Roemer is the odds-on favorite right now, as the Dems want a pro-life face to go along with pro-life Reid in the Senate.
If Roemer wins, then the Dems are going to abort their pro-choice wing in order to be competitive again in the Heartland.
Posted on 01/04/2005 12:59:22 PM PST by byteback
damn!!
Is it now Howard's to lose?
Somebody got something on ol' Harold? Damn shame.
I hope it is Dean as new DNC !!
ROFLMAO!
Gawd, I love FR!
Bag AND body man.
Where's John McCain?
Wasn't he an FOB and FOH!!!!! Good riddance!
YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Looks like Icky's greasing the skids for the pseudo moderate Clintonista we discussed elsewhere.
I was just thinking about this last night. It's the little decisions that effect the greatest change years hence -- a butterfly effect writ large. This may prove to be the 'jump the shark' moment that costs the Dems any chance in '08.
I suspect the Kerry dudes have dirt on Ickes, as Harold was the choice of the Clintons. There has been a behind the scenes battle between Kerry and the Clintons for the control of the lucrative (for the Clintons at least) DNC. Kerry seems to have won.
Surprising in light of the fact that he is shifty guy just like his father Harold the Interior Secretary under FDR, Socialist to the core.
Roemer is the odds-on favorite right now, as the Dems want a pro-life face to go along with pro-life Reid in the Senate.
If Roemer wins, then the Dems are going to abort their pro-choice wing in order to be competitive again in the Heartland.
You beat me to it!
If that's the only news channel you can access, you have my sympathy. If it's not, how can you watch it?
Admittedly, it's been many years since I tried.
I think Dean is megalomaniacal enough to run the DNC to rebuild his base as a faux moderate, resign the DNC chair in late '06, and run again versus Kerry and Clinton. Under that scenario, all the GOP needs is someone who can believably finish what Bush has started.
Well, those jerks will go SOMEWHERE and that will split the Dems. Fine by me.
You can bet whatever it is ... he's up to no good
If Dean gets the top job ... it's to keep the base happy
He took himself out of it because he is dirty. Listen on Wednesday to The Free Republic radio hour with Doug from Upland on RIGHTALK RADIO. Author Richard Poe and I will be discussing Satan's Daughter and Harold Ickes. Is he dirty? Listen and you decide.
He certainly help the GOP gain prominence. On a related note, I hear Tom Dashole is looking for work.
All we need then is for Gore to make another run at it!
The DNC has to know that will happen
They are up to something else and have some kind of plan
There's plenty on Ickes. That wouldn't stop him. The media will never report a single negative thing about a clintonoid.
You (re-)signed up today just to ask me that?
He might be...
Maybe, but then again, Ickes is big in the 527s. That is where the REAL power lies. Remember, they need the unions and the MoveOn folks for their GOTV efforts. I suspect a LOT of the small-time donors will instead shift to Dean's organization and MoveOn as opposed to the DNC.
yup..........Ickes is a hatchet man for sure......but his last name is so very appropriate for a Dem operative
The Dems can only walk that tightrope for so long before the 527's and radicals like Dean figure out that they can start an entirely new Party to win in areas like New York and California.
Put another way, two or three powerful organizations like Dean's or 527's or the Democratic Party can only remain in lockstep for so long. There are limits to such competing power bases.
Weak effort. Thanks for playing.
Did I say he's a "bleeding heart liberal"? No.
He hates Bush? Seems I recall him being alongside Bush just last October and November during the campaign.
Irresponsible? No; you only listen to liberal news sources (which is why you belive what you do). You better check out the spending cuts the Bush Admin has proposed and not where it is being spent.
I suspect your time on FR is short.
In a word .... Yes!
The 'right' to abort anywhere, anytime, any way is a totem of the post-'72 Democrat Party, when the McGovernick's enshrined it as a permanent platform plank.
Reid and Roemer (who I doubt has the base to take the chair) will continue to be patted on the head for their 'quaint' and 'out-of-mainstream' beliefs regarding life, while the rest of the party salivates over tagging the restoration of third-trimester abortion 'rights' to the '08 candidate.
Ozone. I definitely smell ozone.
That's certainly a strange turn of events...
Who did the Politburo put forward as his replacement candidate?
I figured if Hillary was going to run for Pres, she would want Ickes at the DNC .. but maybe not. Maybe she's going to stay with groups like MoveOn, etc., ACT and Answer. If that's her plan .. it a very bad plan.
I think it would split the party and if so .. how would Hillary think she could win with a party split ..??
Curious??
Hillary is NOT stupid. She's probably figured having Howard Dean as DNC Chairman will both consume all his energies into administering and running the party, that it leaves him worn out by '08. Plus it makes Her Highness look more moderate.
Aww, maybe when you figure out that McCain isn't a fiscal conservative, you'll want to come back to the site. Until then, Farewell.
Idiot troll.
I am perI am perplexed sometimes at the actions of the democrats. They are ready to give the head chair of the DNC over to a guy who flamed out during the primaries. A guy who did not win one state and inflamed the hatred of its base and brought out the worst in its activists; which contributed to its huge loss in the election of 2004. Furthermore, his campaign produced a record amount of pledges but failed to actually collect the money. A myth was created that tons of youth voters would get involved in the democrat election. None of this materialized.
Does this leave the way open for Dean?
Good points, but regarding money left on the table and the youth vote, Dean was not the candidate. The Deaniacs I know thought Kerry was, well, you go into Baskin-Robbins for Rocky Road (Dean) and they're all sold out so you buy the French vanilla (Kerry), but it's really not satisfying.
Sure, Howard brought out the 'worst' in the Deaniacs/DUmmies/activists/goose-stepping Socialists, but that's not perceived as a negative among the Trotskyites. I mean, at the end of the day, the DNC wants their hands on that Dean mailing list.
Interesting insight.
To quote an interesting set of lines
Many machines on Ickes
Your thoughts are transparent
I see plans within plans within plans
You must, share.
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