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To: Keyes2000mt

>>>>Those who believe in gay marriage have pointed to divorce as an argument against those who seek to protect marriage from same sex unions. I reject the argument that one evil prospering requires that we allow another blow to traditional family values<<<<


I am divorced. I do believe that divorce is a sin in most cases, but not all. For instance, Christians need not stay married to non-Christians. The thing is, Christians are forgiven for their sins if they seek it, believe they need it, and intend to change as well.

The comparison of homosexual marriage vs. divorced Christians is unfair. Homosexuals are choosing sin as a Lifestyle, while most Christians divorcing experience extreme pain, soul searching, and attempt NOT to make the mistake again. It can not compare to staying in a relationship which God abhorrs.


50 posted on 01/04/2005 12:55:22 PM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: hushpad; Keyes2000mt
You got it right. Being "gay" is a lifestyle affront to God. Divorce is a different matter but what I think the article is really saying is that the church needs to be purified before it can overcome the sin of homosexuality and the gay army of God haters. Once our own house is in order, then we will have real authority to take on the problem of homosexuality.

Today I had a conversation with my pastor about the gay thing.

Told him of Freud's suppressed "Seduction theory" that Freud was working in a French morgue before the turn of the last century and uncovered horrific sexual abuse against children. This theory was suppressed by a psychiatrist named Fliess who discredited Freud and put forth the female hysteria theory instead. (This is why doctors in the early part of the 20th century would perform hysterectomies on women -- just to calm them down!) Turns out Fliess was molesting his own son, and wanted to hush up this crime of the century against children.

Point being, I don't know ANY gay person who was NOT molested as a child. It is a Satanic plan to raise up this gay army against the church -- usually by using our own sexual sin and hypocrisy against us. Sexual abuse in the home is working to turn a generation against God if not to turn them gay.

We in the church must be compassionate about gays as well as holding the line with our own sinfulness.
108 posted on 01/04/2005 1:19:23 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: hushpad
The comparison of homosexual marriage vs. divorced Christians is unfair. Homosexuals are choosing sin as a Lifestyle, while most Christians divorcing experience extreme pain, soul searching, and attempt NOT to make the mistake again. It can not compare to staying in a relationship which God abhorrs.

The question is whether the remarriage is a sin. If it is as the Bible says, adultery, then that relationship is sinful.

132 posted on 01/04/2005 1:31:51 PM PST by PFC
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To: hushpad
I'm divorced and remarried. I've always had a good relationshiop with my pastor. I have no doubt he's a man of God.

I had several years worth of issues involving my ex-wife-from-hell and my daughter. At some point in the middle of this, probably three years after I'd re-married, he said, "You don't seem to have a settled mind about your divorce. Can we just agree that it was sin, and your sin is paid for?" I cried.

I'm of the belief that divorce is sin, but we can be forgiven.

185 posted on 01/04/2005 1:54:18 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: hushpad
For instance, Christians need not stay married to non-Christians.

This is not true in and of itself. Christians are only licensed to divorce in instances of adultery, abandonment, or (in my opinion, the Bible does not specifically address it) physical abuse. In that case immediate separation is needed, and obviously the Lord does not expect a spouse to remain with someone who abuses them.

1 Cornithians 7:12 - 14 for more reference.

And of course over all of this we remember the forgiveness of Christ which works in all circumstances.

823 posted on 01/05/2005 7:57:43 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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