Skip to comments.The Silent Muslim Majority IS the Problem
Posted on 01/07/2005 4:22:14 AM PST by rdb3
I am overwhelmed with sadness over the state of the Muslim world. I am looking at the photograph of an Iranian woman about to be stoned to death in Iran, buried to her waste in dirt to keep her from running away.
A few weeks ago, I read about a 14 year-old Iranian boy who died after receiving 85 lashes for the sin of eating in public in the month of Ramadan. Salah Uddin Choudhury has been in prison for one year in Bangladesh for the crime of urging his nation to recognize Israel and advocating interfaith dialogue among equals as well as warning against the growing power of Islamists in Bangladesh.
What are Muslim community activists in America doing about their homegrown brutal human rights violations? They are silent.
The picture of the stoned woman has been seen by some Muslims I know in the Middle East and also fellow Americans, Christians and Jews. The first reaction by the Muslims was what did she do? while the first reaction by Americans was How could this happen?
The Muslim majority here in the US remains silent seeing the outrageous brutal medieval-style and inhumane punishments practiced in many parts of the Muslim world. Americans, who are puzzled by the silence of the so called moderate Arab-Americans after 9/11, do not understand that Arabs learned to be silent and indifferent to terror before even coming to America. Generations after generations of Muslims lived under dictatorships and were trained to look the other way when Muslims tortured and terrorized other Muslims. The result is a population de-sensitized to seeing brutality and horror. Too many of them see cruel punishment as normal. Their silence over the killing was not just an insult to America after 9/11, but is aiding and abetting the cruel culture of hate, terror, torture and beheadings.
Arab men, known for machismo, are doing nothing while watching such horrible injustice happen to their women and children. There is no uprising by Arab women over the inhumanity and cruelty their sisters in Islam are suffering. She must have done something really bad! one Muslim woman said to me after seeing the picture. By that, she of course meant having sex outside of marriage. 2000 years after Christianity abandoned stoning as a form of punishment, Islam still continues to practice it.
Even Muslim groups who live with Western freedoms are not making a strong stand to stop this cruel practice. There is a petition being circulated on the Internet by mostly non-Muslim or former Muslim groups to save the life of yet another Iranian woman from being stoned to death. On the other hand, many Muslim women in America, all the while enjoying Western freedoms, are busy covering their ankles, complaining about the French law against wearing religious symbols in French public schools or filing law suits to get their faces covered up on their drivers licenses in America.
These hijab-wearing Muslim women expressed no outrage over the brutal murder of Margaret Hassan in Iraq, a British woman who dedicated 30 years of her life to helping Iraqis. How many properly covered up Saudi, gulf state, Egyptian, Syrian or Jordanian women went to Iraq, Iran, Algeria or Sudan, to help their sisters and brothers in Islam as did Margaret Hassan? The answer is practically none. That job was usually left to Westerners who do it out of their Judeo-Christian inspired sense of humanity.
Most Islamic studies professors and Islamist groups in America exercise their freedom of speech given to them by America, but only when speaking against America, Judaism, Christianity, President Bush and Pat Robertson. However, they never dare to criticize their culture of origin and some even still have respect for the tyranny of the old country. They leave the job of ridding the Muslim world of terror to the victims of terror, namely America and Israel. Whenever they criticize the Muslim world it is in the context of blaming America for supporting dictatorships. However, when America attempts to bring democracy and get rid of Arab dictators they turn around and accuse America of occupation or empire building. No matter what America does, they voice criticism. That can only mean they do not seem to be serious about reformation in Muslim countries. They are, however, very serious about embarrassing, criticizing and hurting America.
Many Muslim groups and Middle East studies professors are aligning themselves with the liberal hate America crowd in Western academia and media. Three days after the Tsunami in South Asia, I saw an Arab-American leader criticize Americas response as slow and too little, too late on CNN. They have the audacity to criticize America and give a free pass to the oil rich Arab countries that should be the first to respond financially to save their poor Muslim brothers and sisters in Indonesia.
Islamism and the old defeated and failed ideology of pan-Arabism is what many Islamic groups in America are advocating. They are silent in the face of Muslim poverty, corruption, neglect of human rights, oppression of women, honor killings and the brutal and unusual punishments such as cutting off limbs, flogging and stoning. They are not using American freedoms as an opportunity to change their countries of origin, but as an opportunity to influence and change America to be like the countries they came from. Their goal is also to keep Muslim-Americans under their control and the control of Muslim world mullahs, sheiks and dictators they should have left behind. How can any one take them seriously when they do not lift a finger to protect human rights in Muslim countries, but are militant in turning Arab-Americans into yet another voting block to influence American politics? They take no stand to protect the life of the Muslim woman being stoned and explain away such atrocities and beheadings while crying profiling in America by the FBI.
Wahhabi Islamist groups in the West are dreaming of a day when Sharia Islamic laws that call for stoning women come to America and dominate the whole world. That is why Muslims in the West are not outraged over this picture.
Arab-Americans should reject Islamist groups and become part of the solution and not part of the problem in America. Let the history books say that Arab-Americans were the seed and cause of change in the Middle East. Let us stand behind President Bush in trying to bring about democracy in the Arab world. Let us form active genuine peace groups and reach out to other religions. Let us celebrate the freedoms America has given us by extending our compassion to the victims of terror left behind in our countries of origin. That should be the mission of Arab organizations in America and not the silly anti-American causes they are pursuing with the blessings from the enemies of America.
Arab-Americans should no longer stand silent before acts of terror and beheadings on our fellow brave American men and women in the US armed forces as well. America should never allow the poison of medieval-style justice and morality to penetrate its psyche under the guise of multiculturalism. It is time for America to hold Muslim countries and culture responsible for terrorism. Those countries are waging a two-faced war against the West while hiding behind their terrorists and their sacred veils.
Yes, the silent Muslim majority is the problem. Their silence is empowering not only the terrorists and brutal dictatorships, but all of the cultural, political and social pathologies behind them. Arab- Americans who speak out might be called heroes by some. However, speaking out of love and gratitude for America is the duty of all American citizens.
Is it a Norwegian or an International saying that states that the road to hell is paved with good intentions?
Good night, I need to run..
I remember giving President Bush a pass when he said that Islam is TROP shortly after the 9/11 attacks. I figured he took an optimistic approach because he is the leader of our nation and did not want to give rise to religious conflicts among the citizenry.
But Islam is not TROP. It's Satanic. What you said here is what is indeed going on in the U.S. I can't see how we could ban Islam with our First Amendment. Nevertheless, we are engaged in World War IV, and our two-front battle is with Islam as a whole and worldwide Leftist enablers who would rather have us bend over for Islam rather than fight back.
I'm ambivalent about nuking Mecca. But if we make it glow in the dark, I wouldn't shed a tear.
"Generations after generations of Muslims lived under dictatorships and were trained to look the other way when Muslims tortured and terrorized other Muslims. The result is a population de-sensitized to seeing brutality and horror. Too many of them see cruel punishment as normal."
compelling illustration of why Islam has no place in a civilized world.
"The reason that "moderate muslims" are silent is because they don't exist"
There used to be "moderate moslems" in the Middle East, back in the 1940's. You guessed it, the Islamo-maniacs killed them all. These people are really just abhorrent.
The Western World doesn't need this sh*t.
MOUNT ARAFAT, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- Saudi Arabia's top cleric used the high point of the annual Muslim pilgrimage to denounce terrorists, calling them an affront to Islam. But he defended the kingdom's strict interpretation of the faith.
The Islamic intellectual stated that in Islam "to kill innocent people is haram" [forbidden].
"The super powers should try by all means to stop terrorism immediately," the scholar said, asserting that any terrorist captured should be killed or jailed for life. "If they kill innocent people, they should be killed, if they do not kill but threaten with violence, they should be jailed for up to twenty years or more," he said.
According to Professor Dumbuya, both the Sharia (Islamic law) and Western law agree on the legalities involved in meting out punishment to perpetrators of terrorism.
On the question of State House Imam Fatty's statement that the US government should be blamed for the attack because of their policies, Professor Dumbuya refused to comment, claiming that only "half educated Muslims will support terrorism."
"I am a doctorate, I do not consider half educated people who support terrorism in Islam because they do not know the Quran or the hadith," he said.
ISLAMABAD, Oct 18 (News Agencies) - Maulana Tahirul Qadri, controversial leader of the Pakistani Awami Tehrik Party, condemned Osama bin Laden and appealed to the Taliban leadership not to risk thousands of lives for him.
Towing a marked different line from other Pakistani religious parties, Qadri also criticized the Taliban for giving refuge to bin Laden.
"Bin Laden is not a prophet that we should put thousands of lives at risk for," he said.
He urged Muslims to "see the difference between jihad [struggle] and acts of terrorism."
"Bombing embassies, or destroying non-military installations like the World Trade Center, is no jihad," Qadri said, and "those who launched the September 11th terrorist attacks not only killed thousands of innocent people in the United States, but also put the lives of millions of Muslims across the world at risk."
JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabias highest religious authority on Wednesday condemned as a sin the deadly shooting rampage at a U.S. consulate, and local newspapers reported one of the slain assailants was a former employee of the nations religious police.
What happened on Monday regarding the storming of the U.S. Consulate in Jiddah, using weapons and explosives, killing innocent souls, petrifying secure ones, and undermining security in the kingdom are all forbidden acts and grand sins, al-Sheik said.
Islam does not condone the mutilation of the bodies of the dead, he told some 600 worshippers. Why do you want to bring destruction to our city? Why do you want to bring humiliation to the faithful? My brothers, wisdom is required here.
A radical Muslim cleric was taken from his Saudi Arabian prison cell at the weekend and paraded on prime-time television to recant over his support for violent extremists and to denounce suicide bombings.
Sheikh Nasser al-Fahd, 35, told millions of Saudi viewers that "blowing oneself up in such operations is not martyrdom, it is suicide".
He said: "We did not think matters would reach this point. My message is: fear God and repent your mistakes. It is not shameful to admit mistakes."
One of the world's most influential Islamic leaders has condemned all attacks by suicide bombers at an international conference for Islamic scholars.
Grand Sheikh Mohammed Sayed Tantawi of the Al-Azhar mosque of Cairo - which is seen as the highest authority in Sunni Islam - said groups which carried out suicide bombings were the enemies of Islam.
Speaking at the conference in the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur, Sheikh Tantawi said extremist Islamic groups had appropriated Islam and its notion of jihad, or holy struggle, for their own ends.
I could go on... Google is our friend... But the un-American religious bigots' likely response: "La la la we're not listening la la la."
I'm beginning to think the MSM doesn't want us to hear these voices, since that would make W seem right and they can't have THAT!
the moslem majority s speaking, the pundits refuse to believe
Any attempt to introduce anything to their people but their cult results in murder. That is kind of the problem.
Granted, oftentime in these speeches there's a lot of opposition to the American-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, but what did one expect? "Please bomb us!"? The Pope himself opposed the wars.
"It is good that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it." Isn't that how the saying goes?
Of course, she's now a fundamentalist Christian. How do you tell?
Yeppers...Robert E. Lee, December 13, 1862, on Marye's Heights at the Battle of Fredericksburg.
BAGHDAD, May 12 Iraqis strongly condemned Wednesday, May 13, the beheading of an American citizen in Iraq by unknown people, saying it is against the true essence of Islam.Muslim Scholars Denounce Berg's Beheading
Dr Muthana Harith al-Dhari, Secretary General of [Sunni] Muslim Scholars Association, strongly denounced the killing, saying it runs counter to the teachings of Islam and "does disservice to our religion and our cause."
CAIRO, May 12 - Several scholars from Al-Azhar, the world's highest Sunni religious authority, condemned the decapitation of an American civilian by unknown people in Iraq, saying Islam stands against such acts.
"Islam respects the human being, dead or alive, and cutting off the American's head was an act of mutilation forbidden by Islam," Ibrahim Al-Fayoumi, a member of Al-Azhar's Islamic Research Academy, told IslamOnline.net.
On with the show:
Top Saudi religious authority condemns terrorists. MOUNT ARAFAT, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- Saudi Arabia's top cleric used the high point of the annual Muslim pilgrimage to denounce terrorists, calling them an affront to Islam. But he defended the kingdom's strict interpretation of the faith.
Nice try, but the cleric was speaking specifically about ANTI-MUSLIM terrorism within Saudi Arabia, nothing else. from January 31, 2004
African Islamic Professor Condemns Terrorism, Praises Muslim Charitable Organizations, This article originally appeared in The Independent, Banjul, The Gambia, West Africa, October 26, 2001.Nice, but old. All of non-radical Islam was doing major damage control at this point in time, 10/26/01. Has the Prof followed up and tried to straighten things out since?
Pakistani Cleric Condemns Bin Ladenfrom October 18, 2001, see above comment.
Saudi cleric condemns U.S. consulate attackfrom December, 2004, but the Saudis are running a little scared right now and need to make nice with the US;
Fallujah cleric condemns mutilationsfrom April 2003, too bad no one picked up on his lead...hopefully he hasnt been murdered;
Radical cleric condemns the bombers; A radical Muslim cleric was taken from his Saudi Arabian prison cell at the weekend and paraded on prime-time television to recant over his support for violent extremists and to denounce suicide bombings, 11/24/03.
Hmm, changed his tune after 3 days in a Saudi jail? He would have admitted to being Willy Wonka if they wanted him to.
Cleric condemns suicide attacks, 07/11/03No comment, he seems to be for real, I hope he hasn't been murdered yet.
Abdul, this is still a MINORITY, there are a LOT of Muslims throughout the world and they need to speak out against the Islamofascists that are hijacking their religion, and Islamofascist apologists who whine and agitate and talk through their hats, like you, only make things worse for them.
Yeah, a thumbprint, like at the airport. Do it to everyone, I have no problem with that.
No, she doesn't fit the profile, other than having a foreign name, which could be East Indian, but having a foreign name is not in the profile. Was she at a Muslim Love Fest with 1000s of other Muslims, some of whom might be on watch lists? Is she part of a large group, some of whom may not speak English, and dress traditionally? Does her appearance raise "red flags" in any way?
No, of course not, and that never was the problem.
FinallyOf course, she's now a fundamentalist Christian. How do you tell?Easy, no head covering, or Burkha, and probably no attitude.
According to THEIR scriptures, these attrocities are not human rights violations. They are just obeying their own (phony) religion.
Islam looks like it fits the description spoken of in Daniel of "..the abomination of desolations."
Like the liberals do, they use the freedom of our country against us.
I do, but besides that, let me ask...what will be done with this thumbprint under your proposal?
Easy, no head covering, or Burkha, and probably no attitude.
How about Asma? She's Muslim.