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Kerry Trashes Bush in Baghdad
NewsMax.com ^ | Jan. 6, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 01/06/2005 8:49:58 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

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To: ProudVet77

Understood. But we've made several large mistakes in Iraq

1) Disbanding the Iraqi Army. We should have made them responsible for security. They had 3 corps of soldiers available.

2) Paying for stuff in dollars instead of the iraqi currency. We shot a large hole in what was left of their econimy whith that one.

3) We have missed many opportunities to create "good will" with the locals because of state department weenies who aren't in Iraq.

These obsevations come from a buddy of mine whose an Air Force intel guy who has spent a lot of time in country.


51 posted on 01/06/2005 9:04:11 AM PST by Taylor42
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To: Carl/NewsMax

From a person (John Traitor Kerry) who will not release his military records as I have heard that his first discharge was less that Honorable.


52 posted on 01/06/2005 9:05:18 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Mr. Kerry is a self-centered, supercilious, self-absorbed putz who shows no respect for US troops in Iraq. But then, has experience in THAT department, doesn't he? Schmuck.


53 posted on 01/06/2005 9:05:20 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Carl/NewsMax


This is a disgrace that a former candidate for President of the United States goes on foreign soil during wartime and trashes our President.

He's not only a sore loser who acts and speaks like a pompous fool he is also a disgrace to this country. By saying what he did he encouraged the enemy in their quest to kill more Americans and attack our troops fighting for ALL our freedoms.

Once again he proves to everyone that he was not, is not and never will be Presidential Fodder.


54 posted on 01/06/2005 9:05:37 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: OldFriend

Hey nimrod, check post 51, then talk to me.


55 posted on 01/06/2005 9:06:00 AM PST by Taylor42
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To: Zacs Mom

Was he speaking to the troops or the Iraqi provisional government officials or the press. What a Richard Cephalus.


56 posted on 01/06/2005 9:06:28 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I simply cannot believe this guy after the crap he spewed out during the campaign. I wonder if he'll be negotiating with the insurgents next.

U.S. Senator John Kerry, discusses the state of the war in Iraq with Chief Warrant Officer Donald Hartson, 126th Aviation Battalion, during the Senators visit to Camp Al Tahreer in the Iraqi capital Baghdad, January 5, 2005. Kerry met with Soldiers from his state, asking them what he should tell Congress about the war in Iraq. The troops complained to Kerry that the good work that they are doing is not getting reported in the United States.

57 posted on 01/06/2005 9:06:45 AM PST by Radix (This Tag Line strives to not be redundant, nor to repeat itself!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Actually I'm suprised he wasn't fragged while he was there.


58 posted on 01/06/2005 9:06:46 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: mhking
What's Ketchup Boy doing in Baghdad?

The purpose was ostensibly to visit member of the Massachusetts Nation Guard--you know--the Guard? That organization that was trashed by Terry McAlliffe and friends.

59 posted on 01/06/2005 9:07:28 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Graymatter

AHA! It was a meeting of 20 soldiers from Massachussetts.

What a BS headline.


60 posted on 01/06/2005 9:07:52 AM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: ProudVet77

I wholeheartedly agree. I don't give a damn what this idiot thinks in the comfort of his own home sipping some French wine, but to actually stay those things in front of the troops makes me livid.

Maybe politicians need to take an oath like physicians take in regard to doing no harm. Every time he opens his mouth, he does harm to our troops.


61 posted on 01/06/2005 9:07:52 AM PST by armyavonlady
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To: Carl/NewsMax

The Traitor speaks...sore loser!

And when we all hit our knees tonight we can thank God that this clown was not elected POTUS!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


62 posted on 01/06/2005 9:08:01 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I'll bet the troops were required to leave their weapons at the door for that visit...


63 posted on 01/06/2005 9:08:20 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Carl/NewsMax
I don't get it. Isn't the Senate in session today? What the hell is this traitor doing in Baghdad anyway? Isn't it about time he got back to the work he was paid to do after his 2-year hiatus and the most recent "Holiday" vacation?

Isn't this guy EVER going to come back to work?

64 posted on 01/06/2005 9:08:57 AM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Uncle Vlad
Judging from his remarks, he's there to aid the insurgents terrorists.

There. That's much closer to the truth.

65 posted on 01/06/2005 9:09:29 AM PST by FreedomAvatar
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To: cubreporter
This is a disgrace that a former candidate for President of the United States goes on foreign soil during wartime and trashes our President.

Absolutely. He should have written a confidential report and forward his conclusions to the White House and the Defense Department.

Not only he's demoralizing our troops and encouraging terrorists, he's making sure anything he has to say will be considered political hogwash.

There is a difference between being a statesman and being a politician.

66 posted on 01/06/2005 9:09:40 AM PST by george wythe
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Note to john F'ing skerry, when you are in a hole, stop digging if you ever want to see the light of day again.


67 posted on 01/06/2005 9:09:43 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (This tag line may only be removed by owner.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Was Kerry in front of troops when he made these stupid remarks?


68 posted on 01/06/2005 9:09:56 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: armyavonlady

Once again, my sommelier was outraged!


69 posted on 01/06/2005 9:10:17 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Taylor42
"3) We have missed many opportunities to create "good will" with the locals because of state department weenies who aren't in Iraq."

There may be particular issues in certain places, but the "good will" efforts are much more than you apparently know of.

I have pictures, stories, and even forwarded E-mails from Iraqi civilians which are in conflict with any notion that "good will" is not being applied over there.

70 posted on 01/06/2005 9:10:23 AM PST by Radix (This Tag Line strives to not be redundant, nor to repeat itself!)
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To: Daus

They presented a Purple Heart today to a real Hero with the complete ceremony on the Regis Philbin show this morning! It was aweinspiring complete with the entire extended family and the Commander and Honor Guard with the National Anthem honoring a REAL HERO.


71 posted on 01/06/2005 9:10:25 AM PST by True Republican Patriot
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To: Carl/NewsMax; All
 
trea·son
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noun
1. betrayal of country: violation of the allegiance owed by a person to his or her own country, for example, by aiding an enemy. See also high treason
2. treachery: betrayal or disloyalty
3. act of betrayal: an act of betrayal or disloyalty

  [12th century. Via Anglo-Norman treisoun , “treacherous handing over, betrayal,” from the Latin stem tradition- , from tradere , “to hand over” (source of English traitor, betrayal, and tradition).]

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72 posted on 01/06/2005 9:10:35 AM PST by Stoat
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Kerry, "I am here to give aid and comfort to the enemy, since I lost the election - so there!."


73 posted on 01/06/2005 9:11:59 AM PST by marvlus
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To: NCjim

Yep, once a traitor, always a traitor.


74 posted on 01/06/2005 9:12:02 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

A leapord cannot change his spots, nor a tiger his stripes...


75 posted on 01/06/2005 9:12:39 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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Now, we all know why Kerry was there.

He had to give back all the $$$ that he didn't use for his campaign.


76 posted on 01/06/2005 9:13:14 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: Carl/NewsMax
If these comments are true, what we have here is a man who is pouring gasoline on a smoldering fire, angling to scuttle the Iraqi elections, and get a lot more of our guys killed--with complete malice of forethought.

If someone doesn't rein in these people pretty soon, there's going to be a civil war in THIS country.
77 posted on 01/06/2005 9:13:39 AM PST by Antoninus (Santorum in '08)
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To: george wythe

Well, I think he is not demoralizing our troops cause I think they all know better than that. However what he is doing and saying on foreign soil to me encourages the enemy and if that isn't treason I don't know what is. Seems the Senator hasn't changed much from when he testified back in the 60's. He should hang his head in shame.


78 posted on 01/06/2005 9:13:58 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: nutmeg

I suppose it's hard for the jerk to break a lifetime habit of making bad choices and miscalculations. What a loser!


79 posted on 01/06/2005 9:14:07 AM PST by ride the whirlwind (The smallest Good Deed is better than the grandest Good Intention.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
This guy sounds just like Baghdad Jim McDermott. So glad Lurch isn't our President Elect.

What a despicable dirt bag.

80 posted on 01/06/2005 9:14:22 AM PST by CDB
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To: dirtboy
"Looks like Lurch is already running for 2008. What an anti-American jerkoff."

Looks like Lurch is setting himself up to get clobbered even more if he should be stupid enough to run in 2008.

No one in American presidential elections history has had the press as solidly and openly campaigning for him as Hanoi John Kerry did.
Or had outside groups like the 527's campaign for him as much as Hanoi John did.

The fact that he lost in spite of all that should tell him, that no power on earth can make him win the American Presidency.

Doing his best to demoralize American troops in the field of battle like he did when he came back from Vietnam will merely increase the margin of his loss should he run.
81 posted on 01/06/2005 9:14:23 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Radix

If he had any integrity he would honer their desire to have all their hard work credited. But he won't because it is not about them. You know he went there to undermine the President. May it blow up in his face.......


82 posted on 01/06/2005 9:14:43 AM PST by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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To: Carl/NewsMax; armyman; Arrowhead1952; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; Jet Jaguar; SFC Chromey; ..

Tired of the left lying and accusing the right of imaginary crimes?

Don't be like the Silent Majority in the 60's and 70's
Demand Kerry be ousted from the US Senate!

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

Kerry was an illegal candidate
and is an illegal US Senator per
US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

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Contact the GOP controlled US Senate
AND
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83 posted on 01/06/2005 9:15:30 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (US Senate AND Main Stream Right Wing Media READ US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Wholly Crap what an ahole...

There is a war on....Senator Kerry goes to what are essentially the 'front lines' bad mouths the CnC and gets away with this????

The SOB should be jailed for treason on this occasion alone...

For cryin out loud....the Disloyal Opposition puts selfish partisan desires above all us...God Country Family...and that is bad enough..but Kerry puts his own personal ambition....and the undermine the morale of our fighting men and women knowing full well that demoralized troops ..those whose hearts aren't in the fight...DIE much easier than those who are hard chargers and
whose heads and hearts are in the fight...

Kerry's mouthings also will invigorate the enemy....watch for more IEDs soon....more suicide attacks on troop concentrations where indigenous folks mix with ours...

Any U.S. blood is on Kerry's hands.....AGAIN....

Traitorous bassturd...not worthy of the post of federal used septic tank inspector let alone US Senator...

imo
84 posted on 01/06/2005 9:15:35 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: mhking
I agree - what is J F'n Kerry doing over there? Can't he just ride silently into the sunrise and fade away like a nightmare disappearing with dawns first light?
85 posted on 01/06/2005 9:16:43 AM PST by kc2theline (Support our troops and the CIC that sends them to defend us.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Arrow - who do ya think is paying for this little fieldtrip? Just makes me sick...


86 posted on 01/06/2005 9:17:58 AM PST by armyavonlady
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To: NormsRevenge

Bump


87 posted on 01/06/2005 9:18:23 AM PST by kc2theline (Support our troops and the CIC that sends them to defend us.)
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To: Radix

Quite true. But my friend told me of several attempts to assist locals (in this case an orphanage) that were nixed by state department personnel who were not there.


88 posted on 01/06/2005 9:18:42 AM PST by Taylor42
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To: Carl/NewsMax
probably he did it before he was against it...
89 posted on 01/06/2005 9:20:09 AM PST by an italian (We are proud B countries: Bush, Berlusconi and Blair!!!!)
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To: snowman1

He's looking for that piece of shrapnel so he can get his 4th Purple Heart.


90 posted on 01/06/2005 9:20:34 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Carl/NewsMax

He's still running 2004. Does this have anything to do with today's farce on the Senate floor with Boxer and the rest of the walking dead?


91 posted on 01/06/2005 9:21:59 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Taylor42

The World isn't Perfect, and 20/20 Hindsight is Wonderfully Clear.


92 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:31 AM PST by True Republican Patriot
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To: slowhand520

I wonder if he truly understands that he lost the election? Seems he's delusional!


93 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:49 AM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

94 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:51 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Where does bandwidth go when it is wasted?)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

This is just so wrong that he does this, this John Kerry - that he would go and weaken the resolve of our troops over in Iraq! The man should be reprimanded or censored for doing such a thing.


95 posted on 01/06/2005 9:23:46 AM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Baghdad --

Sen. John Kerry, whose seemingly shifting positions on the U.S. war in Iraq plagued him throughout his presidential campaign, came to this war- torn capital Wednesday to see for himself whether the country was moving toward stability or deeper into chaos.

Kerry, who repeatedly charged during the presidential campaign that President Bush had botched the war effort, was greeted warmly by U.S. soldiers in Baghdad.

"I've been visiting a lot places like Des Moines and Green Bay, and it has been great," the Massachusetts Democrat said during an informal lunch meeting with a small group of reporters and representatives of nongovernmental organizations. "But we are at war, and I think you can't really make all the judgments that you need to make without digging in."

He declined to compare the growing insurgency with the one he faced in South Vietnam as a Navy gunship lieutenant more than three decades ago. But he insisted that superior firepower alone wouldn't quell the uprising disrupting Iraq.

"No insurgency is defeated by conventional military power alone," he said. "Look at the IRA," the Irish Republican Army, which fought a decadeslong guerrilla war against the British in Northern Ireland before a Catholic- Protestant power-sharing government was put in place. "It was defeated by a combination of time and political negotiation."

Kerry, who talked with U.S. intelligence officials and Iraqi officials on Wednesday, was also scheduled to meet with officials of the U.S. Embassy and with members of the interim Iraqi government, including interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi and a deputy to Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, the Shiite leader at the top of an electoral list favored in Iraq's Jan. 30 elections.

U.S. soldiers approached Kerry inside the restaurant of the Rashid Hotel, asking him to pose for photographs and sign T-shirts. The star-struck restaurant manager insisted on serving Kerry the restaurant's specialty, a plate of grilled chicken and lamb.

Later in the day, Kerry met with about 20 soldiers based in his home state, including reservists from the 356th Engineer Detachment and 126th Aviation Company of the Massachusetts Army National Guard at Camp Victory, where soldiers are bivouacked in luxury villas once inhabited by Saddam Hussein and his loyalists.

"They all joked about how living conditions had changed since Sen. Kerry was in Vietnam," said David Wade, the senator's communications director.

Kerry was scheduled to fly on a C-130 military transport plane today to visit troops in Fallujah and Mosul.

The senator said he was more interested in asking questions of soldiers, U.S. officials, Iraqis and even the journalists themselves instead of rehashing the political battles of the past campaign season.

But in several instances, Kerry attacked what he called the "horrendous judgments" and "unbelievable blunders" of the Bush administration. The mistakes, he said, included former U.S. occupation leader Paul Bremer's decisions to disband the Iraqi army and purge the government of former members of Hussein's Baath Party. Both moves are widely believed to have fueled the largely Sunni insurgency.

"What is sad about what's happening here now is that so much of it is a process of catching up from the enormous miscalculations and wrong judgments made in the beginning," he said. "And the job has been made enormously harder."

He added, however, that it was time to move forward.

"Mistakes have been made," he said. "Now, it's a different time and different set of judgments that have to be made. I'm here to make judgments about what moves are available to us." Kerry is visiting Iraq as part of a Middle East tour that also includes meetings with leaders in Egypt, Israel and the Palestinian territories. He said success in Iraq was vital as part of the struggle for wider change in the Middle East.

"The stakes are very important, very high, and not just for Iraq," he said. "You have another election in the West Bank, a set of challenges to Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the region that are quite daunting."

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=311341&page=1

96 posted on 01/06/2005 9:24:32 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

The only thing missing was him sitting on an Insurgent aniti-aircraft gun.


97 posted on 01/06/2005 9:24:32 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: True Republican Patriot
They presented a Purple Heart today to a real Hero with the complete ceremony on the Regis Philbin show this morning!

Regis got a purple heart? :) Just kidding... that would have been cool to see.
98 posted on 01/06/2005 9:25:21 AM PST by Daus
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Kerry garbage and lying exposure bump to the top!


99 posted on 01/06/2005 9:25:38 AM PST by Soaring Feather (As the sun warms my bones...you warm my soul...moonlight has the magic to make our love grow...)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


100 posted on 01/06/2005 9:26:33 AM PST by E.G.C.
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