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Literally earth-shaking, Tsunami quake shifted the North Pole, moved Newark, NJ, 1/2 inch
The Newark Star Ledger ^ | 12.31.04

Posted on 01/01/2005 9:38:48 PM PST by Coleus

Beyond killing tens of thousands and unleashing a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions, the twinned earthquake and tsunami that struck Southeast Asia Sunday altered the angle of the Earth on its axis, moved the North Pole, pushed walls of water throughout all the world's oceans and shifted the soil as far away as Newark, researchers are reporting.

Scientists said yesterday they are looking beyond the tragedy to try to extract meaning from an event of such magnitude. They want to learn how the Earth responds as a system to one of Nature's terrible jolts. And they wonder about the Earth's resilience.

Calculations performed by Richard Gross of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California show that the quake sped up the rotation of the Earth and enlarged its wobble, causing the length of a day to shrink permanently by 3 millionths of a second. It also moved the North Pole 1 inch, he found.

Researchers at the Lamont-Doherty facility in New York, part of Columbia University, have been tracking earthquakes for decades and say their instruments showed that the quake rang the Earth like a bell. Seismic waves emanated from the epicenter, like ripples moving out from a pebble thrown onto a pond surface.

Armbruster, the Lamont-Doherty seismologist, said that, though he hasn't completed his analysis, he believes the quake moved the soil in the Newark and greater metropolitan area by a half- inch. The temblor on the other side of the world pushed the ground up that far, then back down the same distance. The movement was so swift, it was not noticed by residents of the region, he said.

A well-studied 1964 quake in Alaska of a greater magnitude moved the ground in New York up 2 inches and then down 2 inches, he said.

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Can a Tsunami hit New Jersey? Can the Continental Shelf stop it? And what kind of provisions, alert system and emergency plan does the NJ State Police, National Guard, Port Authority, municipal and county Police and US Coast Guard have planned. Call them up this week and find out, I bet they have none.

1 posted on 01/01/2005 9:38:49 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

The sky is falling.


2 posted on 01/01/2005 9:41:41 PM PST by Rightone
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To: Coleus

The continental shelf would probably make it worse...not stop it..

Unfortunately with something that has apparently changed the Earth is such a way, you have to think that eventually everything will to back to the way it was. Will it take another big quake to do so?

that is the question...


3 posted on 01/01/2005 9:41:47 PM PST by MikefromOhio (9 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hot dogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: Rightone

So is Newark now 1/2 inch closer to heaven or further away from it?


4 posted on 01/01/2005 9:43:13 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

farther, not further.


5 posted on 01/01/2005 9:44:57 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

a 1/2 inch further down the toilet. But don't worry, they're building an arena which will solve everything.


6 posted on 01/01/2005 9:45:34 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 125,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: Coleus

Santa falls down and go boo...


7 posted on 01/01/2005 9:45:42 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: Coleus
Calculations performed by Richard Gross of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California show that the quake sped up the rotation of the Earth and enlarged its wobble, causing the length of a day to shrink permanently by 3 millionths of a second.

Does this mean my employer will dock my pay for the shorter day?

8 posted on 01/01/2005 9:45:55 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Coleus

I wonder what these changes do or do not do to oil production around the world.


9 posted on 01/01/2005 9:47:14 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Free Scott Peterson!!! In Iraq. Wearing an "Allah is the Devil" tee shirt.)
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To: MikeinIraq

If you believe in the science of plate tectonics, things will never go back the way they were at a previous time, but there will always be continuous change.


10 posted on 01/01/2005 9:47:38 PM PST by nhoward14 (Frodo failed. Hillary has the One Ring.)
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To: nhoward14

you see I think it is more of a give and take type thing....

A pressure release in one sector might cause pressure to build up in another....

maybe....


11 posted on 01/01/2005 9:51:45 PM PST by MikefromOhio (9 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hot dogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: Coleus
And what kind of provisions, alert system and emergency plan does the NJ State Police, National Guard, Port Authority, municipal and county Police and US Coast Guard have planned.

Just as important, what do you have planned for you and your family for such contingencies? And our neighbors? Do you ever wonder if we aren't becoming too dependent on the state?

FGS

12 posted on 01/01/2005 9:53:18 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: FreedomCalls

Just what I needed. I don't have enough time in my day to get all my work done already, and now it's shorter.


13 posted on 01/01/2005 9:54:07 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Coleus
moved Newark, NJ, 1/2 inch

Prompting Jim McGreevy to ask his Sex Toy du Jour, "Was it good for you?"

14 posted on 01/01/2005 9:54:59 PM PST by martin_fierro (IMHO)
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To: Coleus
If a 9.0 mag. quake can shift the earth's axis, then isn't it entirely plausible that the prehistoric 'big boom' could have also shifted the axis, thus not only starting the ice age, but also shifting the axis so much that once fertile lands (possibly Antarctica) were also shifted?

What if the entire theory of the break up of Pangea (or Gondwanaland) is wrong? What if the continents drifted differently and the big boom shifted the continents to where they are now by altering the original axis???

15 posted on 01/01/2005 9:56:55 PM PST by rintense
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To: Coleus

This is a joke, right?


16 posted on 01/01/2005 9:59:47 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: MikeinIraq

Possibly, but the geological evidence I seen doesn't support that theory. As an amateur example, the Atlantic Ridge is spreading apart, a horizontal movement, while the Pacific Ring of Fire has more of a vertical movement.

If anything the Atlantic Ridge is pushing on the North American and Asian plates and forcing them on top of each other, like a VW Beetle running underneath a semi tractor trailer.

Then again, I am an electrical engineer and my knowledge of geology, etc. comes from Discover Magazine and The Learning Channel, so your mileage may vary.


17 posted on 01/01/2005 10:00:09 PM PST by nhoward14 (Frodo failed. Hillary has the One Ring.)
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To: FreedomCalls
Does this mean my employer will dock my pay for the shorter day?

If you work for Dell, the answer is yes - your pay will be reduced.

18 posted on 01/01/2005 10:02:00 PM PST by PokeyJoe (YMMV)
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To: Coleus

A 3ms change in the earth's spin rate will likely play h*ll with all manner of satellite tracking and timing, including GPS, I would imagine. I can only imagine all the software changes and adjustments that will have to be made for all of the satellites the world uses.


19 posted on 01/01/2005 10:02:16 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: Windcatcher

I meant to say 3us rate change...


20 posted on 01/01/2005 10:03:06 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: Coleus

21 posted on 01/01/2005 10:07:28 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: rintense

What on earth do you mean by "big boom?"


22 posted on 01/01/2005 10:08:22 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: MikeinIraq
I agree. Plate techtonics is nothing more than a series of puzzle pieces. My theory is also that the energy wave an initially strong quake can be tracked across a plate, and that with distance, the intensity decreases. There were a series of quakes this year that demonstrated this. The initial quake started in the pacific, and the energy traveled from west to east, causing smaller quakes, each decreasing in magnitude, the greater the distance from the origin.

Basically, its all one energy chain reaction.

23 posted on 01/01/2005 10:09:58 PM PST by rintense
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To: Windcatcher

You know what that means to me... an economic spike in the tech sector as all the out of work software engineers are hired to fix all the programs.... maybe.


24 posted on 01/01/2005 10:11:02 PM PST by nhoward14 (Frodo failed. Hillary has the One Ring.)
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To: isthisnickcool

I wonder what these changes do or do not do to oil production around the world.

I wonder what it will do to the GPS, those pre-quake, do those need to be updated, or will the satelites change it for us? I have software in my GPS around the world, was the change miniscule enough not to matter, or do I need updated software?


25 posted on 01/01/2005 10:12:04 PM PST by Ethyl
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To: Strategerist

Sorry, the large asteroid that his the earth and caused the dinos to go bye bye. Makes me wonder if, indeed, the pseudo nuclear winter-like result of the impact wasn't so much from the debris in the atmosphere as it was from an axis shift.


26 posted on 01/01/2005 10:12:42 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense

There isn't much doubt that Antarctica was in a different angle at one point, and a fertile land. The timing of when this occurred is questionable...but there isn't much doubt about this. But this tilt business is not an absolute thing...any number of earthquakes or meteors hitting the earth, can twist the angle slighly.

Just point into your mind a what-if situation. What if...four massive earthquakes occured within 24 hours and the tilt of the earth went south 2 degrees? The north pole would be nearer to Cold Lake, Canada...NY would be in the prevsious climate region of Montreal...Miami would move up on the climate location of North Florida and see more freezes. It doesn't take alot to make this scenario occur.


27 posted on 01/01/2005 10:15:25 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Coleus

The East Coast is not in danger of tsunamis from earthquakes because the Atlantic doesn't have the plates sliding against each other like the Pacific has. I read that the biggest danger is from a landslide. It would have be be a HUGH one, but one thread earlier in the week mentioned a big chunk of the Canary Islands that loosened because of a volcanic eruption. If it goes, it could cause a tsunami that could threaten the Boston-New York coastline.


28 posted on 01/01/2005 10:15:43 PM PST by SuziQ (It's the most wonderful time of the year!)
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To: Coleus; genefromjersey; Turk82_1; freeperfromnj

ping


29 posted on 01/01/2005 10:22:35 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus
Calculations performed by Richard Gross of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California show that the quake sped up the rotation of the Earth and enlarged its wobble, causing the length of a day to shrink permanently by 3 millionths of a second.

FWIW, this is wrong. The rotation speed of the Earth is not a constant. It changes, mostly it slows down. But have no fear, Angular momentum is conserved even in the Meadowlands.

30 posted on 01/01/2005 10:24:30 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SuziQ
The East Coast is not in danger of tsunamis from earthquakes because the Atlantic doesn't have the plates sliding against each other like the Pacific has. I read that the biggest danger is from a landslide. It would have be be a HUGH one, but one thread earlier in the week mentioned a big chunk of the Canary Islands that loosened because of a volcanic eruption. If it goes, it could cause a tsunami that could threaten the Boston-New York coastline.

Hmm. Well, a lot of the above is sort of inaccurate or misleading, not your fault, largely due to the media, and some poor explanations from scientists I saw interviewed right after the Sumatra quake.

The Atlantic has plenty of plate boundaries. The main one, the Mid-Atlantic ridge between the Eurasian Plate and the North American Plate, is a spreading ridge where ocean bottom is created. The earthquakes there are relatively small and do not generate tsunamis.

In 1755 Lisbon Portugal was destroyed by a massive earthquake (Magnitude 8.7) and tsunami in the Atlantic that killed 50,000 plus people and changed world history.

It's unclear precisely where it orginated but it's related to the complex boundary of the Eurasian and African plates out in the Atlantic. Records were poor in North America in 1755 but there was a tsunami of some significance in North America from it. That quake or a similar one could happen again.

27 people were killed in Newfoundland in 1929 by an underwater quake that caused an underwater landslide, which then created a tsunami (the landslide also cut the transatlantic cables.) It's possible that landslides could occur on the continental shelf at any time, but fortunately they seem fairly rare.

The main reason the Pacific has so many more tsunami is it's filled with long "Subduction" zones where one plate dives under another. There's only one in the North Atlantic, between the Carribean and the Atlantic. This is still capable of generating tsunamis but it's a shorter zone and doesn't have the massive quakes possible underwater in the Pacific. However there have been very damaging tsunami in the Carribean; Port Royal Jamaica was wiped off the face of the earth by one in the 1700s.

Most tsunami experts believe a collapse of La Palma in the Canaries would cause a local tsunami but NOT one that could cause damage in North America. Unfortunately the media has seized on the couple of scientists that think it can like rabid dogs, and ignored the majority of scientists that disagree.

31 posted on 01/01/2005 10:26:23 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: BIGLOOK

>>>This is a joke, right?

Yes. Coleus and I live in the joke of the USA.

Actually, it is more than likely posturing propaganda for that federal AID NJ wants to fund their Stem Cell research disguised as some type of 'relief fund'.


32 posted on 01/01/2005 10:26:34 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Ethyl
I wonder what it will do to the GPS, those pre-quake, do those need to be updated, or will the satelites change it for us? I have software in my GPS around the world, was the change miniscule enough not to matter, or do I need updated software?

The GPS satellites can receive updates from ground stations to adjust ephemeris data. I just received notification from Delorme with updated magnetic declination files for all my mapping products (Street Atlas USA 2003-2004). The north pole has moved enough that current software products and printed maps show an incorrect magnetic north deviation. Those updates were announced BEFORE the quake.

33 posted on 01/01/2005 10:31:17 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Coleus
Armbruster, the Lamont-Doherty seismologist, said that, though he hasn't completed his analysis, he believes the quake moved the soil in the Newark and greater metropolitan area by a half- inch. The temblor on the other side of the world pushed the ground up that far, then back down the same distance. The movement was so swift, it was not noticed by residents of the region, he said.

The "swifter" the motion, the more kinetic energy it would have (not the less) and thus the more jarring. Doesn't seem to compute.

34 posted on 01/01/2005 10:33:07 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Calpernia
I was worried that you'd unintentionally moved and would have to pay NY state taxes. Boston, however, is going to beat you out of the federal aid; Boston's $14 billion Big Dig is creating an inland flood.

Maybe the cod fishermen will move back to town.

35 posted on 01/01/2005 10:37:27 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Coleus
causing the length of a day to shrink permanently by 3 millionths of a second

Not too impressive. This means that 2006 will arrive 1 millisecond sooner than it otherwise would have, and 3006 will arrive 1 second sooner. We won't gain a whole day from this until 80 million years from now.

Another way to look at it: The earth's rotation period is slowing by 15 microseconds per year due to tidal friction with the moon; so the quake had the effect of undoing about 10 weeks' worth of tidal friction. In 100 million years the day will be about 24 hours and 25 minutes long. (This means that at the time of the first dinosaurs, the day was 23 hours long.)

36 posted on 01/01/2005 10:38:13 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: SuziQ

Oops the Port Royal Jamaica tsunami was in 1692, not the 1700s.


37 posted on 01/01/2005 10:41:55 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: BIGLOOK

>>>I was worried that you'd unintentionally moved and would have to pay NY state taxes.

Now you had to go and give ideas! /teasing

Anything to give us more taxes ;)

>>>Boston, however, is going to beat you out of the federal aid; Boston's $14 billion Big Dig is creating an inland flood.

Don't worry. Our Statesmen can out temper tantrum their statesmen /wiza gurl

>>>Maybe the cod fishermen will move back to town.

Now that will get me off topic. I've not gone for cod yet and that is one of my favorite fish. I will make an effort to do this since PETA is screaming for fish to have equal rights now /hee hee

I'm off to bed.

You have a great night BigLook!


38 posted on 01/01/2005 10:47:08 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus
This story is so much B.S. The quake and tsunami combo was comparable to a speck of dust floating onto a beach ball
39 posted on 01/01/2005 10:50:30 PM PST by timestax
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To: VeritatisSplendor
We won't gain a whole day from this until 80 million years from now.

Thanks for crunching the numbers! heehee

40 posted on 01/01/2005 10:51:42 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: BIGLOOK

---Boston's $14 billion Big Dig is creating an inland flood---

Aren't those machines they use to dig come from France? Are the French back in the canal business? I think there was a big write-up in National Geo about what cutting edge civil engineering was underway.


41 posted on 01/01/2005 10:54:27 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: jwalsh07
Angular momentum is conserved, but that doesn't mean the quake didn't change the rotation speed -- if the result was a "settling" of the ocean floor the moment of inertia would shrink and the rotation would speed up.

Of course the tidal friction with the moon changes the earth's rotation speed because it is the angular momentum of the entire earth-moon system that is conserved -- although the rotation slows down, the moon gets correspondingly further away (3 millimeters further away every month). At the time of the first dinosaurs, 250 million years ago, the moon was 5 or 6 thousand miles closer (which is still a small change compared to the current variation in the moon's distance from earth -- annular eclipses were still possible then, and total eclipses will still be possible for another 500 million years).

42 posted on 01/01/2005 10:54:42 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Coleus

People trying to impress us with how smart they are.
I'm not buying any of this information. They don't
know all of the factors and are just speculating...


43 posted on 01/01/2005 10:54:48 PM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: Myrddin
Those updates were announced BEFORE the quake.

AHA!, that must mean something ..but what?!

44 posted on 01/01/2005 10:56:12 PM PST by timestax
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To: Calpernia
Fish have rights. People have fishing rights!

Good night, Calpernia.

45 posted on 01/01/2005 10:56:40 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

ping


46 posted on 01/01/2005 10:56:41 PM PST by timestax
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To: Coleus

It must be global warming -- brought on by Bush and the evil capitalists! =)


47 posted on 01/01/2005 10:57:27 PM PST by Jew4GWB (Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in.)
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To: snopercod

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/savageearth/hellscrust/


48 posted on 01/01/2005 10:58:51 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: jwalsh07

I believe the rotation of earth could speed up if the high points on earth slid into low points. It would be like a skater who draws in his arms to accelerate the spin.


49 posted on 01/01/2005 10:59:43 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Coleus; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
50 posted on 01/01/2005 11:00:43 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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