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Reputed Klansman arrested in 1964 Neshoba County (MS) civil rights slayings
Ledger-enquirer.com ^ | 11-6-05 | SHELIA BYRD

Posted on 01/06/2005 6:49:14 PM PST by WKB

PHILADELPHIA, Miss. - Reputed Ku Klux Klansman Edgar Ray Killen was arrested late Thursday on murder charges in the 1964 slaying of three civil rights workers in Neshoba County, officials said.

Neshoba County Sheriff Larry Myers told The Associated Press that Killen, a 79-year-old preacher, was arrested at home without incident.

The arrest came after a daylong grand jury meeting Thursday that apparently included testimony from people believed to have knowledge about the killings.

"We've got several more to arrest, but we went ahead and got him because he was high-profile and we knew where he was," Myers said.

Myers said Killen was being held on three counts of murder. Calls to Killen's home late Thursday were answered by a recording.

Neshoba County District Attorney Mark Duncan said during the grand jury hearing that arraignments would be held Friday morning.

The grand jury considered whether sufficient evidence existed after 40 years to bring charges in the crimes that were dramatized in the movie "Mississippi Burning." Killen was identified in testimony in earlier federal court proceedings as having a role in the killings.

Mississippi has had some success reopening old civil rights murder cases, including a 1994 conviction of Byron de la Beckwith for the 1963 assassination in Jackson of NAACP field secretary Medgar Evers.

But until recently there has been little progress in building murder cases against those involved in the Ku Klux Klan slayings of civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner.

Seven Klansmen were convicted of federal conspiracy charges in the killings and sentenced to prison terms ranging from three years to 10 years. None served more than six years. But the state never brought murder charges.

"After 40 years to come back and do something like this is ridiculous ... like a nightmare," said Billy Wayne Posey, one of the men convicted. The graying Posey, supported by a cane, refused to say what he expected to be asked by the grand jury.

Goodman's mother, Carolyn Goodman, said she "knew that in the end the right thing was going to happen."

"As I have said many times before, I'm not looking for revenge. I'm looking for justice," Goodman, 89, said from her home in New York.

Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner were among hundreds of Freedom Summer volunteers, mostly white college students, who came to Mississippi in 1964 to educate blacks and help them to vote. The three were beaten and shot to death. Their bodies were found later in an earthen dam.

Chaney, a 21-year-old black man, was from Meridian, Miss. Goodman, 20, and Schwerner, 24, were from New York.

Jackson attorney James D. McIntyre, who declined to identify his client but said he was on the defense team during the 1967 trial, was critical of prosecutors.

"It appears to be a sad day for the state of Mississippi," McIntyre said. "The investigation that has being brought forth - the prosecutors, news media - I just hate to see it happen."

McIntyre said all he new of the reopened case is "what I read in the newspaper and it appears there has been a lot of judgment made concerning the guilt or innocence of a lot of these people."

Ben Chaney, the younger brother of James Chaney, called the latest investigation a sham that may target one or two unrepentant Klansmen but spare wealthy and influential whites who he said had a hand in the murders.

He said he and others had asked Hood early last year to turn the case over to the FBI with the goal of having a special prosecutor named to take up the investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: 1964; edgarraykillen; kkk
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1 posted on 01/06/2005 6:49:15 PM PST by WKB
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To: selucreh; RebelDS; The Loan Arranger; Malichi; L98Fiero; ducks1944; LoudRepublicangirl; smonk; ...

Mississippi Ping


2 posted on 01/06/2005 6:50:30 PM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB

Er, I think you got the date wrong, either that or your crystal ball is shineing tonight.

Should be: Jan. 06, 2005


3 posted on 01/06/2005 6:55:29 PM PST by konaice
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To: Baynative
Are you watching Hillary?


This has to do with truth and justice.
It doesn't apply to the Clintons.
5 posted on 01/06/2005 6:57:56 PM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB

My goodness.
If he did it, then good.
I hope they get everyone involved.


6 posted on 01/06/2005 6:58:12 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: dixiechick2000

After all one of the victums was a hometown boy for you.


7 posted on 01/06/2005 6:59:37 PM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB

Yes, he was.
That was a terrible time in my
neck of the woods.


8 posted on 01/06/2005 7:00:21 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: dixiechick2000

"I hope they get everyone involved."

What a difference. Go to a Muslim website when they arrest a cleric (I love that term) for similar crimes, and you'll see a whole bunch of apologists come out of the woodwork, claiming that he's being persecuted. Somehow I doubt I'll see that in FR.


9 posted on 01/06/2005 7:01:02 PM PST by BobL
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To: WKB; konaice
The Ledger-Enquirer is in Columbus, GA. The link to Fort Benning gave it away. :-)

ff

10 posted on 01/06/2005 7:01:06 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: foreverfree

It took forever to find it on a page I could post from.


11 posted on 01/06/2005 7:03:09 PM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB

You have a point... can't wait to vote her out in 2006.


12 posted on 01/06/2005 7:03:20 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Baynative

bttt


13 posted on 01/06/2005 7:03:30 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: WKB

"We've got several more to arrest, but we went ahead and got him because he was high-profile and we knew where he was," Myers said.

Is Senator Byrd one of them?


14 posted on 01/06/2005 7:07:04 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ("Hi, I'm Richard Gere and I'm speaking for the entire world. -Richard Gere)
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To: WKB

I spent a little bit of time in Neshoba County when I was growing up. I used to ride with an elderly lady to her home, and it was usually between 11:30 and 12:30 at night. (she was an RN, and she got off work at 11:00pm.) It was dark and quiet and downright eerie sometimes. I can only imagine what it was like in the early 60s. I know that if I were a Yankee in Mississippi in those days I wouldn't have been driving through that area of Mississippi. Day or night.

My father always carried a gun when he was driving through rural Mississippi, which he did often. Of course, he never used it. (at least not that I know of)


15 posted on 01/06/2005 7:07:32 PM PST by petitfour
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To: LauraleeBraswell

BWAHAHAHA! That's a good one.


16 posted on 01/06/2005 7:07:34 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: petitfour

I know that if I were a Yankee in Mississippi in those days



It's still not REAL safe for some yankees down here. :>)


17 posted on 01/06/2005 7:09:43 PM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: cyborg

You have a point... can't wait to vote her out in 2006.


So she will have 2 years to run freely for President?


18 posted on 01/06/2005 7:11:07 PM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB

Yes I think she will run for president, the way she's been talking :(


19 posted on 01/06/2005 7:13:42 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: BobL

Bumping a good comment!


20 posted on 01/06/2005 7:13:58 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: cyborg

Why do I have a feeling that it would have beenpointed out if the good preacher was a Republican? Does anyone else notice the glaring silence in the matter of his political affiliation in this article?

The KKK was started by democrats and the dems have a long standing affiliation with the klan. The KKK hosted the democrat national convention in New Jersey in the 1920s. So, I am curious about what party this man belongs to.


21 posted on 01/06/2005 7:14:41 PM PST by Dana113
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To: Dana113

Probably a democrat!


22 posted on 01/06/2005 7:15:54 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Dana113; cyborg

He is of the right age to still be a yellow dog democrat.
I will keep an eye out for that bit of info as I follow this case.


23 posted on 01/06/2005 7:20:39 PM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB
It's still not REAL safe for some yankees down here. :>)

It's safe enough for them if they stay south of I-10.

24 posted on 01/06/2005 7:25:16 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Dana113

Hopefully he doesn't belong to either party. I have a sneaking suspicion that today's ultra-left Dem party probably revolted him. Having said that, there are plenty of old timer Democrats (in the Senate ...) who still more than likely believe what they believed in their "youth"..

May he get his day in court and if guilty may he get what he deserves.


25 posted on 01/06/2005 7:29:13 PM PST by koba37
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Is it just me, but don't a lot of these KKK guys named Ray or Edgar?


26 posted on 01/06/2005 7:30:05 PM PST by koba37
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Is Senator Byrd one of them?

I was just about to ask when the special election would be held to replace Byrd.

27 posted on 01/06/2005 7:31:37 PM PST by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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Edgar Ray Killen
28 posted on 01/06/2005 7:33:53 PM PST by deport (If it weren't for stress... I'd have no energy at all.)
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To: WKB

What a shame that a murderer could walk the streets fro 40 years without being arrested.


29 posted on 01/06/2005 8:18:16 PM PST by jsbankston
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To: koba37
Is it just me, but don't a lot of these KKK guys named Ray or Edgar?

Most of these clowns can't spell Ray or Edgar.

30 posted on 01/06/2005 8:28:06 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Conservatism pays off. Liberalism just wants to be paid.)
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To: WKB

DANGER, DANGER!! It is sad to see that fellow conservatives have no institutional memory -- or that any of you appear aware of the real meaning of this.

The 3 men killed were NOT "civil rights workers". They were communist agitators. Notice the article doesn't give their names, only the mother's name. She is the mother of Andrew Goodman. Goodman's father was the owener of Pacificia Radio in New York City. He was a communist. Check out Pacificia Radio's own web site and see how they (transparently) dissemble the truth. Go to:

http://www.kpfa.org/2m_hist.htm

(Look at the chronology circa 1962. I don't know why they got the date wrong.)

What's the real meaning here? The Justice Department's crypto communist lawyers have now got sufficient control of the apparatus that they are going after their old adversaries. Just like Pinochet in Chile. Be warned -- the Department of Justice is honeycombed with crypto communists in their legal ranks. WAKE UP TO THE REAL THREAT!!!


31 posted on 01/06/2005 8:47:35 PM PST by C0ldWarri0r (Read Golitsyn!! Perestroika Deception)
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To: WKB

Bump for Justice. Even at 79 years, if this man is guilty of that horrible murder, he deserves to die before his time.


32 posted on 01/06/2005 8:48:08 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: C0ldWarri0r
Yes, the stench of politics here. How many wicked criminals have long, long gone into oblivion? Politics drove this one. I wonder if O.J.Simpson stands any chance of getting re-arrested at 79 years of age- whoops, sorry, the rate he is going he has ten more years of debauchery. This is before they wheel him in to a rest home.

I do not condone what this man is said to have done, but how in the name of tarnation all these years later, can he get a fair hearing?.

33 posted on 01/06/2005 8:59:37 PM PST by Peter Libra (Steady in the ranks)
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To: C0ldWarri0r
What's the real meaning here? The Justice Department's crypto communist lawyers have now got sufficient control of the apparatus that they are going after their old adversaries.

Are you Klan?

And, the article does name them:

But until recently there has been little progress in building murder cases against those involved in the Ku Klux Klan slayings of civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner.

A black and two Jews. The worst kind of people in Mississippi in the 60s, outside of those nasty Papists.

"Commie agitators" was code in the segregationist south for anybody who thought blacks should be equal. And oh how those ole boys hated anybody who thought separate drinking fountains were an abomination.

Do you guys still call the FBI "Hoover boys"?

When somebody starts telling me, a 54 year old white male who grew up in Texas, that I don't "know what it was like back then" when the "negras" wanted the vote, that I don't have the "institutional memory", I start looking for the sheets.

34 posted on 01/06/2005 9:07:32 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: C0ldWarri0r
I see the spirit of Bull Connor lives on.

How you could justify the beatings, murders and burial in an earthen dam by the Klan is beyond me--unless you think the Klan's role as judge, jury and executioner is appropriate.

35 posted on 01/07/2005 5:57:12 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: C0ldWarri0r
The Justice Department's crypto communist lawyers have now got sufficient control of the apparatus that they are going after their old adversaries.

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. The Mississippi AG is behind this investigation. This guy was arrested on STATE charges, after the AG convened a grand jury in Philadelphia. There is no "federal interference" here, period.

This is Mississippi taking care of its own problems (however belatedly). At least, give us credit for that.

36 posted on 01/07/2005 6:35:32 AM PST by bourbon (works best when angry)
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To: bourbon

Somtimes God takes His time... imagine how many years the man had to live with himself only to get caught in his dottage and live the rest of his years in jail. Justice comes even if it is slow.


37 posted on 01/07/2005 6:37:44 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg
True enough. Even the criminals who aren't caught by the authorities suffer, whether it's from a burning conscience (Crime and Punishment?) or from eternal retribution. It is wise to keep that in mind.
38 posted on 01/07/2005 6:42:08 AM PST by bourbon (works best when angry)
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To: C0ldWarri0r

I see the "old south" still gasps for air at the edge of the swamp.


40 posted on 01/07/2005 6:44:10 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: C0ldWarri0r
Innocent until proven guilty. I thought it was still the format. As for myself, never heard of the man Killen, until now. Did a lot of reading on some old left wing pocket books at the time- still have them.

I do not suppose the "Weathermen" et al lose any sleep these days..Hillary defended home grown American terrorists in a torture murder case. Ho hum, I guess, ones views do get flamed here. I checked your profile. Glad you got your views across. I do not have to agree with them- like anyone else.

41 posted on 01/07/2005 9:41:04 AM PST by Peter Libra (Steady in the ranks)
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To: C0ldWarri0r

"The 3 men killed were NOT "civil rights workers". They were communist agitators."

It's legal to kill communists?


42 posted on 01/07/2005 12:39:48 PM PST by PugetPower
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To: sinkspur

Outstanding reply!


43 posted on 01/07/2005 2:08:17 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Is Senator Byrd one of them?

Good question. Sheets was in charge of recruiting, in his role as Grand Kleagle, so one would assume that this fellow Klansman's recruiter should be tried.

44 posted on 01/07/2005 6:31:55 PM PST by Outraged (Time to put pressure on the party)
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To: sinkspur

Very good reply! Kudos!


45 posted on 01/07/2005 6:55:12 PM PST by DaGman
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To: C0ldWarri0r

Go back, being from the past! Go back while you still can! Go back before the worm hole closes and you must remain here in the 21st century for the rest of your life! Go, now!


46 posted on 01/07/2005 6:56:54 PM PST by DaGman
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To: C0ldWarri0r
The 3 men killed were NOT "civil rights workers". They were communist agitators.

I find it ironic that Communists who do not believe in voting would go down to Mississippi to Register Black people to vote.

Great insight you have there. And you claim to have once worked in "Military Intelligence." Look like you put the Moron in the adage of "Military Intelligence" being an oxymoron.

47 posted on 01/07/2005 10:10:52 PM PST by jsbankston
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To: petitfour; WKB; dixiechick2000; onyx; bourbon

I woulda carried a pistol in the South Bronx had it been legal back when I lived there in the 80s as well and yep...because I'm 100% peckerwood.

I do carry a firearm when driving around my hometown of Jackson Mississippi which has become a veritable war zone in most parts in our new enlightened age.

Driving while white is dangerous too in places in cases you have been hiding in North Dakota.

Blacks run nearly all municipalities and black counties in Mississippi now. The bottom rung done moved up as they say.

Which is why they and politicians of all stripes who want to make hay are on these cases with good PR on their side. Justice with a TV camera following ya all around is not only noble but good for one's career.

But I can tell ya....30 years after Jim Crow has been dead and buried down here....it's a mixed bag.

Don't be looking for anybody to be trumpeting cases involving black on white crime which is endemic. No political hay to be made.

That's just how it is. Mississippi is 40% black and largely poor. This is where the realities of the Great Society rubber meets the road.

I have no answers. I just know it's in some ways better and in other ways ...much much worse....for everybody. Not to say the old ways were better but some of the old racists worst nightmares have come true. Did this happen because of Jim Crow or is it more than that? I don't know.

Anybody figure it out....give me a holler.

Unlike most Yankees in their fairly segregated worlds...lol...in Mississippi...you can segregate...and they do...black and white....mostly by choice.

BUT UNLIKE UP NORTH.....you cannot hide down here. Segregated or not....blacks and whites are gonna get to know one another apart from TV shows and football games...the good, the bad, and the uglee.


48 posted on 01/07/2005 10:50:03 PM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: wardaddy

"I'm 100% peckerwood."


You might want to 'splain the term "peckerwood"
for those who may not know what it means. ;o)


"Unlike most Yankees in their fairly segregated worlds...lol...in Mississippi...you can segregate...and they do...black and white....mostly by choice.

BUT UNLIKE UP NORTH.....you cannot hide down here. Segregated or not....blacks and whites are gonna get to know one another apart from TV shows and football games...the good, the bad, and the uglee."


Oregon is not Yankee territory.
But, my daughter has had several black friends move
back to their Southern home state.
The reason for this is that, as they told her, they
"feel" the the unstated prejudice out here.
It is unsaid because it would be unPC...but it's there.
They felt like they, at least, knew where they stood,
prejudice or not, in the South.
And, having lived most of my life in the South, I agree.

On that note, I'm off to bed.
Good to see you. ;o)


49 posted on 01/07/2005 11:13:10 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: bourbon

"This is Mississippi taking care of its own problems (however belatedly). At least, give us credit for that."


Big ole bump. ;o)
Good to see you, and hope all is well with Mrs. bourbon.
Please, give her my best.


50 posted on 01/07/2005 11:15:05 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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