Posted on 01/02/2005 5:31:35 PM PST by VOA
Capt. Dye is reporting on his weekly radio show.
The crew of the USS Abraham Lincoln is forgoing fresh-water showers so that
the evaporators can produce the maximum of 25,000 gallons of fresh water per day.
US helicopters are not only delivering on-ship goods, but moving/delivering
humanitarian supplies from charity groups.
just a ping to LA area folks
another bump for publicity...I'm headed back to listen to Capt. Dye's narrative
about the USS Abraham Lincoln and crew's work...
Dye is also talking about the 20 or so US ships arriving on scene to help out...
So they are going French!
Meanwhile, Kofi may be back in NYC after his skiing holiday at Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
When questioned why he didn't cut his holiday short, he became "testy" and assured reporters planning was being arranged, and it wouldn't have helped for him to return early.
Further, the UN and the EU will commence planning meetings sometime this week.
Reporters, of course, criticized Pres. Bush for not commenting for a couple of days. In fairness, by the time he commented ACTIONS (not words) were underway.
Can always resort to Marince Corps showers. :)
Glad to hear they're helping out.
What's a few less showers among close friends & close quarters? Heh heh heh.
Good luck men. Thanks for your service.
D1
You otta try JP-5 showers on a Forrestal Class CV. THEY SUCK!
That's impossible. We're stingy, remember?
Crew about 5000, 25000gal/day - it would come to 5 gal per day per person, for all purposes. So for showering it would come to maybe 3 gal a nose (the rest for food preparation, drinking, washing one's hands etc.) I'd think there would be water desalinators with greater capacity.
Gentlemen and ladies - Big Dogs - God Bless 'em.
some USS Abraham Lincoln pics
http://www.gallagher.com/ejection_seat/photos_uss_lincoln.htm
http://www.navysite.de/cvn/cvn72history.htm
Brought to them and generated by NUCLEAR POWER!
25000gal/day
25000gal/day = 100 tons of water
lots of chopper sorties for H20 alone, plus dry goods
Radio update:
Capt. Dye takes a phone call from someone with contacts in Myanmar (sp?; formerly Burma).
Caller says that the socialist/commie overlords officially aren't talking, but
the lowland areas were hit hard.
(VOA was on the run, but thinks he heard that the thugs running Myanmar are taking in
humanitarian goods via "back channels")
Hmmm. An evaporator is a desalinator and it works quite well in larger capacities. I suggest you do a little homework and then come back.
I took a tour of the "Requin", which is a WW II sub turned into a museum piece and now connected with Carnegie Science Center in Pittsburgh PA. The quarters were unbelievably small and cramped. The Captain's "luxurious" quarters was the size of a small walk-in closet.
The could use boats ...
I took a tour of the "Requin", which is a WW II...The quarters were unbelievably
small and cramped. The Captain's "luxurious" quarters was the size of a small
walk-in closet.
Same for the WWII boat at Galveston, TX.
I admire the "men who down to the sea in boats"...the folks who go in subs
are really off-the-chart!
Where did that number come from? Everything that I've read about a Nimitz class carrier says that the four evaporators can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.
See, for instance:
http://www.defenselink.mil/home/articles/2004-12/a123004la1.html
If I'm ever in Galveston, I'll keep it in mind to visit it. And I agree, the men who went to the sea in those "floating coffins" were a special breed. My uncle said they gave them tests to see if they'd be affected by claustrophobia. Me, I'd never have passed it, myself.
By the way, those sub tours are great things to take the kids on. They get a huge kick out of crawling thru a sub.
LST's beach on the shore and drop their forward ramp allowing the equipment to drive off onto the beach - then slip off to return for another load.
They ain't called "amphibs" for nothin'.
Sorry you missed the experience. Very cool.
B - anphip ops 61 - 63 USN
Capt. Dye is now highlighting the combat engineers, medics and Marines that
will soon be going ashore to improve conditions.
The good Capt. is being direct about the scale of the problems faced by the
crew of the Lincoln and the other ships that are there (or soon to arrive).
Damn! I can almost relate. The mil surgeons almost cut out 3/4 of my left lung on a mis-diagnosis back in the 60s.
Amphibeous was IMNSHO the best. Small groups - easire to get recognised and Fun - fun fun - Sweeping mines and getting in close.
BTW if you want to see a great movie -"The Aviator"
Put all your stuff aside - or not - and get blown away!
Butt, butt, butt, the U.N. is planning MEETINGS!! While people die, the U.N. is planning MEETINGS to assess need for further assessment MEETINGS to address the need for further assessment MEETINGS. Meantime, Red Cross, Salvation Army and the U.S. Military are on the scene delivering humanitarian aid.
the evaporators can produce the maximum of 25,000 gallons of fresh water per day
Where did that number come from? Everything that I've read about a Nimitz class carrier says that the four evaporators can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.
Sounds about right, remember, fresh water is usually about 50% fro the engineering plant, and whatever left over is for the crew. And they still need hotel services such as cooking laundry, and drinking water, which all come out of the crews water.
Jack
Me thinks that the UN just had the final nail driven in.
OK - wishful ...
Capt. Dye has taken a call from a mom who has 2 boys in the sub service...she's asking
what they are doing.
Dye says that the sub service won't get much attention on this mission...but will be
1. doing lots of security/screening around the Lincoln, Bonhomme Richard, etc.
2. lots of hydro-surveys of the ocean bottom with hopes of getting useful data
on all the tectonics of the area.
Dye said he has this form talking about with the heads of the "ESG" (Expeditionary
Strike Group) at Guam that has now been diverted for the humanitarian effort.
That's possible, but having experience with carrier crews (my son served on the Teddy Roosevelt - CVN-71), I suspect that the crew would restrict their use of fresh water in order to provide as much as possible to the needy. It may sound trite, but that really is the American way.
The major question that I would have is how are they able to deliver the excess water, however much it is. Helicopters seem to be a relatively inefficient means.
Capt. Dye said that the hospital ships USS Mercy is PROBABLY being fired up
and should be on the way from home port of San Diego.
Dye says the Mercy is kept in home port on reduced operational status, but should be
ready to go in five days of alert.
Regardless of the number - salt water showers are a bitch - later
Been there - done that - if you haven't what are you talking about?
"The major question that I would have is how are they able to deliver the excess water,
however much it is. Helicopters seem to be a relatively inefficient means."
Capt. Dye says the helicopter crews are working "round the clock".
And if I understood him correctly, there will be sizeable craft going ashore
(or near shore), so it could be what the helicopters are able to carry is being
loaded onto those delivery ships...just VOA's speculation.
"BTW if you want to see a great movie -"The Aviator" "
All I know is that the short flying clips of the H-1 and the P-38 on the commercials
are simply fantastic...
http://oregonmag.com/HughsRacePlane.htm
Our country is indeed blessed to have so many qualified people and available ships that can be diverted for the relief effort.
one last bump for publicity...
Capt. Dye's show is about over...but time to keep all the sailors and Marines in our prayers.
I am so proud of our Navy guys. And all our military who are helping out in this catastrophe.
BTW, my grandson takes off for Navy boot camp in three weeks. He is going into the submarine service. So the posts on this thread about life on board a sub are very interesting to me.
He's a very tall kid and I told him when he goes to bed his feet will stick out the portholes.
choppers are the best - bottlenecks with larger loads - stuff pilinging up at the main airports with no way to deliver to the remote areas 'cept choppers.
When the AL was designed, osmosis membranes were not as efficient nor as reliable and also much more expensive than today. Not to mention new operation and maintence techniques.
"He is going into the submarine service."
er' he "wants" to go in the sub service. I root for him but it ain't no slam dunk.
Gotta qualify.
How long till the local crazies try to take out a warship or shoot down a chopper?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050102/481/xeh10701022202
report says that the US Military is now in it's largest humanitarian operation
since the Vietnam War...
"How long till the local crazies try to take out a warship or shoot down a chopper?"
Already done that - USS Cole and a Blackhawk in Somalia!
"How long till the local crazies try to take out a warship or shoot down a chopper?"
It's a sobering prospect.
But it appears submarine screens are in place (post 33) and I suspect some
planes flying cover are burning up the flight deck of the Lincoln.
Still, time to keep the fingers crossed and all eyes open.
"Helicopters seem to be a relatively inefficient means."
Choppers are the ONLY means - think - airstrip - can only turn around an aircraft in 30 mins - BEST - Chopper - in and out - now.
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