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(White House) Spokesman to 'look into' illegal-alien guide
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 01/03/2005 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 01/03/2005 4:14:33 PM PST by nanak

Editor's note: Each week, WorldNetDaily White House correspondent Les Kinsolving asks the tough questions almost no one else will ask. And each week, WorldNetDaily brings you the transcripts of those dialogues with the president and his spokesman. If you'd like to suggest a question for the White House, submit it to WorldNetDaily's exclusive interactive forum MR. PRESIDENT!

At today's White House news briefing, WND asked presidential press secretary Scott McClellan about the Mexican government's distribution of a comic-book-style guide to illegal border crossers.

WND: Scott, a two-part. The Arizona Republic reports that the Mexican government's foreign ministry is distributing a guide to assist border-crossing illegal aliens. It's entitled, "The Guide for the Mexican Migrant." And my question: Since the president surely opposes this, what will he do about it?

McCLELLAN: Who is providing this guide?

WND: The foreign ministry of the government of Mexico.

McCLELLAN: Well, I will look into it. I'm not familiar with it.

WND: All right. California State Senator Gloria Romero, Los Angeles, reports that the 28,600 foreigners in California prisons cost the taxpayers $600 million to $800 million a year, but Mexico, in 2003, took back only 109 of the 17,500 Mexican illegal prisoners. And my question: Is the president as concerned about this as this Hispanic American state senator, who is a Democrat?

McCLELLAN: I think you've heard the president state his views when it comes to our immigration laws, which I think is what you're referring to in your question. We've taken a number of steps to strengthen our border security and to improve our immigration laws to prevent those who come here for the wrong reason from entering the country in the first place. The president has also outlined a temporary worker proposal that he would like Congress to act on to address a situation that we are currently in. And I think you've heard me talk about that, as well. This would show our compassionate side, as well as address an economic need. And the president has talked about that.

WND: What about exchanging prisoners? This is done all over the world. If we have a foreign national, we ship them over, and they ship ours over here. But the Mexican government will not accept [this], except 109.

McCLELLAN: This specific question might be best directed to the State Department. I'll be glad to look into it, as well. But I'm not familiar with the details of it.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; conspirators
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1 posted on 01/03/2005 4:14:34 PM PST by nanak
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To: nanak

"this would show our compassionate side"

They are not looking for our compassionate side. They are looking to drain every resource we have.


2 posted on 01/03/2005 4:21:10 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: nanak

"We've taken a number of steps to strengthen our border security and to improve our immigration laws to prevent those who come here for the wrong reason from entering the country in the first place. "

Remind me, nanak, because I've forgotten; I know the intelligence bill calls for more border guards, though they didn't fund it. What are the "steps to improve our immigration laws" the administration has taken????

Kinsolving is one of a kind. Does anyone remember how he hammered Clinton's press secty's?


3 posted on 01/03/2005 4:23:23 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: jeremiah; varon; DoughtyOne; WmDonovan; Semaphore Heathcliffe; Endeavor; badbass; t-1000; ...

You have expressed interest in this subject in the past, please let me know if you want off this illegal immigration ping list. Thanks!


4 posted on 01/03/2005 4:25:30 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: gubamyster; FBD; Marine Inspector

ping


5 posted on 01/03/2005 4:29:31 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: nanak

If you would like your very own pdf copy of the comic book, go to www.americanpatrol.com.

The full url is:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/AID_ABET/MEXICO/InvaderComicBook050103.pdf


6 posted on 01/03/2005 4:39:42 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited & divisive loco gringo armed terrorist vigilante cucaracha!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


7 posted on 01/03/2005 4:40:40 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Being a passionate conservative better known as a socialist, I wonder how long it will take Scott to find the funny book and read it?


8 posted on 01/03/2005 4:40:44 PM PST by meenie
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To: nanak
And I think you've heard me talk about that, as well. This would show our compassionate side, as well as address an economic need. And the president has talked about that.

Bologna. Encouraging people to break the law isn't compassionate (encouraging Mexico to fix their cesspool of a government would be). And if we have an economic need for uneducated, unskilled workers, we should shut our schools down.

9 posted on 01/03/2005 4:46:52 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: meenie

It seemed pretty obvious McClellan didn't know anything about the "comic". I wonder if the WH understands any of this from our side. sigh...


10 posted on 01/03/2005 4:48:32 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: nanak

The bush doctrine and the bush mandate, in action.......

(pun intended)


11 posted on 01/03/2005 4:51:28 PM PST by WhiteGuy (The Constitution requires no interpretation, only enforcement.)
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To: nanak

When did they actually let WND have a reporter in there! Wow. I had no idea Farah had reached legitimate lamestream status yet.


12 posted on 01/03/2005 4:52:51 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: nanak

I'm glad the reporter brought it up but he didn't bring up that it was a comic book.


13 posted on 01/03/2005 4:57:52 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: nanak

We can only hope...


14 posted on 01/03/2005 4:58:49 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: sam_paine

Kinsolving has been part of the White house press core for years. He used to just nail Clinton's people.


15 posted on 01/03/2005 5:01:21 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: bahblahbah

It is an insert in a popular comic book from what I read.


16 posted on 01/03/2005 5:02:20 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: WhiteGuy

I'm not familiar with the details of it. /no sarcasm!


17 posted on 01/03/2005 5:03:48 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: nanak

I just looked at the PDF copy of the comic posted in this thread. It is *absolutely* a guide on how to illegally cross into the U.S. on foot. The Mexican Government is guilty as hell on this one. The Bush Administration needs to crack down on the borders! This is absolutely scandalous!


18 posted on 01/03/2005 5:11:51 PM PST by dinodino
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To: JackelopeBreeder
If you would like your very own pdf copy of the comic book, go to www.americanpatrol.com.

Hey! Why isn't the Mexican government publishing all their guides in both Spanish and English? You would think they'd be at least as bilingual officially as we have to be...

19 posted on 01/03/2005 5:39:21 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: meenie

>Being a pasionate conservative better known as a socialist<

Boy, you really are meen!

>I wonder how long it will take Scott to find the funny book and read it?<

Gee, meenie, how long did it take you? LOL!


20 posted on 01/03/2005 5:46:07 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Kay Ludlow
You would think they'd be at least as bilingual officially as we have to be...

Of course, you know the answer to that. They are quite nationalist, and wouldn't dream of sacrificing their language, culture, or country to foreigners.

Unlike the people who supposedly represent us.

21 posted on 01/03/2005 5:48:25 PM PST by Regulator
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To: dinodino

The same Mexican government which has made no real attempt to solve the murders of over 400 women and girls in Ciudad Juarez, or to stop the crime being caused by it's organized crime rings. Does the Mexican government care one dot about the shop-keepers and innocent bystanders killed by it's violent criminals? Or about the growing number of kidnappings for ransom?


22 posted on 01/03/2005 5:49:40 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Missouri

ping


23 posted on 01/03/2005 5:54:58 PM PST by MissouriConservative ( Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee)
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To: Paperdoll

How about never. Habla Espanol is not in my list of things I want to accomplish before I pass on.


25 posted on 01/03/2005 6:01:11 PM PST by meenie
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To: meenie

I had three years of it in high school. That was a long time ago, but it came in handy in Spain.


26 posted on 01/03/2005 6:15:56 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: nanak

Hey this is unfair.

I want the US to print a guide how I can cross into Mexico illegally, get employment, medical care, have my kids go to their schools, vote, get a driver's license, have the right not to get mistreated by Mexican Authorities, what the normal range of bribes is for each violation, have the right not to answer questions or sign anything (cattle prod or not)without a lawyer or consulate and do all this without paying taxes to Mexico for all those benefits...

some in this country are just plain nuts...


27 posted on 01/03/2005 6:24:23 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: ohiocreek

Does anybody think that perhaps our national interests are better served by a secure (financially and hence, politically) Mexico? Its the only reason I can think of that our government would allow this to continue, since so much of the Mexican economy relies on the "remittances" from their expatriates.
An even more unstable Mexico might lead to even worse problems than we are seeing now.
Just wondering, there has to be a reason for this!


29 posted on 01/03/2005 6:40:23 PM PST by xroadie
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To: xroadie

An even more unstable Mexico might lead to even worse problems than we are seeing now.

Lets see Mexico is sitting on billions in oil, the whole country is corrupt, violence and crime is everywhre, poverty, unemployment while a few rich cats have everything..it is ripe for another revolution, which may or may not be worse for the US. We had better be prepared for more illegal border crossers in any event. If they do have a revolution, put our military on the border with orders to shoot to kill. Close the border and see what happens, maybe they will bring out the guillotine like in France..as El Presidente de Mexico Fox probably would say..let them eat tortillas and beans...he has done nothing and fulfilled none of his promises. Its a sewer full of rats that needs a drastic change...What are we afraid of, communism? Unstable undemocratic Aphganistan and Iraq are being changed, most likely for the better, How much worse could Mexico become? Letting their people work here and send money home is a safety valve, but in the long run is it really hurting them not helping them, by only delaying the inevitable?


31 posted on 01/03/2005 7:00:29 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: All
Obviously the President accepts meddling in our internal affeairs by the corrupt government of Mexico. Mexicorruption has a deliberate policy that goes back more than a decade. President Clinton must have accepted the sorry state and insults to our sovereignty also. Both Parties welcome it. Why?

http://www.csudh.edu/univadv/IDH1100/global.html

"According to [Leticia Calderón, research professor, Instituto Mora, Mexico], Mexico's definition of nationalism changed at the end of the 1980s. The political system became less authoritarian resulting in Mexico's greater awareness of the outside world. Now, Mexicans are beginning to see politics as an important instrument to affect change and more people are choosing to vote.

"Along with this new sense of nationalism, Calderón says, migrants are becoming more involved in the political process. Migration used to be considered a form of betrayal, but this is no longer so. Mexicans who move abroad now consider themselves as remaining a part of the country. Many return at some point and buy homes.

"Mexico, and many other countries in Latin America, are beginning to allow those abroad to vote in their national elections. Calderón states that allowing citizens abroad to vote is a way of adapting to change as many emigrate from Mexico. It is a new way of thinking about the national state. Instead of being part of one nation, Mexico now sees itself as a part of many nations." [End excerpt]

It doesn't take much googling to find a bunch of stuff about the corrupt government of Mexcio's Office of Mexicans Abroad and National Council for Mexicans Abroad. Here's one find.

"Undue Influence -- the Government of Mexico and U.S. Immigration Policies," The Social Contract (Winter 2002) by Allan Wall

Allan Wall is an American citizen who lives in Mexico. Many of his articles and columns are archived at www.FRONTPAGEMAG.com

In Mexico, all political parties support increased Mexican emigration to the United States, amnesty, and government benefits for Mexicans in the United States, regardless of migratory status. In fact, very few influential Mexicans publicly acknowledge the right of the U.S. to control her own borders. Mexican illegal aliens “are not criminals,” “they only do work the gringos won’t do,” and “they are obliged to cross the border” -- these are common slogans used to justify illegal emigration.

www.thesocialcontract.com/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?articleID=1122&terms=

"They only do work the gringos won’t do."

So there's where the President, et al. get that.

32 posted on 01/03/2005 7:12:19 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: nanak
"This would show our compassionate side, as well as address an economic need.

What must Americans do to gain the President's "compassionate side" so he'll address those illegal economically needy who drain taxpayers of $41 billion annually?

Surely a "compassionate" man would not pass us by...

33 posted on 01/03/2005 7:20:39 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: nanak
McCLELLAN: Who is providing this guide?

WND: The foreign ministry of the government of Mexico.

McCLELLAN: Well, I will look into it. I'm not familiar with it.

Well something stinks here. McClellan's boss told the American people that Mexico is our good friend and good neighbor, yet McClellan doesn't seem to have a clue about this.

34 posted on 01/03/2005 7:58:27 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: nanak
Doesn't know about it? These are the folks leading us? Yeah, right. I knew about it and they didn't... whatever.
Wouldn't it be "interesting" for some "altered" version of this "comic book" to get distributed. Errrr, where do they (The foreign ministry of the government of Mexico) hand out these comic books? (Oh, and BTW, isn't it just "rich" that these "so many we can't count them" illegals need a "guidebook" in a comic book format. I am just ecstatic./not
35 posted on 01/03/2005 9:00:55 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Tancredo said Bush's guest-worker proposal is "a pig with lipstick")
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To: Joe Hadenuf
yet McClellan doesn't seem to have a clue about this.

I'd have more respect for the President if he'd just be honest about it.

36 posted on 01/03/2005 9:12:29 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: Moonman62
And if we have an economic need for uneducated, unskilled workers, we should shut our schools down

I'm afraid that we have already effectively done that. They can't read or write but at least the kids have high self esteem.

37 posted on 01/03/2005 9:13:40 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: primeval patriot
I'd have more respect for the President if he'd just be honest about

If he were to do that, he would have to immediately take action in the form of real immigration reform and real border security. Something that should have taken place or put into action *before* 911 ever occurred.

38 posted on 01/03/2005 10:43:34 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: primeval patriot; azhenfud; WilliamofCarmichael

The following Teddy Roosevelt quotes can be found in Edmund Morris, The Rise Of Theodore Roosevelt  Modern Library 2001)


"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism...The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin...would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."
(Speech, New York, 1915)


http://www.presidentlincoln.com/Quote4.html


39 posted on 01/04/2005 1:32:36 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government recieves plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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