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School 'Peanut Gallery' Raises Eyebrows
Fox News ^ | 01-04-05 | WestVirginiaRebel

Posted on 01/05/2005 5:17:35 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel

YORKTOWN, Ind.-Savannah Dowling is a typical 8-year-old girl; much of her protein comes from peanut butter sandwiches.

However, if she wants to bring one to Central Indiana's Pleasant View Elementary School, she has to eat it at a special table to accomodate one first grader with a severe allergy. Soon she'll have to take her lunch to an area the school is calling the "peanut gallery" so the one child with the peanut allergy isn't affected.

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1 posted on 01/05/2005 5:17:35 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Also posted here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1313659/posts


2 posted on 01/05/2005 5:19:29 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143260,00.html

Try this link, that one didn't work for me


3 posted on 01/05/2005 5:20:19 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ("Hi, I'm Richard Gere and I'm speaking for the entire world.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Jeez... Can't they just give the one kid some Allegra?


4 posted on 01/05/2005 5:20:36 AM PST by wolfpat
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Has anyone else noticed a similarity between these peanut allergy fanatics and liberal PC mongers? I'm not saying that the allergy is psychosomatic, but I can't understand why society has to change for this.

I'm still irate that there are no peanuts on airplanes anymore.


5 posted on 01/05/2005 5:23:02 AM PST by TFine80
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

I thought the words "peanut gallery" were found to have a racist background a few years back. The school had better not call it that or they might offend someone.


6 posted on 01/05/2005 5:25:20 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
I can top this. Forget a special table.

There is a lady that works with me, her daughter is in preschool and she is NOT ALLOWED to bring food made from peanuts or that has peanuts in it to eat for her lunch.
The classroom door has a pic a MR. Peanut with a red X on him and above are the words "Peanut Free School Zone".
7 posted on 01/05/2005 5:26:02 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Additionally, that poor first grader is likely to develop a case of "peanuts envy".


8 posted on 01/05/2005 5:26:19 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: wolfpat

Sorry, Allegra won't work. Although I think the schools go too far, peanut allergies are a very serious issue. It is literally life and death for some. Trust me.


9 posted on 01/05/2005 5:27:13 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Well, it has to be kept in perspective:
Some people are SEVERLY allergic to peanut oil. A peanut oil allergy isn't like being lactose intolerant. It can cause death, even the tiniest drop. And even the smell can trigger serious symptoms. Truthfully, it's just dangerous for some children to be around peanut butter.
10 posted on 01/05/2005 5:29:33 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ("Hi, I'm Richard Gere and I'm speaking for the entire world.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Why stop here? Let's ban sunlight.
11 posted on 01/05/2005 5:33:44 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: bikepacker67

I'm allergic to liberals lets ban them.


12 posted on 01/05/2005 5:35:32 AM PST by DYngbld (I've read the back of the book and guess what? .... We WIN!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Here is my problem with this. Why does the person who indulges in a "normal" behavior (eating a peanut butter sandwich) have to be ostracized and the child who has the allergy goes about his/ her business?


13 posted on 01/05/2005 5:38:14 AM PST by Probus
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To: LauraleeBraswell
What irritates me is when did we decide that we all must live by the "least common denominator" rule?

If a child is allergic to PB, then THEY should be the ones sequestered - not the rest of the school.

14 posted on 01/05/2005 5:38:27 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
What irritates me is when did we decide that we all must live by the "least common denominator" rule?

If a child is allergic to PB, then THEY should be the ones sequestered - not the rest of the school.

15 posted on 01/05/2005 5:38:36 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Both of my sons have severe food allergies....peanuts and fish. The only way people can object to the "peanut gallery", is if they don't understand what a food allergy can do to a person. My oldest son almost died from having his throat close up after TOUCHING (not eating) a peanut butter sandwich in the cafeteria. Some people get extremely sick just from SMELLING peanut butter. Until one has had to have their kid (themselves or someone they love) rushed to the emergency room choking and gagging for air while completely covered in huge hives, they may not understand the seriousness of food allergies. I think this is a good idea. My youngest son's school will not allow peanuts or peanut butter on the premisis. As a parent, I am relieved.


16 posted on 01/05/2005 5:40:09 AM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: johnfkerrysucks
My youngest son's school will not allow peanuts or peanut butter on the premisis. As a parent, I am relieved.
No offense, but your sons should be the ones "quarantined".

Where does this stop? As I posted earlier, some folks are severely allergic to sunlight (or any UV radiation). Should schools shutter their windows, and ban recess?

17 posted on 01/05/2005 5:44:43 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Then, I must agree with other posts here that the allergic kids need to be sequestered somewhere. It's obviously too dangerous for them to be in public.


18 posted on 01/05/2005 5:46:11 AM PST by wolfpat
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Some children are allergic to dust, lets ban going outside. Some children are allergic to rubber lets ban ball playing. Let's just ban being a kid because someone someplace might be allergic to something.


19 posted on 01/05/2005 5:50:28 AM PST by DYngbld (I've read the back of the Book and guess what? .... We WIN!)
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To: Probus

Because the child with the allergy could DIE, while the other child, at worst, doesn't get a full choice of food for lunch.


20 posted on 01/05/2005 5:50:31 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: bikepacker67

I agree with you. Where does it stop? A lot of people, myself included, eat peanut butter because it is a nutritious, inexpensive food. I'm sure a lot of lower income people are able to pack healthy lunches for their children by using peanut butter. Any child that has such a life-threatening condition needs to be trained to stay away from peanut butter - or if that is not feasible, quarantine the child at lunchtime. Oh, but it would make the child feel segregated - you say? He has a life-threatening condition, he needs to get used to having to take extreme measures to protect himself.

I'm tired of the majority of people having to take things to the extreme because of just a few people. This is ridiculous!


21 posted on 01/05/2005 5:51:01 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I am puzzled by where these severe food allergies came from. Growing up, I never heard about or knew anyone who had these types of allergies. Were illness and death from these allergies misdiagnosed? Is this a new phenomenon? I have to admit that it really seems weird to me that all of a sudden, you have a lot of kids with deathly allergies to peanuts. And while I do sympathize with the children who have these allergies, I am not sure where it stops... and people with the more, shall we say, "creative" ailments (multiple chemical sensitivity, etc.) make it harder for kids with bona fide health issues. I just can't figure out the origin for what I perceive as a sudden surge in peanut allergies.


22 posted on 01/05/2005 5:52:52 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The Peanut allergy kid is going to have to learn to live in a world filled with peanuts.

Coddling him at school by creating an environment that ignores reality only serves to harm him in the long run, IMO.


23 posted on 01/05/2005 5:53:31 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: bikepacker67

What irritates me is when did we decide that we all must live by the "least common denominator" rule?

January 26, 1992 - This is the date the public accomodations provisions of the American with Disabilities Act became effective.


24 posted on 01/05/2005 5:53:57 AM PST by rwa265
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To: bikepacker67

I would never stand for my kids being "quarantined". There are some things that can be avoided with little or no harm to the rest of the school. Sunlight is not one of them. I agree that some kids need to be quarantined....a kid that is allergic to the sun should be homeschooled or something else. Peanut allergies are very common. I don't think it's too much to ask people not to eat peanutbutter or peanuts for a few hours at school. The allergist we see said if another person ate/touched a peanut butter sandwich or some nuts and touched a desk or whatever, it could trigger a severe reaction in some. Having peanuts on one's breath could trigger a similar reaction. No offense, but if it were up to insensitive and ignorant people like you, my kid would be "quarantined" from school. All because someone wants their kid to have a peanut butter sandwich. After what my kids have been through, I look at it as a life or death situation.


25 posted on 01/05/2005 5:54:37 AM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: johnfkerrysucks

So what's next? Is peanut butter going to become illegal?


26 posted on 01/05/2005 5:57:51 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: johnfkerrysucks

So what's next? Is peanut butter going to become illegal?


27 posted on 01/05/2005 5:58:10 AM PST by alicewonders
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"So what's next? Is peanut butter going to become illegal?"

Don't be ridiculous. I would hope not.


29 posted on 01/05/2005 6:01:46 AM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: johnfkerrysucks
SO to accommodate the children with severe dairy allergies we should not allow milk or cheese at school. Where does it end. One more thing on the endless list of reasons to continue home schooling my four children.
30 posted on 01/05/2005 6:02:00 AM PST by DYngbld (I've read the back of the Book and guess what? .... We WIN!)
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To: johnfkerrysucks
Having peanuts on one's breath could trigger a similar reaction. No offense, but if it were up to insensitive and ignorant people like you, my kid would be "quarantined" from school.
So, what if a student has a PB sandwich for breakfast before getting to school? Do you make all his playmates sign contracts stating their peanut-free status?

And how is this different than the myriad of life-threatening allergens that exist?

As for the insensitive/ignorant comment, I suggest you stop thinking that the world revolves around you, or your kids.

31 posted on 01/05/2005 6:02:22 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: johnfkerrysucks
I would never stand for my kids being "quarantined".
No of course not. You'd rather see EVERYONE ELSE accomodate your child.

Jeez... talk about hubris.

32 posted on 01/05/2005 6:03:30 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

My son has a peanut allergy and yes it is life threating....his throat will swell closing off the air supply......BUT....you don't have to ban peanut butter....we had it in the house the entire time he was growing up. And guess what...that darn ole jar of peanut butter didn't attack him and try to make him eat it.


33 posted on 01/05/2005 6:04:05 AM PST by knees_knees
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To: johnfkerrysucks
I am sorry for your son's allergies and don't get this wrong, but why should everyone have to change, give up things and compromise so that your sons don't have to?
PS: I carry an Epipen with me at all times because of my allergies
34 posted on 01/05/2005 6:05:18 AM PST by sticker
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To: Rebelbase

I'm sorry but I agree - those kids with peanut allergies are going to have to live in the rest of the world when they get out of school & need to learn how to handle it. I had extreme allergies as a kid - chocolate & strawberries to name a couple which brought on SEVERE asthma attacks (also a life & death situation)

Did I get segregated? Heck no! I was taught to stay away from those foods & always carried my inhaler with me. What has happened to PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY? Now an entire school is held responsible & the entire student body suffers for a few students that can't be responsible themselves????
The PC BS has got to stop!


35 posted on 01/05/2005 6:09:06 AM PST by Rebelr
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To: bikepacker67

"So, what if a student has a PB sandwich for breakfast before getting to school? Do you make all his playmates sign contracts stating their peanut-free status?

And how is this different than the myriad of life-threatening allergens that exist?

As for the insensitive/ignorant comment, I suggest you stop thinking that the world revolves around you, or your kids."

Your first question is ridiculous.
Question 2: This IS different, because peanuts can be easily avoided at little or no cost to EVERYONE at school.
Would you rather an allergic kid be put in a special school at the tax payers expense.....all so your kid can eat a peanut butter sandwich? As a parent, my world IS my kids. When I hear from insensitive people like you who think my kid should be treated like a leper because of an allergy that can be easily avoided, it makes my blood boil. I hope you never have to see someone you love almost die from an allergic reaction. Of course, if you did, maybe you wouldn't be such an insensitive, ignorant jerk. Don't ever post to me again. It's a waste of both of our time.


36 posted on 01/05/2005 6:10:07 AM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: TFine80
I'm still irate that there are no peanuts on airplanes anymore.

I just got back from Phoenix and had peanuts given to me by the flight attendant on both legs of the trip. Don't know what carrier your flying on, but America West still hands out peanuts.

37 posted on 01/05/2005 6:11:06 AM PST by scooter2
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
I was in the peanut gallery once...on "The Howdy Doody Show".

Yeah, I'm old...

FMCDH(BITS)

38 posted on 01/05/2005 6:11:24 AM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

With all due respect (and this isn't rhetorical--I have a daughter who breaks out in the same hives, suffers the same throat-clogging but with no known cause), whatever happened to personal responsibility? And how in the world is the ban on peanut-butter-toting enforced? Suspension? Jailing? Detention? Expulsion?


39 posted on 01/05/2005 6:11:34 AM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: snarkytart
"The classroom door has a pic a MR. Peanut with a red X on him "
I had one of these and I meant it to be that peanut farmer, Carter
40 posted on 01/05/2005 6:12:47 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (If someone says "sak", you should sak.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I concur that it is a severe problem. However, where did these rash of peanut allergies come from?? Also, like the rest of PCdom, why is the whole school being inconvenienced to accommodate one (or two) individual(s)?
41 posted on 01/05/2005 6:13:08 AM PST by Conservative Infidel
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To: johnfkerrysucks
My first question is NOT ridiculous.

You stated that your sons could have a reaction by someone BREATHING on them after eating PB.

I asked a simple question - What if a child has a PB sandwich before school (at the bus stop perhaps)?

And I'll ask again, why don't we accomodate the photo-sensitive? Aren't their "special needs" as important as your sons'?

42 posted on 01/05/2005 6:13:33 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Mach9

What we need to do is ban kids!

Heck, liberals have no problem with killing them before they're born...


43 posted on 01/05/2005 6:17:06 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Conservatism pays off. Liberalism just wants to be paid.)
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To: johnfkerrysucks
Are you sure your not a liberal?

Because your sense of self-importance, in conjunction with your ad hominem attacks certainly makes it sound like it.

44 posted on 01/05/2005 6:17:36 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

Proud insensitive, ignorant jerk bump.

(If it's so easily avoidable, why isn't your kid avoiding it instead of making the rest of the world bend to him?)


45 posted on 01/05/2005 6:20:18 AM PST by flada (My other tagline is a Mercedes Benz.)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

No offense, but if it were up to insensitive and ignorant people like you,

Holey Moley. But, moving on, I really don't see how you can, in all conscience, allow your kids to go out into a situation where they might be exposed to peanuts, peanut breath, residual PB & J on sticky fingers, peanut butter cookies... It truly must be frightening to roll the dice every morning when you pack your kids off to public school & the idea of field trips...that's a situ best left unsaid.

46 posted on 01/05/2005 6:21:23 AM PST by elli1
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

The Peanut butter thing is just the latest fiasco. Lets look at the ADFA act. The bill that was passed for handicapped. How much has that bill cost the USA. All the sidewalks torn up and ramps put in , anyone who goes into business building handicapped toilets and having wider aisles for wheelchairs the urinals lowered so now half the urine goes in the floor. The ADA act is a ridiculous answer.It goes on and on automatic doors for the handicapped, special busses. Things that cost millions and are seldom if ever used.


47 posted on 01/05/2005 6:23:30 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: flada
Proud insensitive, ignorant jerk bump.
LOL... just to let you know, the Monthly Meeting of PIIJ's will be on Saturday, Jan 15.
48 posted on 01/05/2005 6:25:22 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: johnfkerrysucks
Having peanuts on one's breath could trigger a similar reaction

Well then, we may as well take the next step - one can't eat peanut butter on toast at home for breakfast then come to school, because they might breath on an allergic person. Are we going to have toothbrush police or somekind of peanut breathalyzer that has to be passed before admission?

Perhaps these children that are so allergic can't go into grocery stores, since there may be some bulk peanuts not in wrappers in the store.

What about a family where the breadwinner works in a peanut factory and comes home with peanut dust on their clothes They pick up and hug their child and the child comes to school with peanut dust on their clothes. Should we have rules about that child being in the same classroom or lunchroom?

Can a non-allergic child not have a snickers bar in their lunch? How about left over chinese food cooked in peanut oil?

I know that probably sounds flippant to you. It isn't meant to. I understand your concern about your child, and it must be incredibly difficult to avoid peanuts and peanut products. When a child is at a location away from your supervision, you must worry all the time.

However, when we cater to the needs of the few pretty soon nothing will be allowed. Some people are deathly allergic to shellfish - maybe we shouldn't allow children to bring a lunch has traces of shrimp in it to school. Some people are incredibly allergic to latex. Maybe we shouldn't paint the school walls with latex paint. Some people are so allergic to cats or dogs that they'll have trouble breathing. Should families with pets have to maintain separate "animal free clothing" so that animal dander won't cause a reaction in sensitive individuals?

I also believe the allergic children should be the ones seated at a separate table rather than the non allergic ones. Unfortunately, they're saddled with this issue and they're going to have a (probable) lifetime of having to deal with it. While you are certainly free to disagree, I believe it isn't doing them (or anyone else) any favors to have them think that the world has to change because of their needs.

50 posted on 01/05/2005 6:30:39 AM PST by not_apathetic_anymore
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