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Translation of Mexican Invasion Handbook
sre.gob.mx ^ | 01.07.05 | GUIA DEL MIGRANTE MEXICANO

Posted on 01/07/2005 10:58:33 AM PST by VU4G10

 

Translation of Mexican Invasion Handbook

GUIDE FOR THE MEXICAN MIGRANT

Translation into English from Spanish provided by INFOMUNDO.US as a public service.

Original document GUIA DEL MIGRANTE MEXICANO, accessible on the website

http://www.sre.gob.mx/tramites/consulares/guiamigrante/default.htm

 

FIRST PAGE

    • Audio (Windows Media)
    • Track 1: Mexican Consulates
    • Track 2: Services of Mexican Consulates
    • Track 3: Rights of Migrants

INTRODUCTION, PAGES 0 - 1

Dear fellow citizen:

This guide tries to provide you with some practical advice that may be useful to you in case you have made the difficult decision to seek new work opportunities outside of your own country.

The safe way of entering another country is by first obtaining your passport, which is issued by the Delegations of the Secretariat of Foreign Relations, and your visa, which you request at the Embassy or Consulate of the country to where you wish to travel.

However, we actually see many cases of Mexicans who try to cross the northern border without the necessary documentation, crossing high-risk zones that are very dangerous, especially in desert areas or rivers with strong and not always noticeable currents.

INTRODUCTION, PAGES 2 - 3

As you read this guide you can also learn some basic questions about legal consequences of your stay in the United States of America without appropriate immigration documents, as well as the rights you have in that country once you are there, independently of your immigration status.

Always keep in mind that there are mechanisms for you to enter the United States of America legally.

In any case, if you encounter problems or difficulties, remember that Mexico has 45 Consulates at its disposal in that country, whose contact information you also can find in this publication.

Identify your Consulate and go to it.

RISKS, PAGES 4 - 5

DANGERS OF CROSSING IN HIGH-RISK ZONES

Crossing the river can be very risky, especially if you cross alone and at night..

Thick clothing increases your weight when wet and makes it hard to swim or float.

RISKS, PAGES 6 - 7

If you cross in the desert, try to travel when the heat is not so intense.

Highways and towns are very far apart, so that it could take you several days to find roads and you will not be able to carry food or water for that long; you could even get lost.

Salted water helps you retain body fluids. Although you get more thirsty, if you drink salted water the risk of dehydration is lessened.

Dehydration symptoms are:

? Little or no perspiration

? Dryness of eyes and mouth

? Headache

? Fatigue and exhaustion

? Difficulty in walking and reasoning

? Hallucinations and mirages

If you get lost follow utility poles, railroad tracks or furrows.

BE CAREFUL OF ALIEN SMUGGLERS, PAGES 8 - 09

BE CAREFUL OF "POLLEROS", "COYOTES" OR "PATEROS" [Various names for alien smugglers)

They can deceive you by assuring you they'll cross you [smuggle you across the border] at certain times over mountains or through deserts. This is not true! They can put your life in danger leading you through rivers, irrigation canals, desert areas, along railroad tracks or freeways. This has caused the death of hundreds of people.

If you decide to use the services of "polleros", "coyotes" or "pateros" to cross the border, consider the following precautions to take:

Don't let him out of your sight; remember that he's the only one that knows the terrain and therefore is the one that can get you out.

Do not trust anyone who offers to cross you over to the "other side" and asks you to drive a vehicle or carry a package for him. Regularly those...

BE CAREFUL OF ALIEN SMUGGLERS, PAGES 10 - 11

...packages contain drugs or other prohibited substances. For that reason many people have ended up in jail.

If you transport other people you can be confused with an alien smuggler and be accused of alien smuggling yourself or even vehicle theft.

Don't hand over your minor children to strangers that offer to cross them to the United States.

DO NOT USE FALSE DOCUMENTS, PAGES 12 - 13

DO NOT USE FALSE DOCUMENTS OR DOCUMENTS OF OTHER PEOPLE, NOR DECLARE A FALSE NATIONALITY

If you try to cross with documents that are false or that belong to someone else, keep the following in mind:

The use of documents that are false or that belong to someone else is a Federal crime in the United States, for which you can be criminally prosecuted and end up in jail; the same as if you give a false name or say you are a U.S. citizen when you are not.

Do not lie to U.S. border crossing or inspection booth agents.

IF YOU ARE DETAINED, PAGES 14 - 15

Do not resist arrest.

Do not assault or insult the officer.

Do not throw stones or other objects at the officers nor at the patrol cars, because this is considered a form of provocation.

If the officers feel they've been assaulted they will probably use force to detain you.

Raise your hands slowly for them to see you're unarmed.

Do not carry or hold any objects that could be construed as weapons, such as: lanterns, screwdrivers, blades, knives or stones.

IF YOU ARE DETAINED, PAGE 16 / YOUR RIGHTS, PAGE 17

IF YOU ARE DETAINED

Don't run or try to escape.

Don't hide in dangerous places.

Don't cross freeways.

It's better for you to be detained for a few hours and be repatriated to Mexico than to get lost in the desert.

YOUR RIGHTS

IF YOU ARE ARRESTED, YOU HAVE RIGHTS!

Give your true name.

If you are a minor and are accompanied by an adult, tell the authorities so they do not separate you.

YOUR RIGHTS / YOUR RIGHTS, PAGES 18 - 19

Your rights are:

To know where you are.

To request to speak to the nearest Mexican Consulate representative in order to receive help.

Do not make statements or sign documents, especially if they are in English, without the aid of a defense attorney or Mexican Government Consulate representative.

To receive medical attention if you are injured or in poor health.

To receive respectful treatment regardless of your immigration status.

To be transported safely.

To have water and food when you need it.

You are not obligated to disclose your immigration status when you are detained.

YOUR RIGHTS, PAGES 20 - 21

To not be hit or insulted.

To not be held incommunicado.

In case they take away your personal effects, request a voucher in order to claim them when you are released.

If there is any violation of these rights, it's important for you to inform your attorney or Mexican Consulate representative that visits you or even the nearest Delegation of the Secretariat of Foreign Relations within Mexico.

If you wish more information and you live in Texas or in Ciudad Acuña, Coahuila, tune in to "The Powerful Station" at AM 1570.

IF YOU ARE ARRESTED / DETAINED, PAGES 22 - 23

IF YOU ARE ARRESTED / DETAINED

If you already were sentenced for some crime or you are facing criminal prosecution an a jail, you have the following rights:

To not be discriminated against by the police, the courts or prison authorities.

To receive visits from consular officials and family members.

To receive appropriate legal counsel without conditions or obstructions.

If you being criminally prosecuted and have not yet been sentenced, ask your attorney or consular representative what the "Plea Agreement" consists of.

Do not plead guilty without first consulting your attorney about the possibilities of winning your case if you go to trial.

It's important they you know the laws of the American state where you live and work, since each state's laws are different. Bear in mind the following information:

If you drink don't drive, since if you do not have papers you can be detained and deported [a bit of INFOMUNDO editorializing here: no word about maiming or killing yourself or others as a drunk driver!].

If a legal resident is cited more than two times for drunk driving, he can be deported.

Do not drive without a driver's license.

Observe traffic signs and signals and use your seatbelt.

Do not drive without auto insurance nor drive an unknown vehicle.

[THINGS TO] AVOID, PAGES 24 - 25

Do not pick up strangers.

If you commit some traffic violation and are detained by the police, place your hands on the steering wheel and do not get out of the car until the officer requests you to do so.

Avoid calling attention to yourself, at least while you are arranging your residence papers to live in the United States.

The best formula is not to alter your routine of going between work and home.

Avoid noisy parties because the neighbors can get upset and call the police, and you could be arrested.

Avoid fighting.

If you go to a bar or night club and a fight starts, leave immediately, since in the confusion you could be arrested even if you did not do anything wrong.

Avoid family or domestic violence. As in Mexico, it is a crime in the United States.

[THINGS TO] AVOID, PAGES 26 - 27

Domestic violence does not consist solely of hitting others but also can be threats, shouting or mistreatment.

If you are accused of domestic violence against your children, your mate or someone else who lives with toy, you could go to jail. In addition, Child Protective Services authorities could take away your children.

Do not carry firearms, bladed weapons or other dangerous objects.

Keep in mind that many Mexicans have died or are in prison because of these things.

If the police enters your house or apartment, do not resist, but ask to see a search warrant. It's better to cooperate and ask to speak to the nearest Mexican Consulate.

CONSULATES, PAGES 28 - 29

The Secretariat of Foreign Relations has 45 consular representatives within the U.S and on its southern border, which are designed to help you. Remember: if you have been detained or are serving a sentence, you have the right to speak with the nearest Mexican Consulate. Always carry your "Guide to Consular Protection" with you at all times.

Get Near to the Consulate...

Embrace Mexico.

It's your home, fellow countryman!

- Secretariat of Foreign Relations

- General Administration of Protection and Consular Matters.

CONSULATES OF MEXICO IN THE UNITED STATES, PAGES 29 - 30

List of U.S. Cities and phone numbers.

STATES - [MEXICAN] STATE GOVERNMENT OFFICES - DIRECTORY OF OFFICES GIVING ATTENTION TO MIGRANTS IN THE REPUBLIC OF MEXICO, PAGES 31 - END

List of Mexican cities and phone numbers.

BOX ON LAST PAGE:

This consular protection guide is not promoting the crossing [of the border] of Mexicans without legal documentation required by the government of the United States; its objective is to make known the risks implied and to inform about the rights of migrants regardless of their legal residence.

 



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; conspirators; guide; handbook; illegal; immigrantlist; mexico
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1 posted on 01/07/2005 10:58:34 AM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

OK, quick legal question: since this booklet can be reasonably argued as promoting a criminal act, it woudl seem that rippign it off woudl be reasonably ok. Consequently... how illegal would it be to re-print it with some... changes?

"When crossing the desert, make sure to bring as many salty snacks as possible."

"When crossing the river, wear lots of cotton and wool."

"When crossing major highways at night, you can never wear dark enough clothes."


2 posted on 01/07/2005 11:03:00 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: VU4G10

BTTT


3 posted on 01/07/2005 11:03:42 AM PST by spodefly (This message packaged with desiccant. Do not open until ready for use or inspection.)
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To: VU4G10

Yesterday someone was wanting to see this translated but I can't remember who. Thanks.


4 posted on 01/07/2005 11:03:57 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: VU4G10
Needs a happy ending


5 posted on 01/07/2005 11:06:48 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: VU4G10
I've been hearing about this for several days and I've been upset by it. But, now that I read it, I'm not that troubled.
6 posted on 01/07/2005 11:12:07 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: All

NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico (Reuters) - The number of illegal immigrants detained on the U.S.-Mexico border jumped in late 2004 as the U.S. government tightened security, although some border agents said it only signaled that more people were crossing the frontier.
The U.S. Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (USBCBP) said 194,576 undocumented migrants were arrested crossing the border in the period from Oct. 1, 2004, to Jan. 4, up almost 13 percent from the same period a year earlier.

The government said improved security was behind the rise in arrests.

But border patrol agents said the rise in detentions simply reflects how more Mexicans have been crossing the border since President Bush announced last year a plan to legalize the status of illegal Mexican migrants.

"This is clearly tied in with President Bush's call after his re-election to revive the guest worker program," said T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, an association representing 10,000 rank-and-file agents. "Migrants are rushing over the border to take advantage of that."

The USBCBP data comes nearly a year after the United States and Mexico agreed to tighten security on their border, seen by some as the soft underbelly for the U.S. war on terror.

"The numbers of detentions are up because we have more agents, more flexibility and more technology that contributes to us stemming the flow," Luis Gonzalez, acting spokesman for the USBCBP, said in a telephone interview from Washington.

Recent efforts by U.S. authorities to tighten border security include the allocation of a further 200 agents, four helicopters and an unmanned aerial surveillance drone to the U.S. Border Patrol in Arizona in an initiative last March.

Each year, more than 1 million undocumented migrants attempt to slip across the rivers and deserts that mark the 2,000-mile border in search of work in the United States. Almost half of them come through Arizona.


7 posted on 01/07/2005 11:16:56 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


8 posted on 01/07/2005 11:25:40 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: JustAnotherSavage

I did ask. but a while ago.


9 posted on 01/07/2005 11:27:58 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: VU4G10

It's not quite as bad as I had anticipated. Still, it comes awfully close to being an act of war.


10 posted on 01/07/2005 11:31:43 AM PST by thoughtomator (Flush twice, it's a long way to France)
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To: VU4G10; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
PING...
11 posted on 01/07/2005 11:33:08 AM PST by OXENinFLA (I WILL find all those *%#$ING LITTLE GREEN FROGS in Metal Gear Solid!!!)
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To: VU4G10

unreal--and it's both democrats and republicans at fault


12 posted on 01/07/2005 11:39:50 AM PST by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: thoughtomator
It's not quite as bad as I had anticipated.
Still, it comes awfully close to being an act of war.

Ridiculous statement Bump

13 posted on 01/07/2005 11:42:25 AM PST by PRND21
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To: VU4G10
It's too bad that we have no one in our Executive Branch (and few in the Legislative and Judicial Branches) with enough cojones (pardon my Spanish) to point out that any government which actively encourages its own citizens to emmigrate has de facto admitted its own failure as an institution, as well as the failure of its citizenry to act in a caring and compassionate manner toward one another. Such a government has no sense of its own sovereignty or nationhood, and is just begging for a popular revolution by true patriots.
14 posted on 01/07/2005 11:43:56 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: PRND21

It is totally ridiculous, isn't it? That's our border situation for ya.


15 posted on 01/07/2005 11:51:42 AM PST by thoughtomator (Flush twice, it's a long way to France)
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To: VU4G10

Quite frankly, I am outraged about it.

If this is on the up and up, then where is Canada's guide to illegal entry to the US?


16 posted on 01/07/2005 11:54:34 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: thoughtomator

Well, at least it advises them to stay out of trouble.

Dunno about the advice to drink salty water, however.


18 posted on 01/07/2005 12:14:14 PM PST by sinanju
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To: orionblamblam

Beware of patriotic gringos caring guns along the border - they are very pissed about invaders!


19 posted on 01/07/2005 12:21:44 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Budweiser

Act of war without a doubt. They are advocating and aiding the invasion of our country.


20 posted on 01/07/2005 12:27:29 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: gubamyster; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
Translation of Mexican Invasion Handbook - ping

21 posted on 01/07/2005 1:04:05 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: orionblamblam; VU4G10; All
Translation of Mexican Invasion Handbook

* * *

A Wetback's Guide To An Illegal Lifestyle In America
(Courteousy of The Mexican Government)

* * *

* * *

"The Mexican embassy says the booklet is an effort to save lives, and denies that it encourages illegal immigration. The booklet is being distributed as a free insert in a popular Spanish-language cowboy comic book and over the Internet. Mexico has published more than a million copies of the guide."

* * *


22 posted on 01/07/2005 1:05:24 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: VU4G10
Let's see : Mexico violent drug gangs inspire most of the local colorful sub-culture there ? Women are raped and slaughtered and dumped in the border cities by the hundreds?
The Mexican Gov puts out manuals about how to illegally slip into America and get away with it? The vast majority of the Mexican population thinks nothing of flaunting the gringos laws in El Norte? Wet-back running 'coyotes' are now taking to shooting at our Border Patrol officers? Al Qaeda terrorists are finding sympathy and enablement at infiltrating our Southern Border posing as illegal immigrants?
hmmm , what is wrong with this picture?
Why aren't we talking about erecting a sea-to-sea wall , like the Israelis are doing , with impenetrable security ?
And don't forget the ground penetrating radar to detect tunneling!.....
23 posted on 01/07/2005 1:23:57 PM PST by injin
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To: Happy2BMe

I hope that our government prints a good guide for Americans that want to get out before the bottom falls out


24 posted on 01/07/2005 1:25:03 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: VU4G10
I have mixed feelings about this booklet. I can see how many would see it as PROMOTING illegal immigration. I mean, hello, why not make a booklet on how Mexicans can force their own government into IMPROVING their broken economy?


However, I believe it was printed simply to keep from having more and more illegals die each year from the risks they take in coming. I see nothing wrong with letting people know of the dangers present in making such a decision and advising them on what NOT to do (which could certainly lead to death)...in fact, one page states that "coyotes" (people, often U.S. citizens who know the land, who are payed to smuggle in immigrants) should not be trusted, because they may trick you into bringing drugs into the country (and personally, I feel coyotes are much worse than illegal immigrants).


Finally, like I've always said, you can't place TOO much blame on someone for trying to find work in another country if none is available at home. You CAN, however, place much blame on the Mexican government for doing little, if anything, to improve their own economic situation.


Hah...ok, I'm done, I know I'm getting the flame, but be gentle. :)

25 posted on 01/07/2005 1:39:43 PM PST by cdbull23
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To: T.Smith
I've been hearing about this for several days and I've been upset by it. But, now that I read it, I'm not that troubled.

I'm still p*ssed at the official sanction this pamphlet seems to give to illegal invading a sovereign country.

However, the information contained may actually serve to discourage potential invaders by informing them that the streets aren't actually paved with gold up here, and they just might not be warmly received (as our president has led them to believe), and that their choice to 'jump the fence' may have fatal consequences.

26 posted on 01/07/2005 1:53:04 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: injin

BTT


27 posted on 01/07/2005 1:57:57 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: cdbull23
Ok, gentle flames. Mostly curing ignorance, but I mean that in the nicest way possible.

keep from having more and more illegals die each year from the risks they take in coming.

1.19 million illegals were caught trying to enter the country last year, and less than 150 died from all causes...mostly car wrecks when their guides tried to outrun La Migra. That is statistically insignificant and most definitely is not the reason the pamphlet was published. Please don't delude yourself into thinking that the pamphlet is in any way humanitarian in nature.

should not be trusted, because they may trick you into bringing drugs into the country

They don't trick anyone into bringing drugs over, they pay them. How the coyotes are bad is this: they'll take your 2 grand to get you 2 miles across the border and tell you to walk north for a day and a half and you'll be in Phoenix. Then abandon you. 200 miles south of Phoenix.

you can't place TOO much blame on someone for trying to find work in another country if none is available at home.

There's work available south of the border when Mexicans take the knowledge they gain working in the US back home and start their own businesses. That isn't happening often enough, but it is happening.

Thinking, knowledgable people know that this pamphlet is all about promoting illegal immigration. It's only the protestations of the Mexican Foreign Minister and our Open Border supporting press that keep anyone from seeing the truth.

There. That wasn't too bad a flame, was it?

28 posted on 01/07/2005 2:03:24 PM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ 1/1/05 to 1/21/05)
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To: HiJinx
You make some interesting points and have some bits of information I didn't know before -- good stuff. I must say you've made me want to research this a bit more, and not just because I'm Mexican-American. :)


However, you are mistaken when saying coyotes never trick people. True, they do sometimes attempt to pay people to sneak drugs through. Most often, though, they simply tell someone to take a "package" with them and give it to someone on the other side. It's simple, really: why pay someone for something you could get done for free?


Your other point about dropping people off in the middle of nowhere, though, is very true.

29 posted on 01/07/2005 2:14:32 PM PST by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: cdbull23

I see you're from CA. That puts you on the front lines of the problem...I feel for you.

I live in Sierra Vista, AZ. This is where the dike has finally burst...BP has apprehended more illegals within 50 miles of my house than they have in all other sectors combined. I hike and hunt in the hills and flats here on the border, and the things I've seen would chill you.

As for being Mexican...so is my daughter-in-law...half Mexican and half Spanish. Many of the folks on these threads are considered to be (or are called) racists. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's lawlessness that we abhor, that and the degradation of our neighborhoods that comes with the lawlessness.

Thanks for stopping in to read this, and thanks for your honesty and insight. It's appreciated.


30 posted on 01/07/2005 2:23:21 PM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ 1/1/05 to 1/21/05)
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To: bmwcyle

time for barbedwire and landmines


31 posted on 01/07/2005 2:47:19 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: VU4G10
I wish I could insert a few pages about the blood-sucking Chupacabra that aren't repelled one bit by St. Christopher medallions.
32 posted on 01/07/2005 3:08:46 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: cdbull23
I mean, hello, why not make a booklet on how Mexicans can force their own government into IMPROVING their broken economy?

A booklet to fix a "broken economy"?

That's rich.

Here's your "booklet". Find all the crooked cops and politicians, take them out and shoot them.

33 posted on 01/07/2005 3:52:22 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

well, then THAT'S your booklet -- i never said it would be all smiles, peace, and harmony, now did i?


34 posted on 01/07/2005 4:03:29 PM PST by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: cdbull23
well, then THAT'S your booklet -- i never said it would be all smiles, peace, and harmony, now did i?

Point is, everyone knows what the problem is. But not every problem has a solution. Rather than getting mixed up in Mexico's mess, I would rather build a very high and very long fence on our southern border.

35 posted on 01/07/2005 4:36:53 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: thoughtomator

"It's not quite as bad as I had anticipated. Still, it comes awfully close to being an act of war."

It is an Act of War as it is indeed a violation of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo (1848) that estalished the border. Specifically as detailed in Article V, paragraph 4:

"The boundary line established by this article shall be religiously respected by each of the two republics, and no change shall ever be made therein, except by the express and free consent of both nations, lawfully given by the General Government of each, in conformity with its own constitution."

We have the right to militarize the border under Article XVI:

"Each of the contracting parties reserves to itself the entire right to fortify whatever point within its territory it may judge proper so to fortify for its security."

And we should do so.


36 posted on 01/07/2005 4:39:44 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: HiJinx

Friends of mine moved from NorCal a few years ago to a place literally on the border and they tell me the illegals are bad enough when they cross over - but it is the MEXICAN ARMY incursions that bother them the most.


37 posted on 01/07/2005 4:42:24 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: Charlespg
"time for barbedwire and landmines"

"This guide tries to provide you with some practical advice that may be useful to you in case you have made the difficult decision to seek new work opportunities outside of your own country."

"The safe way of entering another country is by first obtaining your passport"

Then they drop the pretense...

"However, we actually see many cases of Mexicans who try to cross the northern border "
38 posted on 01/07/2005 5:03:29 PM PST by 45semi (Man has only those rights he can defend...)
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To: thoughtomator

We're all cattle - the government business is just rounding up and branding more for the mill...


39 posted on 01/07/2005 5:14:35 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: PeterFinn

I agree.

If the country of Mexico is an ally, we are in deep, you know what.
They refused to back the US in the Iraq war. The president said if you aren't with us, you're against us. What the he!! happened to that?


40 posted on 01/07/2005 7:04:11 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

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41 posted on 01/07/2005 7:04:39 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: bmwcyle

kewl!

i like wart hogs.

you see them all the time flying in and out of davis monthan in tucson.


42 posted on 01/07/2005 7:10:05 PM PST by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen! (/s))
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To: VU4G10

Did anyone else notice how the drawings in this booklet resemble the cartoon art in a Chick Tract?


43 posted on 01/07/2005 7:22:01 PM PST by GoRepGo
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To: T.Smith

You aren't troubled by a foreign government urging it's citizens to break laws in the USA?

Check out the part about not abusing your children or beating your wife --- all that is obviously quite fine in Mexico --- but Americans have these strange laws that you might be advised to not get caught doing these things.


44 posted on 01/07/2005 8:16:03 PM PST by FITZ
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To: VU4G10

BTTT


45 posted on 01/07/2005 8:20:48 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: cdbull23
You CAN, however, place much blame on the Mexican government for doing little, if anything, to improve their own economic situation.

It's actually doing the opposite --- just to get millions more to leave. That loving caring government (cough cough) just raised minimum wage in Mexico to the equivalent of $4.15 a day --- not too long ago it was the equivalent of $4.50 a day --- so it's clear they're keeping things very bad for the majority.

I also notice that government has not provided any comic books to the women and girls of Ciudad Juarez who just keep getting murder --- over 400 murdered and raped --- but there is no effort from that government for them.

46 posted on 01/07/2005 8:21:00 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
"You aren't troubled by a foreign government urging it's citizens to break laws in the USA?"

That's just it, I didn't get the impression that they were urging people to cross the border. To urge them would have been to portray the US as the land of milk and honey. All this pamphlet did was tell them how not to get lost in the desert and to avoid coyotes. It also told them that they should try coming here legally first.

47 posted on 01/07/2005 10:05:28 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: T.Smith

The whole general tone is yes it's easier if you can manage to get over legally BUT if you go illegally then ..... first of all mentioning all the Mexican government offices all throughout the USA --- the Consulates which will assist them in breaking USA laws. "If you decide to use the services of "polleros", "coyotes" or "pateros" to cross the border, consider the following precautions to take:

Don't let him out of your sight; remember that he's the only one that knows the terrain and therefore is the one that can get you out." Don't trust the smugglers.... BUT if you get one ---- don't let him out of your sight ---- after all --- he knows the area and can get you past the border very easily...." Don't beat your children and wife ... but if you do try not to get caught..... but if you do get caught contact the Consulate ---- we're there to make sure you aren't punished under American laws.....


48 posted on 01/07/2005 10:15:20 PM PST by FITZ
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To: T.Smith

The pictures are even worse --- the first pages show the walking across the border --- behind women with big shapely behinds. The Rio Grande is portrayed as a small narrow creek. Then when it tells them to get legal aid --- an almost porno-shaped woman is standing there --- the lawyer? It's a very bizarre little book --- but not when you consider the source.


49 posted on 01/07/2005 10:18:37 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ

I suppose you're right. I'd like to see an original copy. I did notice that the guys on the cover look an awful lot like super heroes. They don't look at bit like the Mexicans around here (you can't go to QuikTrip without tripping over a dozen of them).


50 posted on 01/08/2005 6:31:19 AM PST by T.Smith
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