Posted on 01/06/2005 10:49:25 PM PST by FairOpinion
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and lawmakers prepared for battle on Thursday over his ambitions to restrain state spending and avoid tax increases in a budget proposal due next week.
Schwarzenegger vowed on Wednesday to seek voter backing through ballot measures if his agenda is blocked by lawmakers. "If we here in this chamber don't work together to reform the government, the people will rise up and reform it themselves. And I will join them," he said.
"You'll clearly have a partisan divide because what Schwarzenegger basically said is 'We've got a spending issue, not a revenue issue," said Larry Gerston, a San Jose State University political scientist. "When it comes to fiscal issues, he is extraordinarily conservative."
Schwarzenegger will not shrink from a showdown with Democrats, predicted Steven Frates of the Rose Institute of State and Local Government at Claremont McKenna College: "My guess is the governor is not going to flinch … Schwarzenegger got elected on the basis of correcting dysfunctional government."
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One would think, everyone here would applaud this.
I hope our next governor after Arnold is done with his term/s is as conservative with the $ too. I'm tired of these libs spending our hard earned tax money. I pay sometimes as much as 17K a year on taxes, i'm not rich either.
There IS an Arnold accomplishment list.
You can just read his State of the Union speech, he mentions several right there.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/01/05/transcript05.DTL
He is Tom McClintock's idol right now I am sure.
One would think that conservatives would cheer Arnold, when he is standing up and fighting for fiscal conservatism: no taxes and lower budget.
PING!
About as much chance of that as a 15 day snow storm in Los Angeles.
When talking about McClintock, I usually stop at the fact, that he is UNELECTABLE in CA.
But if he miraculously would get elected, he could not accomplish anything, because he refuses to compromise, it's all or nothing, and he gets obsessive about that, and so he usually gets nothing. That's why he has nothing to show for his 20 years in the CA Senate. Heck, he even voted for the car license bill he pushed himself, because he couldn't get everything immediately, it was phased in.
How much do you think a guy like that could accomplish as a leader/CEO of the state. He never ran a business, he spent his time in the ivory tower of the Senate pontificating.
Arnold came to this country with nothing, and by his own power, and some luck, of course, he built up several businesses and is successful in everything he undertakes.
Arnold is OK, but after what McC did in the last election, it is not about Arnold, it's about not liking or wanting McC.
Yea I couldn't vote until recently when i got my citizenship. But my buddy at work gave me a mclintock sticker and i had it on my car when Mclintock was running for office against the terminator. I did get my citizenship intime to vote for Prez Bush :)
All for one, and that one is ME!
Just think, prior to 1933, there were no taxes. Prior to 1964 there were no MediCare/Medicade taxes. What you earned, you put in your pocket.
hmmmm The good old days. yea i'm not that old yet but taking a man's taxes for good things is one thing. But supporting lame causes and the welfare people just doesn't cut it for me.
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I'm none too happy about his position on the bond issues; yet more debt when we can't pay for the current budget right now. Since the majority of the budget is on autopilot, pushing for cuts in spending (or at least not spending any more!) are virtually impossible.
The real shocking thing is that the folks in Sacramento must have been kidnapped by aliens - because some of the more wild spenders are agreeing that there needs to be changes in the automatic increases in spending.
And there has been a sudden absence of talk about raising taxes and fees. To add to the insanity, they're actually bringing up the idea of raising college fees.
I hope he joins us. I can overlook his liberal social views if he gets California moderates on board to rein in the leftist loons here for good.
I think if he wishes to win this battle, he can.
In some ways his celebrity has helped him. He certainly has private funds that can skirt around the Dems and buy good advisors to advise how to achieve his objective.
Special interest constituents will be in uproar, but the majority of people generally favor their pocket. Economically this would be a winning issue with Californians.
Attempts to re-district may be more difficult to pull off, but tax cuts and cuts in spending are conceivably doable and I support Arnold in this.
Regardless of anything else that happens, Arnold has already won because he will not raise taxes, not in a million years.
Maybe he won't but that won't stop the legislature.
It would take a super-majority of the legislature to raise taxes. I don't think the scumbag Democrats will be able to dredge up enough RINOs to put them over the top.
He may not raise state income taxes, but he has already raised fees and his latest proposal is to shift teachers pension benefit obligations to the local level, without any funding. That most certainly will trigger an increase in local taxes.
He may still retain his celebrity status and bogus title of "fiscal conservative", but his legacy is building quickly and it is NOT a pretty sight.
The government is not "taking your taxes."
The government is confiscating your labor. Think of it as a prisoner working on a government civilain chain-gang for 3-6 months. Then you are set free to get to work earning an income for your home and family members.
I used to explain this to my kids when they were very young. Today, as twenty year old children, earning incomes and seeing 30% otheir income confiscated buy the government, the kids goof on me about the chain-gang analogy.
I warned 'em. And as my Dad said to me 40 years ago, "Cheer up son, it's going to get worse." And my Dad was right.
The only way out of this mess is to cut services, cut taxes, eliminate the ridiculous regulations California has on businesses, and let the free market do what it does best without government interference.
That's funny. I remember Arnold supporters telling me he wouldn't violate our Second Amendment rights either. And lo, he did just that.
Maybe he won't but that won't stop the legislature.
It would take a super-majority of the legislature to raise taxes. I don't think the scumbag Democrats will be able to dredge up enough RINOs to put them over the top.
I wouldn't hold my breath. It's unbelievable how many tax lovers there are.
trust me there will NEVER be a republican governor in california apart from swarzenneggar. the state is too liberal. he is doing an excellent job of "looking like" a liberal in some ways but by winning the match for our team.
quit bitching about him and support him.
Banning guns is not "looking like" a Liberal. It is being a Liberal. Adding $6 BILLION MORE to the state debt is not "looking like" a Liberal. It is being a Liberal.
And for your information, we've had plenty of Republican governors before Schwarzenegger and we'll have plenty after him as well.
quit bitching about him and support him.
You can have him. I don't live in his state. I don't support those who support abortion. Period.
Somehow I get the sense that "angel-of-death" doesn't live in California either. If he does, he sure as hell doesn't have a clue as to the state's history and Arnold's liberal antics.
The idiot just TOOK CREDIT! for the new conservancy, in his speech, which bottles up water under a commission that surely will be staffed by a bunch that make the Sierra Club look like neo-cons by comparison. Then he suggests getting a panel of liberal CA judges to determine assembly districts. Why not just let the Dem Party into the room and be done with it - and keep the GOP out.
Look at the bills he just signed. That's how you tell. He play acts at being governor. And the act is wearing thin. You wait and watch WHAT BILLS HE SIGNS! WHAT PROGRAMS HE REALLY PROPOSES. Who gets in. Who's out. What's going on eight months or two years from now.
Frankly, I don't want Dem Party control of the state of CA any longer. I should have voted McClintock, even though the guy's opportunism in light of the LA Times hit piece against Arnold turned me way. I should have. I should have. I didn't. I do regret it, very much.
Everyone is. That's why Prop 13 passed in CA. Partly that's why Davis is a memory. People forget that the GOP sector of CA can rise up on occasion. They think of CA as 'blue', because Arnold seems more Dem than Republican. But so far he's stuck to his rhetoric not to raise personal income taxes, since property taxes are off the table. I hope he extends this to licenses and business fees, as well. I give Arnold all the credit in the world for that. But I don't think he'll be as good as his promise. He's a Dem at heart. Taxes are the money that grows on trees to a Dem. Look at the 'severance' package Raines just got at Fannie Mae - over $100M dollars for completely screwing up the agency. Just throw money at him - heck, it just grows on taxpayer trees, after all. Arnold tends in that direction. I think fees will go up. I already see park fees increased dramatically, and there are toll takers that weren't there before, as well. I suspect moving violations on highways will become much more expensive, court fees, certain filing fees. What else has he got? It takes backbone to cut spending, as he promised. I don't think he's got it in him. I think McClintock would have, and would have been far less showy about it. Cutting real spending means working one's way into 'mandates', CA-own and federal. Those have to be destroyed.
Yea i agree, and the DMV is raised my truck reg from 350 last year now to 600, btw its cause its around 20,000lbs GVW, but it's my private truck/toy.
Come on Folks, we need pictures of Arnold for Captioning. Give me a good one in his suit with him speaking - Like at the Republican Convention!
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