Posted on 01/04/2005 10:55:40 AM PST by crushelits
Tribe shoots arrows at aid flight
An Indian helicopter dropping food and water over the remote Andaman and Nicobar Islands has been attacked by tribesmen using bows and arrows.
There were fears that the endangered tribal groups had been wiped out when massive waves struck their islands.
But the authorities say the attack is a sign that they have survived.
More than 6,000 people there are confirmed as either dead or missing, but thousands of others are still unaccounted for.
The Indian coastguard helicopter was flying low over Sentinel Island to drop aid when it came under attack.
A senior police officer said the crew were not hurt and the authorities are taking it as a sign that the tribes have not been wiped out by the earthquake and sea surges as many had feared.
The Andaman and Nicobar archipelago is home to several tribes, some extremely isolated.
Officials believe they survived the devastation by using age-old early warning systems.
They might have run to high ground for safety after noticing changes in the behaviour of birds and marine wildlife.
Scientists are examining the possibility to see whether it can be used to predict earth tremors in future.
"the authorities say the attack is a sign that they have survived."
I'm glad we had an authority to relay that message!
Honestly, I can't say that I really blame them. Conceivably, many of their people have been wiped out by the tsunami. It's not like they have TV or telephones and know what's going on in the world. Then they see giant flying things in the air and they probably don't know what is going on. It has to be remembered that these islands hold tribes that have not yet been documented by anthropologists and the like--the tribes will not allow anyone to land on these islands. So, these people may never have seen helicopters before. We have to look at it from their perspective--they must be scared out of their wits and their primary concern is protecting the families that are still alive. I can understand their reaction. They don't know we are there to help.
"the authorities are taking it as a sign that the tribes have not been wiped out"
This guy's not wasting his Yale PhD. in anthropology!
And yet, I still find the visual I'm getting from this very funny.
I find it sad.
Me too..... time for them to join the 21st century....they really need guns....
These authorities must be regular Alber Einsteins to make a deduction like that. I also love the theory that the islanders observed changes in wildlife behavior to predict the earthquake. A bit more likely they observed the ocean receding prior to the tidal wave, or maybe some of them were just lucky enough to be on high ground.
Not only are they not wiped out--they dont want any help.
They might have run to high ground for safety after noticing changes in the behaviour of birds and marine wildlife.
A ten-year old girl, two Japanese tourists, and a bunch of paleolithic tribesmen can still figure out that when the water disappears rapidly, it's gonna come back just as rapidly...
Right?
Somehow, I knew you'd say that.
They don't view it as helping. As far as they are concerned, the helicopters are there to take the rest of the survivors away. They live in complete isolation from the rest of the world and, according to some estimates, have done so for 60,000 years. These islands are almost like different planets.
Or at least laser pointers.
Even funnier LOL
Helicopters attacked with bows and arrows, cargo jets running over bovinity!
Next, we'll likely see APC's hit with a spray of spitballs.
Wish one of the supporters of this crime would explain to me how these people (in their eyes) differ from pets. Just more dumb animals... ?
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The gods must be crazy.
What do you mean "keeping" them? No one is keeping them on these islands. This is where they live. They're not pets--they are people.
Duh. Art Bell has a geologist on that says one of his local earthquake (Kali) signs is a rise in the
number of missing pets in the classifieds.
They're hungry - and bringing down that big, ugly bug would feed the whole village. ;)
There's a great Paleolithic Park movie in there, somewhere.
The Indian government really should pass some Bow-Control laws.
How do they get Internet service there?
Another "Indiana Jones" movie?
Ok - you know they are alive and survived. Now go away and leave them alone. They did just fine without us - apparently their warning system works. What they don't need is some do-gooder getting off a helicopter and infecting them with the flu and wiping out the entire tribe.
They must be reaaaaaaaal hungry to shoot at big metal camoflage ducks. Someone send em a recipe for helicopter flambe.....
Self bows, I guess...not that I'm sure what those are.
Yeah, but when the big ugly bug breaks wind, it really stirs things up.
Are we talking about the National Geographic-flapboobied coke-bottle-worshipping headhunting facepainting shrunken-skulls-on-sticks raid-Gilligan's Island tribe?
If bows are outlawed then only outlaws will have bows...
I would love to be present and be able to understand their language when they saw the giant flying rock beasts hovering their island then be there when they all dance after they declared victory when the rock beasts flew away in terror. lol.
where do i sign up? is there a waiting list for this island?
When you get down deep into the jungle you can meet the old Iban warriors and sit down and drink "tuak" with them.
("Tuak" is a very potent rice wine - imagine something like triple the strengh of Night Train or Mad Dog 20/20 made from rice) .
The live in long houses like they have been doing for thousands of years. No TV no electricity - nothing that you could consider modern at all.
I remember seeing shrunken heads hanging up along the wall near the ceiling and asking about it. The old man told me that those were the heads of the Japanese from World War 2.
I was getting kinda drunk and asked the old man if they still hunt heads. He said "No, that was in my father's and grandfather's time. Now we are civilized!
What these Islanders need is an Amazon Queen. Lets send Hillary over.
They don't want any help and I don't believe we should force any help on them. They have survived living the way they do for many centuries. I don't see the need to drag them into our century.
I do wonder though...
Our Native Americans had bow and arrow and I believe the Chinese did too. I wonder where these people got the idea of bow and arrow?
Sounds like a good place to relcocate the UN.
Kofi and crew can help the natives
And if Kofi is caught with his hand in the cookie jar the natives will be able to demonstrate their expertise in head shrinking.
There actually may be more stupid and primitive people than Muslims?
They don't know we are there to help.
The main thing here is ... they don't need nor want help from outsiders!
They are free, independent, and self-reliant. The are not liberals.
They spend their whole lives bowhunting, and they don't trust the government when it comes to help. They are NOT stupid!!!!!
And yet, I still find the visual I'm getting from this very funny.
to which cwiz24 replied:
I find it sad.
I find it sad too, which is why I have to end up laughing (at least chuckling) at the image, just like ShadowDancer did. For me laughter is a defense mechanism. It may be the best self defense mechanism God has given us. If you don't laugh sometimes all you can do is give up and cry about it.
I posted an excerpt from Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land on another thread during a similar discussion (Kenya: Quick thinking saves hundreds of revellers). It rings true to me about why people laugh and why laughing under these circumstances at this sort of image isn't inappropriate.
Of course it's sad. It's tragic. It's heart rending, so you have to find a way to look at some bits of it and laugh or you won't be able to go on.
The image that came to my mind was the scene from the Danny DeVito and Bette Midler movie, Ruthless People, where all the police in the town have surrounded this guy picking up a ransom. Another guy in a clown mask walks up to try and steal the money. The cops up on top of the building looking down on this scene say "this is the stupidest person who has ever lived. Shall I shoot him?" You get the impression that some guy standing next to the 50 cal in this helicopter is looking at these tribesmen, then over to his crew chief with this look of "can I?" Then I remembered the scene in Apocalypse Now where the skipper of the riverboat gets killed by a spear from the "primitive" people and I think maybe it's not so out of line to let off a couple of "warning shots," just to get the idea across that it's a bad idea to attack the big flying things.
Even with Kofi's head shrunk, his brain will still have room to rattle around in there...
My question to Mr. Bush and all the rest sending billions of dollars via UN, Red Cross, United Way, and the rest
What are these people going to do with the money? This is third world. The money is overkill, that is, unless most will be syphoned off by the various government workers.
Imagine if they would have shot it down, and then discovered it was too tough to eat!
During Tsunami Remote Viewing Primitive Tribes In Andaman Nicbar Islands Of India
Staff Reporter
January 02, 2005
Indian Military personnel is finally reaching the remote islands of Andaman and Car Nicobar. There is massive devastation especially in Nicobar Islands. The inhabitants in these islands consists of tribal and non-tribal mainstream population. Thousands of people are dead and the coastal areas just evaporated.
The total population before Tsunami of these tribes was approximately 28,000, which accounts for about 9% of the total population of these Islands. The other 91% population consists of mainstream settlers and the military personnel.
The rescue teams are observing some strange things as they are reaching these remote tribal areas for rescue and relief. While there is massive unbelievable devastation, the primitive tribes are relatively unaffected though most of them lived close by the ocean.
According to sources, these tribes moved to higher grounds. So did most animals during Tsunami in South and South-east Asia. The rescue teams are also finding interesting information from these untouched tribal people – they could view and hear the Tsunami coming and they moved to higher grounds way before the Tsunami came and earthquake shattered the islands.
Indian Military with all high tech equipments and especially the Air Force lost a full base with hundreds of personnel in this catastrophe.
As a matter of fact another correlation is also interesting – the more primitive tribes moved out to the higher grounds days before the catastrophe.
Nicobarese who are settled in the Car Nicobar Island, Nancowry group of islands and in Harminder Bay of Little Andaman constitutes more than 98% of the tribal population. The population of other tribes is very small and is declining over the past several decades. Andaman and Nicobar Administration under the Government of India have rehabilitated Great Andamanese in Strait Island and Onges in Dugong Creek and South Bay of Little Andaman Island. Shompens having a population of 157 live deep in the jungles of Great Nicobar Island. Jarawas, who live in the jungles of South and Middle Andaman were hostile till recently. In last couple of years, they have shown a willingness to come out of their isolated world and mingle with the mainstream population. The Sentinelese live in the North Sentinel Island and are still unapproachable. All the tribes are in a state of transition from their primitive life-styles to a more modern way of life. The Nicobarese were the first to adjust to this. They have almost lost their tribal nature and are as modern as any of the settler community.
The Onges and Andamanese are changing slowly. They keep many aspects of their tribal culture, at the same time have adopted many things from the mainstream population. The Jarawas have just coming out of their seclusion. The Sentinelese has not yet shown any willingness to shed their hostile attitude towards outsiders.
Stating that the devastation in Car Nicobar islands was total, General Officer-in-Command Southern Command Lt Gen B S Takhar on Saturday said, it would take at least take six months for things to become normal in the island. Though the tribals of Andaman islands were not much affected, there has been total devastation in car Nicobar islands mostly inhabited by the modern Nicobarese, Takhar, who undertook an aerial and ground survey of tsunami affected areas along the eastern coast, told the reporters.
Based on the reports we are receiving, Nicobarese who are most modern have lost the most in Car Nicobar and Nancowry group of islands. Very few of them sensed the incoming Tsunami. But the Shompens and Sentinelese who took some direct hit, lost little because of their remote viewing capabilities. They moved to higher grounds before.
According to some of the tribal leaders, earth communicates to them. And this time they could see it coming in their remote viewing periscopes.
Interestingly, in South and South east Asia which includes Andaman and Nicobar islands, it is now confirmed that animal bodies are not found because most of them moved to higher grounds days before the Tsunami came.
It seems if this correlation is anything close to correct, we may be gaining in so called “modern technologies” but we are losing in higher grounds of technical expertise, which may encompass spiritual science and paranormal technologies.
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