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About Half of 'Miracle Babies' Have Disabilities by Age 6
The Washington Post ^ | January 6, 2005 | From News Services

Posted on 01/06/2005 3:16:36 PM PST by neverdem

FINDINGS

Nearly half of all infants born extremely premature have significant learning and physical disabilities by the time they reach school age, the largest such study has found.

Medical advances have allowed doctors to save earlier and smaller babies.

Normal pregnancy is 37 to 42 weeks. Neil Marlow, a neonatologist at the University of Nottingham in Britain, and colleagues looked at 241 children about 6 years old who had been born between 22 and 25 weeks. They found that 46 percent had severe or moderate disabilities such as cerebral palsy, vision or hearing loss and learning problems; 34 percent were mildly disabled; and 20 percent had no disabilities. They report the findings in today's New England Journal of Medicine.

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In Study, Antibiotics Effective Against Lou Gehrig's Disease

Antibiotics could one day help patients suffering from neurological diseases, scientists said yesterday.

If a family of antibiotics produces the same effect in humans as it did in mice, researchers from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore believe the drugs could help to prevent nerve damage and death in illnesses such as dementia, stroke and epilepsy.

In studies of mice genetically engineered to develop amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or Lou Gehrig's disease, researchers discovered that daily injections of the drug ceftriaxone improved survival and reduced symptoms of the disease that attacks nerve cells and causes paralysis and death.

They found that the drug turned on a gene that increased the number of transporters that remove the brain chemical glutamate from nerves. Glutamate usually helps electrical signals travel from one nerve to another, but too much of the chemical can kill nerves.

A team led by Jeffrey Rothstein, a professor of neurology and neuroscience, reported the findings in the journal Nature.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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1 posted on 01/06/2005 3:16:36 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Nearly half of all infants born extremely premature show no significant learning and physical disabilities by the time they reach school age, the largest such study has found.
2 posted on 01/06/2005 3:23:21 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: neverdem

NEWSFLASH! More than half of all infants born extremely premature have no significant learning and physical disabilities by the time they reach school age, the largest such study has found.


3 posted on 01/06/2005 3:24:09 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: Eepsy

Yeah, what you said!


4 posted on 01/06/2005 3:25:16 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: TXBubba

Where does that come from? It contradicts the article.


5 posted on 01/06/2005 3:25:18 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder

Does it?


6 posted on 01/06/2005 3:25:41 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Eepsy

Thank you for correcting that.


7 posted on 01/06/2005 3:26:08 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: TXBubba

Yes, nearly half do show signs; more than half don't.


8 posted on 01/06/2005 3:26:35 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder

Okay. I agree with you. Thank you for your correction.


9 posted on 01/06/2005 3:27:29 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: neverdem
Medical advances have allowed doctors to save earlier and smaller babies.

BS. I was born 34 years ago. I was 2 months premature. I've had CP since birth and lost 80% of my hearing in both ears by the time I turned 6. Aside from that, I'm pretty damn healthy and fortunate to have lived a helluva lot longer than the doctors expected me to 34 years ago.

10 posted on 01/06/2005 3:29:48 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: SittinYonder
Yes, nearly half do show signs; more than half don't.

How do you derive that statement? Here's what the article said:
They found that 46 percent had severe or moderate disabilities such as cerebral palsy, vision or hearing loss and learning problems; 34 percent were mildly disabled; and 20 percent had no disabilities.

I read that as 80% with problems (46% severe), 20% without.

11 posted on 01/06/2005 3:30:18 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: TXBubba; Eepsy

That happened to be the first title in a regular feature called "FINDINGS". I was most interested in the research on ALS, aka Lou Gehrig's disease. A friend of mine was diagnosed with it.


12 posted on 01/06/2005 3:30:32 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Hank Rearden
Nearly half of all infants born extremely premature have significant learning and physical disabilities by the time they reach school age, the largest such study has found.

More than half of all infants born extremely premature do not have significant learning and physical disabilities ...

13 posted on 01/06/2005 3:32:44 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Hank Rearden

I don't consider Cerebal Palsy a "problem". I guess that's what one would consider adapting.


14 posted on 01/06/2005 3:32:45 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Good to hear from you. Love your attitude. My twin nephews were born 7 weeks early in 1980. Both have CP to different degrees. They are the coolest kids I know.
15 posted on 01/06/2005 3:33:14 PM PST by getitright (There's no peace in appeasement.)
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To: Eepsy
NEWSFLASH! More than half of all infants born extremely premature have no significant learning and physical disabilities by the time they reach school age, the largest such study has found.

and many that are born with disabilities are surviving and reaching school age.

16 posted on 01/06/2005 3:33:46 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

And what is considered a "mild" disability? My hubby is blind without glasses is that a "mild" disability? And he was a month LATE.


17 posted on 01/06/2005 3:35:52 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


18 posted on 01/06/2005 3:36:01 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: getitright

Some researchers I've read say that most kids with motor disabilities are the best and brightest kids. Cerebal Palsy DOES NOT affect learning. Cerebal Palsy is largely a motor disorder.


19 posted on 01/06/2005 3:36:11 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Hank Rearden

Normal pregnancy is 37 to 42 weeks.

(study cohort was) born between 22 and 25 weeks.

also worth noting, IMO


20 posted on 01/06/2005 3:36:30 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: SittinYonder

I think we're just arguing semantics here, but roughly half have severe problems - that's significant. Can't say I'm surprised; getting into the world far too early certainly doesn't aid development.


21 posted on 01/06/2005 3:36:55 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden

But roughly half don't have those problems. Why isn't that noted. I think the reaction is due to the fact that the negative is emphasized with a possible push for abortions.


22 posted on 01/06/2005 3:38:49 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Hank Rearden
I'm just pointing out that rather than saying nearly half do have severe problems they could have just as easily been a little more optimistic to say that more than half don't. In fact, I think what's significant is that more than half don't have severe problems. As you said: Can't say I'm surprised; getting into the world far too early certainly doesn't aid development
23 posted on 01/06/2005 3:41:10 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder; Hank Rearden

It's like arguing whether the glass is half full or half empty.


24 posted on 01/06/2005 3:43:01 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Right.


25 posted on 01/06/2005 3:44:19 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
My son was born at 26 weeks and weighed a little over 2.5 lbs at birth. We did the incubator thing for six weeks before taking him home.

He was a four year varsity wrestler in high school, and doesn't need glasses, unlike his mom and pop.

Today he's enrolled at Texas A&M with well over a B average, and I think he could kick my butt physically if he were so inclined. If he was harmed by being a preemie, I don't see it.

26 posted on 01/06/2005 3:45:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: TXBubba

And CP occurs at birth. It doesn't get worse. The damage done.


27 posted on 01/06/2005 3:46:05 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: TXBubba
possible push for abortions.

Maybe, though my first thought was only half? Twenty years ago the numbers were a lot different.

28 posted on 01/06/2005 3:48:25 PM PST by lizma
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To: neverdem
Nearly half of all infants born extremely premature have significant learning and physical disabilities by the time they reach school age, the largest such study has found.

<LeftSpeak>The compassionate thing would have been to smother them at birth.</LeftSpeak>

29 posted on 01/06/2005 3:52:21 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://blog.c-pol.com?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Until someone uses the phrase that "babies born very prematurely should be aborted rather than born because nearly half have severe disabilities." Studies such as this one that are promoted with a glass-is-half-empty slant are often used to advance an agenda. Why start with the negative rather than the positive?


30 posted on 01/06/2005 3:53:49 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Dog Gone

Wow, but I bet you would be just as proud a papa, if your son used a cane or wheelchair,and was blind and still enrolled at A&M with an A average:'). It's a blessing when we have children without impairments but there is a place in this world for the little ones that fight to survive too.


31 posted on 01/06/2005 3:54:06 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Hank Rearden

Sorry, I meant to ping you to my post 30 also:

Until someone uses the phrase that "babies born very prematurely should be aborted rather than born because nearly half have severe disabilities." Studies such as this one that are promoted with a glass-is-half-empty slant are often used to advance an agenda. Why start with the negative rather than the positive?

I see an agenda being advanced. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not just a lunatic. ;-)


32 posted on 01/06/2005 3:56:12 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder
Until someone uses the phrase that "babies born very prematurely should be aborted rather than born because nearly half have severe disabilities." Studies such as this one that are promoted with a glass-is-half-empty slant are often used to advance an agenda. Why start with the negative rather than the positive?

I can remember when I was in my late teen years telling my folks that I felt absolutely guilt-ridden for being a burden on them growing up as a child, and my Mother nearly flattened me on my keister, pointed her finger at me, and told me she never felt a shred of guilt and she said "your father didn't either".

33 posted on 01/06/2005 3:58:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

My 8 year old daughter has severe brain damage from an illness at 6 weeks old. On a scale of 0-10, she's a 5 on the amount of brain damage.

She can walk, run, and swim. She one of the top math students in her class. Her doctors can't believe that she isn't in a wheelchair.

She does have problems. She has severe speech and language problems and it does affect her reading and writing. She'll never talk normal, but she understands everything.

Looking at her, you'd never know that there is anything wrong with her.

With the correct therapies, many kids with disabilities can do so much. They can become very productive members of society.

I'm glad your doing well!


34 posted on 01/06/2005 4:03:11 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: SittinYonder

Yesterday there was a thread supposedly about a single woman that lost her job and couldn't get assistance to pay her 1000 dollar plus rent. At first glance it seemed just a "you owe me" attitude but I'm not so sure that the true intent wasn't to warn expecting mother's how terrible it might be if you decide to have your baby. No one will help you. I don't know. Maybe, I was way off.


35 posted on 01/06/2005 4:03:34 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Dog Gone

I thought it was worth pointing out how the study is intentionally skewed to show negative results, nothing more. My baby Sis' story is like that of your sons.


36 posted on 01/06/2005 4:04:09 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Dog Gone
Premies are certainly doing a lot better today than they were a generation ago.
I had a cousin born at 26 weeks in 1973. He died from complications from Hyaline membrane disease after a few days. I was born in 1977 at 31 weeks, and suffered from Hyaline membrane disease and difficulty is controlling my body temperature. In fact, was clinically dead for a bit when I simply stopped breathing. Fortunately, there was a pediatric resuscitation team.
Aside from asthma and poor night vision, and poor motor-skills relative to IQ, I am fine.
37 posted on 01/06/2005 4:05:40 PM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: SittinYonder; Hank Rearden; All
I see an agenda being advanced. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not just a lunatic. ;-)

I think you're correct. Here's the actual title and a link to the abstract.

Neurologic and Developmental Disability at Six Years of Age after Extremely Preterm Birth

38 posted on 01/06/2005 4:10:47 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: TXBubba

I would say it is about neo-natal costs not abortion. When do they become eligible for SS?


39 posted on 01/06/2005 4:11:25 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: CindyDawg
Like any dad, I'd be proud of my son if he was performing anywhere close to his abilities, no matter how high or small those might be.

We dodged a bullet. I'm fully aware what the risks were. My stinkin' father-in-law, a physician, encouraged us NOT to give my son a name at first, because he assumed he would die.

I ought to remind him of that someday.

40 posted on 01/06/2005 4:21:17 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: rmlew
Yes, it's become much more common to see early babies do well even with earlier births. My son was born in 1984 and he was on the edge at that time. That edge has been moved at least a couple of weeks earlier since then thanks to improved medical techniques.

It's heartbreaking to see little fetuses struggling for life, and the outcome isn't always great. But it certainly does give one an appreciation for how precious life is.

41 posted on 01/06/2005 4:27:16 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: neverdem
About Half of 'Miracle Babies' Have Disabilities by Age 6

Use extensive methods to deliver infants that wouldn't have survived a
generation ago...and the doctors are suprised that a fair percentage have
developmental problems?

You don't have to be a heartless Darwinist to expect that sort of outcome.

(And I'm NOT saying the best efforts shouldn't be made for infants at risk.
I'm just suprised that even some baby docs are suprised at this outcome.)
42 posted on 01/06/2005 4:28:17 PM PST by VOA
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To: neverdem; Hank Rearden; BigSkyFreeper; CindyDawg; TXBubba; All

It pays to read these things thoroughly. I went to the EPICure Study Group website and only then did I realize that the Washington Post was lumping the 22 percent with severe disabilities in with the 24 percent moderate disabilities to reach their "nearly half." I'm more convinced there is an agenda from the Washington Post. Read what the people who conducted the study had to say here: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/human-development/EPICure/041229%20EPICure%20Study%20and%20BLISS%20press%20release.htm


43 posted on 01/06/2005 4:30:57 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: neverdem

This study supports the info I found after we had PPROM at 17w. Just getting to 24 weeks seemed like a miracle at that point. IIRC, the survival rate at 24w is around 50% and conventional wisdom is that the significant disability rate of survivors is equal to the survival rate.


44 posted on 01/06/2005 4:31:42 PM PST by mikegi
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To: Trout-Mouth
I would say it is about neo-natal costs not abortion. When do they become eligible for SS?

I see where you are coming from. But in the end the neo-natal costs or SS will be too high and abortion will be promoted. When the issue becomes money then the issue isn't pro-life.

45 posted on 01/06/2005 4:46:50 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: CindyDawg
I'm not so sure that the true intent wasn't to warn expecting mother's how terrible it might be if you decide to have your baby

I'm sure I've told you this before. My ob/gyn wanted us to get genetic counseling after our mid-term ultrasound showed "water on the kidneys" in our son. Apparently that is a "soft" sign of Down's. I chose to go to a hospital closer to our home. She wasn't happy because "they won't do abortions there after 24 weeks". Gee, who would I want to get the counseling from, the ones who would abort or those who had no stake in the thing? Anyway, our son was born perfectly healthy. The "water on the kidneys" is just how his kidney is formed. Like an innie versus an outie belly button. How many mom's have been scared into abortion over such a stupid thing!!!

46 posted on 01/06/2005 4:50:30 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: SittinYonder; neverdem; Hank Rearden; CindyDawg; TXBubba; All

Of course there is a hidden agenda. The WaPo distorts the real truth, and makes those who have had or are thinking about getting an abortion feel good about themselves.


47 posted on 01/06/2005 4:51:43 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: TXBubba

Wow, then are you saying you are for fixing SS because I see all kinds of posts that are pro-life yet against the elderly for wanting SS. But then again I see the mood of many on this board representing pro-life yet turning on the elderly because of AARP and SS. I suppose because this is about 'the children' and when it comes to the children money is insignificant and we will figure out a way to pay for this welfare/health program. Sorry for the sarcasm but socialism is socialism. It only is different depending on who (which generation) is wearing the shoes.


48 posted on 01/06/2005 5:55:15 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: neverdem

"research on ALS, aka Lou Gehrig's disease"

This newsbit is potentially of huge importance. The whole issue of dementia and other neurological degeneration will only increase as the population ages. As octogenarians are becoming commonplace even now, the aging boomers will be facing these illnesses in great numbers beginning in the next decade or so.


49 posted on 01/06/2005 6:00:37 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard; All
letters to nature,"Beta-Lactam antibiotics offer neuroprotection by increasing glutamate transporter expression"
50 posted on 01/06/2005 6:13:33 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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