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18 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA (Just recieved this email from someone we know)
Evalyn F. Segal, PhD; Professor Emerita, San Diego State University | Evalyn F. Segal, PhD

Posted on 01/04/2005 2:38:37 PM PST by stockpirate

18 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA

Did you know....?

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S. link 1 link 2 link 3

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. link 1 link 2

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. link 1 link 2

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." link 1 link 2

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator in a surprise upset, with votes counted by ES&S machines. link 1 link 2

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee. link 1 link 2 link 3

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates. link 1 link 2

8. Kenneth Blackwell co-chaired George Bush's Ohio election campaign. As Ohio secretary of state, he left no stone unturned to surpress the democratic vote. link 1 link 2 link 3

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters. link 1 link 2

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail. link 1 link 2

11. Exit polls are usually excellent predictors of election results. Reputable analyses could not find and explanation of the discrepancy between exit polls and results of the 2004 presidential election. link 1 link 2 link 3

12. A Diebold subsidiary employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers. These people helped write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states. link 1 link 2

13. Jeff Dean, senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree. link 1 link 2

14. Jeff Dean was served jail time for planting back doors in his client's accounting software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years. link 1 link 2

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio. link 1 link 2

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here with the chimp link 1 link 2 link 3

17. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates. link 1 link 2 link 3 link 5

18. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation. link 1 link 2 link 3 link 4 link 5

Based on a list compiled by Angry Girl link 1 ______________________________________________ Were American's votes were deliberately miscounted?

Please -

1) forward this list to everyone you know 2) use it as grist for letters to the editor (in your own words) and requests to newspapers, radio and tv for election fraud investigation... link to DU 3) write your congressional representatives calling for an investigation http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Evalyn F. Segal, PhD Professor Emerita, San Diego State University Residing at Philadelphia PA USA


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: diebold; election2004; electronicvoting; ges; getoverit; kerrydefeat; tinfoil; wewon
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My reply was

LMAOWROTF

Get over it, you guys lost the election.

The voting machines cannot be "Hacked" because they are not connected to the internet. Repeat "Not Connected"

Do some research on the "exit polls" and find how the numbers were juiced in favor of Kerry. This can be found on Slatecom slate

And here is more for your reading enjoyment.

FreeRepublic post

1 posted on 01/04/2005 2:38:38 PM PST by stockpirate
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; BykrBayb; LakeLady; bridgemanusa; Darksheare; Dr Snide; faithincowboys; ..

PING


2 posted on 01/04/2005 2:39:57 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: stockpirate

I suppose it doesn't matter that Ohio didn't use Diebold


3 posted on 01/04/2005 2:40:10 PM PST by jbwbubba
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To: stockpirate
1) forward this list to everyone you know

Red flag. Did you try snopes.com?

4 posted on 01/04/2005 2:41:28 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: stockpirate

It's funny how they scream and yell about Diebold, but the problem is Diebold wasnt used in Ohio...
and the voter lines?


I waited for 3 hours to vote. I am not in an Urban or minority area either.


5 posted on 01/04/2005 2:42:12 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: jbwbubba

The truth doesn't matter to these nitwits.

I suppose it doesn't matter that if two brothers are in the same business with different company's it doesn't make them crooks. Except in a nitwits mind.


6 posted on 01/04/2005 2:42:21 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: stockpirate

Shhhhhhh.....you shouldn't have posted that! Are you trying to screw us for life? How are we ever going to beat people like Mondale, Dukakis and Kerry without it being rigged?


7 posted on 01/04/2005 2:42:21 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: jennyjenny

You do have a point.


8 posted on 01/04/2005 2:42:58 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: jbwbubba

By this rationale, it's amazing that any democraps anywhere get elected. If the Republicans are fixing all these elections why couldn't they stop NY from electing Hitlery????


9 posted on 01/04/2005 2:43:01 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: stockpirate

I trust a machine far more than I trust a Democrat during a recount.


10 posted on 01/04/2005 2:43:40 PM PST by inpajamas
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To: stockpirate
3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

So are the Heat Miser and the Cold Miser, and they almost never agree on anything.

11 posted on 01/04/2005 2:45:23 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: stockpirate

12 posted on 01/04/2005 2:45:58 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: stockpirate

Some enterprising psychiatry student should write a paper about how these liberals cannot let go of their hatred of President Bush. It is like oxygen to them! It would be a day without sunshine if they couldn't read or post something to reinforce their irrational obsessions. It is also very, very pathetic. Has losing gracefully become a lost art? What about just plain losing and GOING AWAY?

Oh, sorry...that student would get an 'F' on that paper, because there's an 80% chance his professor is one of the people I described above.


13 posted on 01/04/2005 2:46:16 PM PST by LostInBayport (One lone Massachusetts conservative lost in a sea of liberal lunacy...)
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To: stockpirate

Bev and her quest for more Money!


14 posted on 01/04/2005 2:46:27 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: inpajamas

They want Felons to be able to vote, but not get good jobs writing software?


15 posted on 01/04/2005 2:47:01 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: stockpirate

16 posted on 01/04/2005 2:47:36 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: dead

....And so are Alec and Billy Baldwin.


17 posted on 01/04/2005 2:48:02 PM PST by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: stockpirate

18 posted on 01/04/2005 2:48:42 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: stockpirate
I've received a few of those in my inbox over the past few weeks. My response has always been the same:

Dear Left-wing Nut,

I read with amusement your ill-defined conspiracy theory claims that the election was stolen by the Republicans. Personally, I'm shocked that your kind would admit that we backwards country bumpkins in "Dumbf***istan" could pull a swift one on your oh-so-intellectual elitists.

Even more amazing is how you completely ignore the will of the people you so often claim to represent. But, in the final analysis, you really don't represent Americans. You represent libertyphobes, terrorists and every tinpot dictator who cannot abide by people living free anywhere.

I hope you and your kind will make good on your promise to leave this great nation. May I suggest that you make your new residence in the Liberal Utopias known as Cuba, Iran, China, and the Palestinian Authority? You might want to also try Iraq. Who knows? Maybe I'll see you on the evening news with your Jihadist buddies just before they saw your idiot head off.

So kitchy-koo, you incomprehensibly stupid bastard.

Feel free to use this if you like.

19 posted on 01/04/2005 2:48:52 PM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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To: stockpirate
Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it!

Their "proof" is a cute movie of a chimpanzee deleting something on a computer.

Serious science.

20 posted on 01/04/2005 2:49:36 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: stockpirate

You just printed the DU mantra. BTW, all okay w/ the Mrs.?


21 posted on 01/04/2005 2:50:14 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: stockpirate

22 posted on 01/04/2005 2:50:34 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: stockpirate

23 posted on 01/04/2005 2:51:30 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: stockpirate

Well these machines certainly did not work here in the Peoples Republic of WA in Ukraine County (formerly King County).


24 posted on 01/04/2005 2:52:04 PM PST by RetiredArmy (DEMOCRATIC PARTY : Enemies of the Republic)
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To: Prime Choice
"So kitchy-koo, you incomprehensibly stupid bastard."

The "kitchy-koo" is a very nice touch.

25 posted on 01/04/2005 2:53:11 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Prime Choice
And their response was???????
26 posted on 01/04/2005 2:53:26 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: stockpirate

I guess it's easier to search for "connections" and imaginary conspiracies than it is to ask "Why are we not winning elections? What is the difference between what we believe and what most voters believe?"


27 posted on 01/04/2005 2:53:54 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Annoying wussies since 1965)
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To: stockpirate
Has Keith Olbermann been notified?
28 posted on 01/04/2005 2:54:04 PM PST by CaptainK
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To: newgeezer

Looks consistent with other things Evalyn's involved with:

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2003%20News%20archives/December/18%20n/Twelve%20reasons%20why%20940%20intellectuals%20worldwide%20reject%20the%20Geneva%20Accord.htm

http://www.al-bushra.org/LabibKobti/sharon1.html

http://www.usguu.org/USGgalleries/visual.htm#Segal


29 posted on 01/04/2005 2:55:26 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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To: stockpirate
Kenneth Blackwell co-chaired George Bush's Ohio election campaign. As Ohio secretary of state, he left no stone unturned to suppress the democratic vote.

Granted Kenneth Blackwell is a Republican ... a black Republican. You would think that would give 'Rats reason for pause.

30 posted on 01/04/2005 2:56:10 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: Las Vegas Dave
And their response was???????

The usual. I'm a fascist, I'm a psycho, I'm a big blue meanie who beats little baby puppies when nobody's looking, blah-blah-blah-blah.

At that point, I cap off the conversation with just a one-line reply: "I suppose that's supposed to mean something coming from someone whose favorite sexual fantasy is a partner."

31 posted on 01/04/2005 2:56:20 PM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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To: Prime Choice

good reply, I think I will forward it to the loser's.


32 posted on 01/04/2005 2:56:42 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: stockpirate

"3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. link 1 link 2"

Beloved JFKennedy appointed his BROTHER to be Attorney General.


33 posted on 01/04/2005 2:56:56 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: CaptainK

Keith has not been notified to my knowledge.


34 posted on 01/04/2005 2:57:41 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: Bahbah
The "kitchy-koo" is a very nice touch.

That's very much. I don't know what possessed me to start using that years ago, but it's stuck with me ever since. :o)

35 posted on 01/04/2005 2:58:08 PM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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To: newgeezer

This was sent to us via a person we know that works in airline security too.


36 posted on 01/04/2005 2:58:36 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: stockpirate
good reply, I think I will forward it to the loser's.

Be my guest. Use it in good health! :o)

37 posted on 01/04/2005 2:58:50 PM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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To: MikeinIraq

The truth mike doesn't matter to them.


38 posted on 01/04/2005 2:59:23 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: stockpirate
This was sent to us via a person we know that works in airline security too.

YEE! That just gave me a Sphincter-Factor of 10.

39 posted on 01/04/2005 2:59:33 PM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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To: stockpirate

"10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail. link 1 link 2"

I've been quick-checking my cash from ATMs for over 25 years.

Not come up short a single time, yet. Maybe it is a Diebold machine, too?


40 posted on 01/04/2005 2:59:38 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: stockpirate

41 posted on 01/04/2005 3:00:41 PM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Ann Coulter 2008)
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To: Echo Talon

Is there a point to all of lyour posts of cats and such, or just taking up bandwidth.


42 posted on 01/04/2005 3:00:52 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: Prime Choice
So kitchy-koo, you incomprehensibly stupid bastard.

You should make this your tagline. LOL

43 posted on 01/04/2005 3:01:15 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not *always* cranky.)
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To: stockpirate

DU is full of such "fact lists." Some guy will CREATE data via some wild extrapolation of 2000 voting data, that supposed PROVES fraud, and a hundred of those poor fools will line up to congratulate him and yell and cheer and curse and start preparing for the Kerry inauguration.

MM


44 posted on 01/04/2005 3:01:44 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: LostInBayport

They just can't believe that they lost is the problem.


45 posted on 01/04/2005 3:01:44 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: Prime Choice

LOL!!!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 01/04/2005 3:02:02 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: LostInBayport

"Has losing gracefully become a lost art?"

Yes. Particularly if the loser is a democrat.


47 posted on 01/04/2005 3:02:10 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: REDWOOD99

Yes, thanks. She decided not to go on the trip they wanted her to take if that is what you are referring to. I left it up to her, (and God).


48 posted on 01/04/2005 3:03:12 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: BluH2o

To the Rats that makes him an Uncle Tom.


49 posted on 01/04/2005 3:04:40 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Because if they have to answer that question honestly it means that the People have heard their potion on the issues and don't agree with them. It would cause their poor little psyches to melt down to realize the rest of the nation prefers a can do frame of reference as opposed to someone do for me. It would mean they would have to be responsible for themselves and their own actions, which means they no longer could be victims. Bwahahahahahahahaha! That scares the living sh*t out of them.
50 posted on 01/04/2005 3:05:15 PM PST by MKM1960
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