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Microsoft Readies 'A1' Security Subscription Service for its anti-spyware and anti-virus solutions.
MicroSoft Watch ^

Posted on 01/05/2005 10:38:14 AM PST by Happy2BMe

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To: Happy2BMe
If they think I'm going to pay for what should be fundamental to their OS, they can take a flyin' leap at a rollin' donut.
41 posted on 01/05/2005 12:12:34 PM PST by Wheee The People (Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang. Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang!)
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To: Howlin
I had heard that he was going to stop doing it.

I heard that too. You can bet some corporate pig is going to pick it up, and charge for the software and updates.

42 posted on 01/05/2005 12:13:45 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Spiff

Well, unfortunately for me, my company decides such things.


43 posted on 01/05/2005 12:15:10 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: BigSkyFreeper

No doubt; If that is the case, I'll buy Spy Sweeper; I couldn't believe how many things it found that Ad-Ware and SpyBot missed.


44 posted on 01/05/2005 12:15:36 PM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Happy2BMe

OH puhleeze....... I've had enough problems with IE and spyware targeted to IE to ward me off of ever using IE again.


45 posted on 01/05/2005 12:16:09 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: BushisTheMan
Well, unfortunately for me, my company decides such things.

As they should. I can't see good enough reason for a large company to use anything other than Microsoft for Office Automation or for their OS on the common desktop.

46 posted on 01/05/2005 12:18:09 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff

As true operating systems go, it is very weak!!!


47 posted on 01/05/2005 12:25:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: LTCJ; MarkL; goldstategop; MeekOneGOP; Labyrinthos; ShadowAce; B4Ranch; Space Wrangler; Spiff; ...
"But if MS begins SELLING a service that will fix the explotiable flaws in their own product, which, by the way, you only license from them, I have a feeling that there are going to be LOTS of law suits against MS, and they'll have one hell of a time trying to get a favorable jury."

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You've hit paydirt, MarkL.

If Micro$oft were not so greedy and sold their OS at a price point that was within reach of the average PC user, they would be ten times larger and 1,000 times more popular than they are now.

$29 for XP Home and $49 for XP Pro would reap a financial harvest of mind boggling proportions for the MicroFortunes. A pittance of the extra revenue (it would be tens of millions by then) could then go back into developing a more secure operating system.

All those software engineers, so little common sense.

48 posted on 01/05/2005 12:39:54 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As true operating systems go, it is very weak!!!

So, don't buy it. Personally, the suite of features included in Windows XP and its ease of use impresses the heck out of me. I spent $99 on it and I believe I got my money's worth. It certainly works well in my home where my wife and kids can navigate it and use it without much assistance. At work it functions well too. And, yes, I also use different flavors of Unix and Linux (desktop and server) but they are really only suited for specific tasks and services, not for a primary desktop or office automation.

49 posted on 01/05/2005 12:41:47 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Gee, this makes a good incentive for Micro$oft to keep Windoze virus and spyware friendly.

Gotta keep that revenue stream flowing, eh?

50 posted on 01/05/2005 12:46:23 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Happy2BMe

from the creators of the problem, at great expense to consumers, come the solution to the problem, at more expense to consumers.

if bill had left his operating system based on unix, as is the mac, there would not be all of these problems.


51 posted on 01/05/2005 12:49:50 PM PST by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen! (/s))
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To: Arkinsaw

I have pretty much the same setup as you. I downloaded and ran Giant last week and it found a keylogger that AAW, SBSAD, and all the other stuff missed for months.


52 posted on 01/05/2005 12:54:03 PM PST by Musket
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To: Paine in the Neck
MS Business Plan
(1) Develop insecure operating system
(2) Sell security subscriptions
(3) $$$$$$

The Cosa Nostra pioneered this method of doing business

Really. They've got some nerve don't they? This should be included in the cost of the system. Hey MS, you really should re-think this.

53 posted on 01/05/2005 1:01:49 PM PST by Musket
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To: Howlin
I couldn't believe how many things it found that Ad-Ware and SpyBot missed.

No doubt. When Spy Bot showed my system was clean, Spy Sweeper found about a half dozen pieces of spyware.

54 posted on 01/05/2005 1:11:28 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Spiff
I've got the Gentoo version of Linux, and once it's set up and functioning, makes a very useable desktop OS. It's not ready for primetime yet, but it's getting there. I do like XP, just hate the way MS is going to this liscensing model. Here I am, an average joe, and I have to liscence a software program? Gimmee a break. Like you, I like XP, and don't think $99 is completely out of reason IF I owned it. The whole liscenscing scheme has people like me begging for a real alternative. Nothing we can do about it now, but the day's coming when we will get a real choice.
55 posted on 01/05/2005 1:19:01 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Space Wrangler
it's the hours of my life trying to make it work that I want back!

I try not to think about how many hours of hell microsoft's shoddy products have put me through. Fortunately, I no longer support windows computers. Otherwise, I'd probably gone postal some time back. I laugh at all the viruses, worms, and spyware windows users have to deal with. What's even funnier, is that it now takes 5 or six programs in addition to windows just to make a computer somewhat safe to use on the internet. Windows is only inexpensive if you don't value your time or sanity.

56 posted on 01/05/2005 1:53:35 PM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: Spiff
Personally, the suite of features included in Windows XP and its ease of use impresses the heck out of me.

Really? Did they start including a complete office suite with windows now? Do they have an image editor that works on something besides BMPs? Does it come with a fax program, and something to work with your digital camera? (if you have one) Does it give you a choice of multiple different browsers and email programs so you can choose the one that works best for you? Does it have a compiler, debugger, and full-featured HTML editor? Does windows (xp-home) now come with web and http servers?

Perhaps I'd be impressed if it came with all that (and much more besides), like my Fedora Linux distribution did.

57 posted on 01/05/2005 2:03:31 PM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: zeugma
I completely agree, but what can you do? I'm guessing - because I'm a newbie - but I'm guessing that virtually every office in the US is built on Active Directory. Is there even anything else that comes close to AD?

But I'm like you. If I were an island I would've dumped this crap long ago.

58 posted on 01/05/2005 2:04:47 PM PST by Musket
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To: Arkinsaw; Spiff

AVG 7.0 Free user here. Great detection, but one ugly interface. Well, at least I never have to run it.


59 posted on 01/05/2005 2:14:38 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Arkinsaw

What a difference Firefox makes. Still get generic spyware but viruses are almost non-existent.

I bought Norton for an extra PC because I couldn't use my main system to scan it (via the network). The system files were protected. I was concerned that I was accumlating viruses even while I was using Firefox. Not a single virus after six weeks of use.


60 posted on 01/05/2005 2:14:43 PM PST by dhs12345
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