebuster2000

We need some Pattons today.


6 posted on 01/01/2005 9:26:33 AM PST by Jackknife ("Always drink upstream from the herd." - Will Rogers)
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To: beebuster2000

The idiot that thought up the Amy of One ads should be very happy that Patton isn't alive.


7 posted on 01/01/2005 9:28:40 AM PST by marty60
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To: beebuster2000

I can only imagine what Patton would do if he had to deal with todays Washington press corps.....

"General Patton, Wolf Blitzer, CNN....."

BLAM!!!!!!!

"Any more questions? No? Thank you....I've got a war to win..."


8 posted on 01/01/2005 9:31:40 AM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: expatguy
Yes his speech is just so... um... politically incorrect is it not?

How dare him for making Louisiana Shit-Shovellers feel lowly.

9 posted on 01/01/2005 9:32:00 AM PST by digger48
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To: DainBramage
And quite possibly, it needs to be...
10 posted on 01/01/2005 9:37:17 AM PST by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: jakkknife
We need some Pattons today.

Can you imagine what he would've done at Fallujah and Sadr City?? Our ass kissing, PC chain of command would've relieved him in 24 hours. Patton was NOT your "new millenium" man.

11 posted on 01/01/2005 9:39:08 AM PST by kimosabe31
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To: beebuster2000; All

This was Posted at the Canteen a couple years ago.

I don't recall who posted it. However I saved the source code just because it is so well done.
Enjoy
J


A Tribute to GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR.

One of the most complicated military men of all time, General George Smith Patton, Jr. was born November 11, 1885 in San Gabriel, California. He was known for carrying ivory pistols and his intemperate manner, and is regarded as one of the most successful United States field commanders of any war. He continually strove to train his troops to the highest standard of excellence.

Patton decided during childhood that his goal in life was to become a hero. His ancestors had fought in the Revolutionary War, the Mexican War and the Civil War, and he grew up listening to stories of their brave and successful endeavors. He attended the Virginia Military Institute for one year and went on to graduate from the United States Military Academy at West Point on June 11, 1909. He was then commissioned a Second Lieutenant in the 15th cavalry Regiment.

Patton married Beatrice Ayer, whom he dated while at West Point, on May 26, 1910. In 1912 he represented the United States at the Stockholm Olympics in the first Modern Pentathlon. Originally open only to military officers, it was considered a rigorous test of the skills a soldier should possess. Twenty-six year old Patton did remarkably well in the multi-event sport, consisting of pistol shooting from 25 meters, sword fencing, a 300 meter free style swim, 800 meters horse back riding and a 4-kilometer cross country run. He placed fifth overall, despite a disappointing development in the shooting portion. While most chose .22 revolvers, Patton felt the event's military roots garnered a more appropriate weapon, the .38. During the competition Patton was docked for missing the target, though he contended the lost bullet had simply passed through a large opening created by previous rounds from the .38, which left considerably larger holes.

After the Olympics, Patton kept busy taking lessons at the French cavalry School and studying French sword drills. In the summer of 1913, Patton received orders to report to the commandant of the Mounted Service School in Fort Riley, Kansas, where he became the school's first Master of the Sword. He designed and taught a course in swordsmanship while he was a student at the school.

Patton's first real exposure to battle occurred when he served as a member of legendary General John J. Pershing's staff during the expedition to Mexico. In 1915, Patton was sent to Fort Bliss along the Mexican border where he led routine cavalry patrols. A year later, he accompanied Pershing as an aide on his expedition against Francisco "Pancho" Villa into Mexico. Patton gained recognition from the press for his attacks on several of Villa's men.

Impressed by Patton's determination, Pershing promoted him to Captain and asked him to command his Headquarters Troop upon their return from Mexico. With the onset of World War I in 1914, tanks were not being widely used. In 1917, however, Patton became the first member of the newly established United States Tank Corps, where he served until the Corps were abolished in 1920. He took full command of the Corps, directing ideas, procedures and even the design of their uniforms. Along with the British tankers, he and his men achieved victory at Cambrai, France, during the world's first major tank battle in 1917.

Using his first-hand knowledge of tanks, Patton organized the American tank school in Bourg, France and trained the first 500 American tankers. He had 345 tanks by the time he took the brigade into the Meuse-Argonne Operation in September 1918. When they entered into battle, Patton had worked out a plan where he could be in the front lines maintaining communications with his rear command post by means of pigeons and a group of runners. Patton continually exposed himself to gunfire and was shot once in the leg while he was directing the tanks. His actions during that battle earned him the Distinguished Service Cross for Heroism, one of the many medals he would collect during his lifetime.

An outspoken advocate for tanks, Patton saw them as the future of modern combat.
Congress, however, was not willing to appropriate funds to build a large armored force. Even so, Patton studied, wrote extensively and carried out experiments to improve radio communications between tanks. He also helped invent the co-axial tank mount for cannons and machine guns.

After WWI, Patton held a variety of staff jobs in Hawaii and Washington, D.C. He graduated from the Command and General Staff School in 1924, and completed his military schooling as a distinguished graduate of the Army War College in 1932.

When the German Blitzkrieg began on Europe, Patton finally convinced Congress that the United States needed a more powerful armored striking force. With the formation of the Armored Force in 1940, he was transferred to the Second Armored Division at Fort Benning, Georgia and named Commanding General on April 11, 1941. Two months later, Patton appeared on the cover of Life magazine. Also during this time, Patton began giving his famous "Blood and Guts" speeches in an amphitheater he had built to accommodate the entire division.

The United States officially entered World War II in December 1941, after the attack on Pearl Harbor. By November 8, 1942, Patton was commanding the Western Task Force, the only all-American force landing for Operation Torch, the Allied invasion of North Africa. After succeeding there, Patton commanded the Seventh Army during the invasion of Sicily in July 1943, and in conjunction with the British Eighth Army restored Sicily to its citizens.

Patton commanded the Seventh Army until March 1944, when he was given command of the Third Army in France. Patton and his troops dashed across Europe after the battle of Normandy and exploited German weaknesses with great success, covering the 600 miles across France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria and Czechoslovakia. When the Third Army liberated the Buchenwald concentration camp, Patton slowed his pace. He instituted a policy, later adopted by other commanders, of making local German civilians tour the camps. By the time WWII was over, the Third Army had liberated or conquered 81,522 square miles of territory.

In October 1945, Patton assumed command of the Fifteenth Army in
American-occupied Germany. On December 9, he suffered injuries as the result of an automobile accident. He died 12 days later, on December 21, 1945 and is buried among the soldiers who died in the Battle of the Bulge in Hamm, Luxembourg.

Remembered for his fierce determination and ability to lead soldiers, Patton is now considered one of the greatest military figures in history. The 1970 film, "Patton," starring George C. Scott in the title role, provoked renewed interest in Patton. The movie won seven Academy Awards, including Best Actor and Best Picture, and immortalized General George Smith Patton, Jr. as one of the world's most intriguing military men.

 



Above is the famous "Patton Prayer" sent to the men of the Third Army,
December 8, 1944.


 
GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. QUOTATIONS

"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week."

“A good solution applied with vigor now is better than a perfect solution applied ten minutes later.”

"America loves a winner, and will not tolerate a loser, this is why America has never, and will never, lose a war.”

“A pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood.”

“By perseverance, study, and eternal desire, any man can become great.”

“Do everything you ask of those you command.”

“Do more than is required of you.”

“Do not take counsel of your fears.”

“Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity.”

“Good tactics can save even the worst strategy. Bad tactics will destroy even the best strategy.”

“I always believe in being prepared, even when I'm dressed in white tie and tails.”

“I am a soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight.”

“If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.”

“If I do my full duty, the rest will take care of itself.”

“In case of doubt, attack.”

“It’s the unconquerable soul of man, not the nature of the weapon he uses, that insures victory.”

“Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way. ”

“Live for something rather than die for nothing.”

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.”

“Moral courage is the most valuable and usually the most absent characteristic in men.”

“Never let the enemy pick the battle site.”

“No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.”

“Say what you mean and mean what you say.”

“Success is how you bounce on the bottom.”

“The leader must be an actor."

“The soldier is the army.”

“There is only one type of discipline, perfect discipline.”

“War is simple, direct, and ruthless.”

“Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men.”

“You’re never beaten until you admit it.”

“You shouldn't underestimate an enemy, but it is just as fatal to overestimate him.”

"Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tire, more hungry. Keep punching."

"In landing operations, retreat is impossible, to surrender is as ignoble as it is foolish… above all else remember that we as attackers have the initiative, we know exactly what we are going to do, while the enemy is ignorant of our intentions and can only parry our blows. We must retain this tremendous advantage by always attacking rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, and without rest."

"An Army is a team; lives, sleeps, eats, fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is a lot of crap."

"War is the supreme test of man in which he rises to heights never approached in any other activity."

"No sane man is unafraid in battle, but discipline produces in him a form of vicarious courage."

"A man must know his destiny… if he does not recognize it, then he is lost. By this I mean, once, twice, or at the very most, three times, fate will reach out and tap a man on the shoulder… if he has the imagination, he will turn around and fate will point out to him what fork in the road he should take, if he has the guts, he will take it."

"In war the only sure defense is offense, and the efficiency of the offense depends on the warlike souls of those conducting it."

"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity."

"Wars might be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory."

"… many, who should know better, think that wars can be decided by soulless machines, rather than by the blood and anguish of brave men."

"Tanks are new and special weapon-newer than, as special, and certainly as valuable as the airplane."

"An incessant change of means to attain unalterable ends is always going on; we must take care not to let these sundry means undue eminence in the perspective of our minds; for, since the beginning, there has been an unending cycle of them, and for each its advocates have claimed adoption as the sole solution of successful war."

"Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets."

"The obvious thing for the cavalryman to do is to accept the fighting machine as a partner, and prepare to meet more fully the demands of future warfare."

"Many soldiers are led to faulty ideas of war by knowing too much about too little."





General Patton's Address to the Troops before the commencement of Operation Overlord.


"Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons.

First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players.

Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American.You are not all going to die. Only two percent of you right here today would die in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all men. Yes, every man is scared in his first battle. If he says he's not, he's a liar. Some men are cowards but they fight the same as the brave men or they get the hell slammed out of them watching men fight who are just as scared as they are.

The real hero is the man who fights even though he is scared. Some men get over their fright in a minute under fire. For some, it takes an hour. For some, it takes days. But a real man will never let his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood. Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best and it removes all that is base. Americans pride themselves on being He Men and they ARE He Men. Remember that the enemy is just as frightened as you are, and probably more so. They are not supermen.

All through your Army careers, you men have bitched about what you call "chicken shit drilling". That, like everything else in this Army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is alertness. Alertness must be bred into every soldier. I don't give a fuck for a man who's not always on his toes. You men are veterans or you wouldn't be here. You are ready for what's to come. A man must be alert at all times if he expects to stay alive. If you're not alert, sometime, a German son-of-an-asshole-bitch is going to sneak up behind you and beat you to death with a sockful of shit!" There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily, all because one man went to sleep on the job. But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did.

An Army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horse shit. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about fucking! We have the finest food, the finest equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world. Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-bitches we're going up against. By God, I do."My men don't surrender. I don't want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back. That's not just bull shit either.

The kind of man that I want in my command is just like the lieutenant in Libya, who, with a Luger against his chest, jerked off his helmet, swept the gun aside with one hand, and busted the hell out of the Kraut with his helmet. Then he jumped on the gun and went out and killed another German before they knew what the hell was coming off. And, all of that time, this man had a bullet through a lung. There was a real man!
All of the real heroes are not storybook combat fighters, either. Every single man in this Army plays a vital role. Don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain. What if every truck driver suddenly decided that he didn't like the whine of those shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into a ditch? The cowardly bastard could say, "Hell, they won't miss me, just one man in thousands". But, what if every man thought that way? Where in the hell would we be now? What would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be like? No, Goddamnit, Americans don't think like that. Every man does his job. Every man serves the whole. Every department, every unit, is important in the vast scheme of this war.

The ordnance men are needed to supply the guns and machinery of war to keep us rolling. The Quartermaster is needed to bring up food and clothes because where we are going there isn't a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on K.P. has a job to do, even the one who heats our water to keep us from getting the 'G.I. Shits'. Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men.

One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, "Fixing the wire, Sir". I asked, "Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?" He answered, "Yes Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed". I asked, "Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?" And he answered, "No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!" Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds.

And you should have seen those trucks on the rode to Tunisia. Those drivers were magnificent. All day and all night they rolled over those son-of-a-bitching roads, never stopping, never faltering from their course, with shells bursting all around them all of the time. We got through on good old American guts. Many of those men drove for over forty consecutive hours. These men weren't combat men, but they were soldiers with a job to do. They did it, and in one hell of a way they did it. They were part of a team. Without team effort, without them, the fight would have been lost. All of the links in the chain pulled together and the chain became unbreakable.

Don't forget, you men don't know that I'm here. No mention of that fact is to be made in any letters. The world is not supposed to know what the hell happened to me. I'm not supposed to be commanding this Army. I'm not even supposed to be here in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the Goddamned Germans. Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, 'Jesus Christ, it's the Goddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-fucking-bitch Patton'."

We want to get the hell over there. The quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit. Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin, I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!

When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that.

We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living shit out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like shit through a tin horn! From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that.

There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Georgie Patton!"


12 posted on 01/01/2005 9:40:33 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: kimosabe31
Can you imagine what he would've done at Fallujah and Sadr City?? Our ass kissing, PC chain of command would've relieved him in 24 hours. Patton was NOT your "new millenium" man.

Oh, I know he would be slammed in today's world. Wishful thinking on my part, I guess.

13 posted on 01/01/2005 9:42:52 AM PST by Jackknife ("Always drink upstream from the herd." - Will Rogers)
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To: beebuster2000

"We want to get the hell over there", Patton continued, "The quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit."

Gen. George Patton
June 5, 1944
England

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


14 posted on 01/01/2005 9:44:11 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: digger48

"How dare him for making Louisiana Shit-Shovelers feel lowly."

Counselors are being sent to Louisiana to tend to the crushed feelings local shit shovelers!


15 posted on 01/01/2005 9:48:02 AM PST by lawdude (Leftists see what they believe. Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: beebuster2000

Dang I love this guy! He found his true calling as a General.
He was born to kick butt!


16 posted on 01/01/2005 9:57:47 AM PST by derllak
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To: beebuster2000

so....which part contains the offensive graphic language ?


17 posted on 01/01/2005 9:58:52 AM PST by stylin19a (Marines - end of discussion)
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To: beebuster2000

That last paragraph sounds dead nuts on like the epidome of the Democratic party over the past several decades!


18 posted on 01/01/2005 10:05:30 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: kellynla

"....clean out their nest...."


The world is filled with nests, the war has only begun.


19 posted on 01/01/2005 10:09:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jakkknife

Man, WHAT has happened to us in the last 60 years!
The Iraq war would be over by now if we had a few Pattons
in charge, both there and earlier in the overall planning
for how to deal with the enemy/


20 posted on 01/01/2005 10:14:03 AM PST by willyboyishere
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To: jakkknife
Oh, I know he would be slammed in today's world.

He was slammed in the WWII world, too.  Long before he slapped a soldier in a medical tent many of his peers thought he was a loon.  After the war they still thought he was a loon, but they sure as heck were glad he was their loon!

While the 36th ID was in training in Massachusetts, Patton stopped by and asked to speak to the officers.  They assembled and Patton, who believed the 36th would be part of a Corps under his command, gave one of those vulgarity punctuated speeches a lot of us seem to love so much.  The 36th's officers were not impressed.  Quite the opposite. They were quite happy to see him go on his way and happier still not to be placed under his command.

Later, when the sane, calculating Mark Clark wasted two regiments of the 36th on a Gallipoli style river crossing at the Rapido, I sometimes wonder whether some of the surviving officers wished Crazy George, and not Mark Clark, was running the war in Italy.

21 posted on 01/01/2005 10:42:20 AM PST by Racehorse
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22 posted on 01/01/2005 10:45:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: jakkknife

Yup. Compare this with Rumsfeld's speech a few weeks back: "You go to war with the army you have, not the army you'd like to have..." I'm sure that was inspiring beyond belief.

We need some Pattons to take charge of Iraq!


23 posted on 01/01/2005 11:53:12 AM PST by pickemuphere
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To: beebuster2000

bump


24 posted on 01/01/2005 12:02:58 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: SunkenCiv
Patton was also way ahead of his time in introducing cardio work outs for the troops..he instituted a novel peacetime training practice: running.

He also launched what is now called The National Training Center in the desert in California...

When there was not sufficient equipment he had officers tie stove pipes to the hoods to trucks to simulate tanks...

He was probably working more on radio control of the troops as mentioned in the top post.

Basically, Patton was 50 years ahead of his time...too bad the Army has maintained their tradition of promoting careful faggots for officers.

Pio - Cavalry Scout, (SP4 retired).

25 posted on 01/01/2005 12:03:35 PM PST by Pio (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus)
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To: Thumper1960
"Hard to believe that Gen. Patton and Bubba Clinton were/are both of American 'blood'."

Weak, indecisive, ineffective, liberal males like "Bubba Clinton", et.al., are the quintessential examples of what is referred to by this phrase: "The feminization of America".

26 posted on 01/01/2005 12:05:23 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: marty60
Here's what Patton thought of "the Army of One". Thankfully he left us his opinion. Here 'tis:

"An Army is a team; lives, sleeps, eats, fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is a lot of crap."

27 posted on 01/01/2005 12:19:31 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: Pio
...too bad the Army has maintained their tradition of promoting careful faggots for officers...

Reminds me of what I'd read about some U.S. sub commanders at the outbreak of W.W.II

Several were "cashiered" (canned, fired, etc.) because they simply weren't aggressive enough.

They were quickly replaced by guys with big brass ones, and the rest (as they say) is history.

28 posted on 01/01/2005 12:22:57 PM PST by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: beebuster2000
A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week.

Hmm, isn't that the kind of talk that got Rummy into trouble a few weeks ago?

29 posted on 01/01/2005 12:25:12 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Couldn't you have stopped shooting at us and watched your baby grow instead?)
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To: marty60

"The idiot that thought up the Army of One ads should be very happy that Patton isn't alive."

It's the only way to get the socialists to pull their own weight. You have to make the military look as if it's "all about ME!" ;)

Great, great speech! Is there a link for the "I Am a Bad American" essay referenced to above? Thank! :)


30 posted on 01/01/2005 12:28:53 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: jakkknife

We have them...the MSM just won't cover them unless they say something that the MSM can spin into a gaff.


31 posted on 01/01/2005 12:34:44 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Redleg Duke
We have them...the MSM just won't cover them unless they say something that the MSM can spin into a gaff.

Or a war crime.

Seymour Hersh, most recently of Abu Ghraib infamy, tried to do a number on Barry McCaffery concerning a Gulf War I engagement between the 24th Infantry Division and a so-called retreating Iraqi tank division in the vicinity of Rumaylah.  Though a cease fire was in effect, the Iraqis made the fatal mistake of firing on the 24th.  General McCaffery then ordered the 24th to respond in force.  The Iraqi tank division was quite literally destroyed.  Hersh spun the engagement into a war crime accusation published in detail by The New Yorker.

32 posted on 01/01/2005 1:18:14 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: jakkknife

A couple of "Black Jack" Pershings too, wouldn't you say?


33 posted on 01/01/2005 1:18:44 PM PST by NC Native ("Bombing begins in five minutes"... Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: jakkknife

Absolutely!!!


34 posted on 01/01/2005 1:26:33 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Fiddlstix

That Eagle looks REALLY pissed. Since it is War, He has a right to be po'd.


35 posted on 01/01/2005 4:35:03 PM PST by marty60
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To: Racehorse

Well my Mother has often told me that the American people LOVED Patton. Guess who didn't like him......THE MSM.


36 posted on 01/01/2005 4:41:34 PM PST by marty60
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Weird, I have been here sine 98 and I can't remember reading it. Ah yes, the ME Generation.


37 posted on 01/01/2005 4:44:45 PM PST by marty60
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To: Matchett-PI
The Chauvinistic Pig movement did that little number on our men. Funny I like having a door held open for me, or the Good Day Ma'am, thing makes me feel great. Oh well.
38 posted on 01/01/2005 4:48:12 PM PST by marty60
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To: marty60
Well my Mother has often told me that the American people LOVED Patton. Guess who didn't like him......THE MSM.

Wael, I'm not about to contradict your mother.

I can tell you there were more than a few now Great Grandfathers who didn't love him or like him.  Neither emotion was required to do the job they did.  And, none of them were part of the MSM, then or now.  :-)

Me?  I liked the movie version.  A lot.

39 posted on 01/01/2005 5:12:46 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse
What was that line in the movie, when Patton said his Army would reach the men in the Ardeinnes? The Gens were laughing, that Pattons men loved him sarcastically. Patton said no they don't love me, they will do what they were trained to do. Can't remember the actual line.

My Mother told me the reason the fams loved him, is because if their loved one was going to come home, Patton was the man they trusted to make that happen. he wasn't in a popularity contest. He was going to win a War.

40 posted on 01/01/2005 5:24:03 PM PST by marty60
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To: The Drowning Witch
I can only imagine what Patton would do if he had to deal with today's Washington press corps.....

The press corp of WWII hated Patton. They cost him his command after he slapped a slacker for saying he was too scared to fight. They cost Patton his command in Germany after World War II was over.

Drew Pearson, was a leftist sexually challenged columnist who hated George Patton. He was the media star they a used to take down George Patton after his great victories in Africa and Sicily.

The main stream media took down Patton again after Germany was defeated. The second time they got him for using former Nazis to run Germany after WWII and for not sucking up to Stalin and his Communist buddies.

A WWII correspondent who never missed a chance to trash Patton in his reports was a young CBS War Correspondent named Andy Rooney. You may have seen him on Sixty Minutes a time or two. He was as big and as stupid an a$$ in world war II as he is today.

41 posted on 01/01/2005 6:31:51 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator

GRANDFATHER-

COL.GEORGE S.PATTON,I
22ND VIRGINIA INFANTRY REGIMENT,CSA
KIA,WINCHESTER,VA. 1864


42 posted on 01/01/2005 7:33:36 PM PST by hillyes
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To: beebuster2000
And if you couple this speech by Patton with the speech from the same website by Charles Lindbergh on Apr. 23, 1941, you will see that most DemonRats are saying similar things today about the war in Iraq. There were panzies then, and there are panzies today. I do indeed thank God that George Patton wasnt a panzy...
43 posted on 01/01/2005 7:48:30 PM PST by Vanman
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To: beebuster2000

Patton - great man and leader of men.

I enjoy the film often and some might be interested in the blooper in that:


http://www.storypundit.com/archives/002198.html


44 posted on 01/01/2005 7:48:38 PM PST by eleni121 (Xronia polla! 4 more years and then 4 more again.)
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To: beebuster2000

A wonderful tribute to General Patton here as well. Includes many of his quotes.

http://www.pattonhq.com/unknown/chap13.html


45 posted on 01/01/2005 7:55:17 PM PST by eleni121 (Xronia polla! 4 more years and then 4 more again.)
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To: pickemuphere

Sorry for the month-later reply here, but I had to point something out...

Rumsfeld's "you go to war with the army you have" fits in quite nicely with Patton's entire idea of war--go now, not later. Attack now, not later. "A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." While "the army you have" isn't inspiring, it wasn't meant to be--it was a response to a question from an already-inspired soldier who was coached by a journalist.


46 posted on 02/02/2005 4:31:22 PM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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