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So What Happened in That Election, Anyhow? (NYT rips Democrats!)
New York Times ^ | 1/2/05 | ADAM NAGOURNEY

Posted on 01/01/2005 9:40:05 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: upchuck
Everytime a program came up, sKerry said, "I've got a plan."

Problem was, nobody knew what his plan was.

61 posted on 01/02/2005 1:27:34 AM PST by Angry Republican (Screw the Sun! Ehrlich in '06!)
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To: wagglebee

Did anyone else notice that the NY Slimes and others were using "exit polls" to analyze why Kerry lost? IIRC, the exit polls were proven to be wildly innacurate. I hope thay continue to use them!

It seems to me that the #1 plank on the "Kerry Platform" was "I'm not Bush!" Hard to elect somebody with that message.

Mark


62 posted on 01/02/2005 1:55:09 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: wagglebee

These dumb klunks don't know what hit them. As the Democrats sink deeper and deeper into the sewer, where they belong, the future of the Republicans looks brighter and brighter!


63 posted on 01/02/2005 2:08:31 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: wagglebee
"I love it when the left starts eating their own!"

Yes. Like trapped rats.

This bunch of sociopaths, loosers, parasites, and predators will throw one another to the sharks as fast as the wind changes.

64 posted on 01/02/2005 2:13:24 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: wagglebee; 82Marine89
"That may be the best one I have ever seen!!!"

It's the thought that counts!

--Boot Hill

65 posted on 01/02/2005 2:18:48 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Angry Republican
Everytime a program came up, sKerry said, "I've got a plan."

Problem was, nobody knew what his plan was.

Least of all, Kerry

66 posted on 01/02/2005 2:23:35 AM PST by Wingy
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To: Felis_irritable
"We know who we are. We know what we stand for."

So do the American people. That's why you lost the election.

"We'll make it clearer in the non-presidential election year what the differences are between the Democrats and the Republicans."

Oh, Nancy! You are a scream!

Be sure that Larry Flynt, Michael Moore, Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright, Janet Reno, Susan Sarandon, Whoopi Goldberg, Chevy Chase, Barbra Streisand, Meryl Streep, Hillary Clinton, Osama bin Laden, Jacques Chirac, Kim Jon-il (it's hard to know where to stop) are part of this clarifying process!

67 posted on 01/02/2005 2:23:44 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: Nick Danger
"Women no longer like the feminists."

Yes, their defense of serial rape and sexual assault was hard to ignore.

68 posted on 01/02/2005 2:29:44 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: Savage Beast
"We'll make it clearer in the non-presidential election year what the differences are between the Democrats and the Republicans."

The astounding part is this nincompoop is completely clueless as to the effect of her words on the voting public......not that I'm complaining. Let the Dim witch rant and rave on and on and on. Have at it Nancy, with my compliments.

69 posted on 01/02/2005 2:35:34 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: wagglebee
Joe Manchin, the new governor of West Virginia, a Democrat whose anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-gun-control views lifted him to a double-digit victory even as Mr. Kerry lost his state by 13 points, said last week that he had little doubt about why Democrats lost the presidency and seats in the House and Senate. "It's the values - my goodness, it's the values,"

A new day has dawned and Dumbocrats are about a day late and a dollar short. The magnitude of the political ground-shifting is best illustrated by this map. The rabid Secularist Party still doesn't get it. Their (gag) values (and I use the term loosely) do not comport with the rest of America......by that, I mean Christian America. (MAP UPDATE Bush won Iowa, Ohio and New Mexico later.)

70 posted on 01/02/2005 2:44:33 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: wagglebee
Joe Manchin, the new governor of West Virginia, a Democrat whose anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-gun-control views lifted him to a double-digit victory even as Mr. Kerry lost his state by 13 points, said last week that he had little doubt about why Democrats lost the presidency and seats in the House and Senate. "It's the values - my goodness, it's the values," he said, adding: "But to allow any other party to say that the Democrats aren't for family values, they are not for people who go to church, they are not for people who like to go hunting - that's wrong. For the Democrats to sit back and allow that to happen, is even more wrong."

Does this guy even know what his party's platform is?

Apf

71 posted on 01/02/2005 3:08:03 AM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: Nick Danger
Women no longer like the feminists. Everybody is up-to-here with gays-in-your-face. The cynical anti-patriotism isn't amusing anymore. What used to be secular government has turned into hostility to religion, and contempt for religious faith.

I agree. I would add that Democrats are now wallowing in identity and resentment based politics largely because they have abandoned the substantive policy debate.

Social Security is headed for the wall. Republicans want to face up to it; Dems want to deny the problem and lie about the pubbies. Health care: dems are trying to market single payer, but won't come clean about the fact that single payer is a codeword for rationing. The disaster in urban public education: dems won't take any action that upsets the unions. Jihadis on the march: dems want to throw Israel over the side and appease the thugs.

On and on it goes. Present a serious problem and the dems will find a way to look the other way. The more I think about it, the more I think John Kerry was the perfect dem candidate, being French at heart.

72 posted on 01/02/2005 3:59:17 AM PST by sphinx
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To: wagglebee

dems are just weak;ergo they lose.


73 posted on 01/02/2005 4:30:15 AM PST by larryjohnson
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To: wagglebee

"Feel Safer". Democrats want us to "Feel Safer".

Typical. Then the fellow throws out Kennedy and Truman.

Great.

I would rather be safe. See: Reagan, Ronald.


74 posted on 01/02/2005 4:38:05 AM PST by steveyp
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To: wagglebee
"....among Democrats about why Mr. Kerry was defeated."

He lost because he is clearly showed the voters that he was the very essence of the Hate the United States Democrap Party! Their primary campaign message (starting with the gaggle of pimps of the election industry who ran around the contry seeking the Demcrap nomination and bashing the United States and President Bush) was HATE PRESIDENT BUSH!

The Democrap Party is defined by the POLITICS of FEAR, DIVISION, and HATRED! That is part of the reason that the Jayson Blair Slimes is so sympathetic to their efforts.
75 posted on 01/02/2005 4:51:36 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Cowboy Bob

I believe in the "old days" guys like him were referred to as "Conservative Democrats"... which I don't believe exist anymore ... Until now


76 posted on 01/02/2005 5:48:42 AM PST by Mr. C
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To: wagglebee
Post-loss squabbling between the party's left wing and its moderate faction is nothing new.

Moderate faction eh ? Who's that McCain ?
77 posted on 01/02/2005 7:08:41 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now !)
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To: Liz

{The rabid Secularist Party still doesn't get it.}

True. Liberals still think their message don't get out. They sheer at people who consider abortion and gay marriage to be more vital than univeral healthcare, living wages, and increased spending on education and welfare. They wonder why the Red States are voting against their economic interests.


78 posted on 01/02/2005 7:12:28 AM PST by Kuksool (Voter Fraud has been perfected in Seattle)
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To: wagglebee

Joe Manchin is a conservative Democrat who would be a Republican (and not just a RINO like Schwarzenegger or McInsane) in almost any other state, who ran against a singularly inept Republican candidate. My leftie friends were incensed when he won the RAT primary.


79 posted on 01/02/2005 7:16:45 AM PST by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: wagglebee
"Values obviously are important," said Terry McAuliffe, the national Democratic party chairman, whose term expires in February. "But clearly, the overriding issue in this election was terrorism and national security. You don't get to those other issues until you have checked the box on national security."

Terry, it's not a box to be checked. It takes a long-term commitment to:

That's why you're stuck in this hole. If your party is really a coalition of aggrieved special interest groups you stand ,i>against America and for nothing but its destruction. There are times your funny sensibilities are tolerable. Wartime is not among them.

80 posted on 01/02/2005 7:28:06 AM PST by Dilbert56
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