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Militants Kidnap Three Iraq Officials
Associated Press ^ | January 8, 2005 | Dusan Stojanovic

Posted on 01/08/2005 4:45:04 AM PST by AntiGuv

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To: mudblood
Our military needs to go house to house, and kill all males they find concealing weapons in their houses. We need drones out 24x7, snipers on all the roofs killing anyone sneaking around back alleys or bushes beside the road (with boxes, guns, etc.), and paying TOP DOLLAR for information. We might be doing this, but i never hear about it. We need to be flattening the enemy like the war was still on.

Our military is on the offensive 24/7 - Any suggestion otherwise is simply ridiculous - Also, you can't even fathom the size of the operations to check every house or to have snipers on every roof (that is simply Hollywood fantasy land) -

Our soldiers and leaders are fighting a REAL war - leave the adults to it -

We have been and our still fighting the most successful unconventional war in history!! - We are systematically and deliberately destroying our enemies daily and nightly - and doing so in the only fashion that will secure the long-term victory!

We could very easily secure more short-term successes but do this by losing the long-term goals (which would mean many brave Americans would be dying in vain) -

Thank God for the leadership or GWB and Rumsfeld -

And do understand, you are not hearing about 80% of our successes!

21 posted on 01/08/2005 7:48:35 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: bozot

You misunderstood what I was saying--the info to keep secret is where the top officials are being kept for safety/security sake. That's to keep them "alive" long enough for the vote. Nothing else about the election is to be kept secret.


22 posted on 01/08/2005 7:59:02 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

Good point.

More troops are needed.


23 posted on 01/08/2005 8:00:03 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I am not sure...
What I try to make out of that, that secrecy would practically make those officials unable to work...
I know, there is a tough problem here, but making so secrets meaning to 'isolate' those officials, and they loosing the chance to mobilise the voters...

Would you ever vote for Bush if he were issuing his political stances and promises from a hole in hell knows where?

And the other thing... sooner or later they have to kome out to the light... How that helps on the situation that they being killed soon AFTER the election ?


24 posted on 01/08/2005 8:52:25 AM PST by bozot
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To: DevSix

"And do understand, you are not hearing about 80% of our successes!"

I said something about how I might not be hearing about all our successes. My initial comment was a bout of rage against the enemy, not a personal attack on our troops. I know we can't have snipers all over the rooftops, but a few would be good.


25 posted on 01/08/2005 10:42:56 AM PST by mudblood
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To: kingsurfer

"Killing people for upholding their right to bear arms does not sound very American."

Didn't realize it was their right to bear arms over there - my bad.


26 posted on 01/08/2005 10:44:39 AM PST by mudblood
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To: bozot

Your post is pure nonsense at best and a deliberate attack on the U.S. effort at worst.

Child mortality is certainly not higher. Anti Americans (Chomsky, UN et al) agreed that 5,000 children a day were dying from sanctions. Children's bodies were marched around on a weekly basis to convey this message.

In terms of the electrical grid, electrical production is much much higher than pre-war Iraq. What is new is that for the first time in Iraqi history, the residents of Bagdad no longer hold a monopoly on electricity. It is shared on an egalitarian basis with ALL of Iraq. The majority of Iraqis view the power outages in Bagdad with amusement since they never or rarely had electricity under Saddam.

Whatever the status of violence-- which is not great. The violence now primarily has Sunnis killing Sunnis. This only accentuates minority power for Shiites and Kurds. Sunnis are now strangling themselves politically within the Sunni triangle. they are at once arguing for a delay in elections while covertly ordering attacks to stop their imminent conclusion.

We are winning. This is no rosy scenario-- just America on a roll as usual.


27 posted on 01/08/2005 1:31:24 PM PST by lonestar67
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To: bozot

You have valid points. As for Bush, on 9/11, they did have him hidden for protection as well as Cheney. I guess the situation is such that the Iraqi officials need "better" protection if there is such a thing. I'm disappointed that more of the Iraqi people don't start turning the traitors and/or terrorists in. Maybe a bounty on their heads would work such as $10-20,000 each. I know that isn't helping with the top dogs, but maybe for the lower-level ones, it would work.


28 posted on 01/08/2005 2:01:25 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: shockleyjenson

You have a point, but how about some suggestions as to how to get the Iraqis to resist enmasse?


32 posted on 01/08/2005 5:23:20 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: AntiGuv

I wish that General would shut his mouth and quit telling the terrorists what would work best!!! They do enough "horrific" acts without the Generals help.


33 posted on 01/08/2005 6:44:26 PM PST by momf ( (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the American citizens and laws))
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To: bozot

You seem quite familiar with the Iraqi daily life. Are you over there?


34 posted on 01/08/2005 7:01:16 PM PST by momf ( (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the American citizens and laws))
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To: lonestar67
We are winning. This is no rosy scenario-- just America on a roll as usual.

I've been reading several posts from the troops over there and the reports they send are much different...the numbers of weapons, bombs and the "makings", are up enormously from what we hear over here. The terrorists, and they are terrorists by their methods, are having to import others who have been brainwashed from childhood, too. I also notice the leaders of these young men don't seem to be killed; the parents of the suicide bombers take the payments for their "loss" (and don't have to feed that one any more). Sorry if I sound cynical, but having been exposed to the Islamic mind, and the mullahs, I am. The people are nice; the ones with any authority are not...every one we knew had a hand out. And a big stick behind their back to enforce their interpretation of the Koran.
35 posted on 01/08/2005 7:09:15 PM PST by momf ( (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the American citizens and laws))
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To: 1LongTimeLurker
"All Iraqi's are permitted to own an AK-47,..."

Are you sure about that? I can't for one minute believe that Saddam allowed such a thing, since he was a dictator. All dictator's have historically outlawed private ownership of firearms, so that would mean that such permission to own AK-47's has only come about since we've been there. I don't believe that we would allow such ownership considering the current situation in Iraq.

Not meaning to chap you here, but can you show me a source for this claim?

36 posted on 01/08/2005 8:01:17 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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"There are numerous blogs written by people living in Iraq, a common theme is the lack of reliable electricity in the country, including in urban places such as Baghdad."

How can someone start a blog, let alone maintain one, without a reliable source of electricity?

37 posted on 01/08/2005 8:03:12 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Start placing bounties there and ... well, not only is that what we hate about Saddam, PA guys, Saudi Arabia spending 10-25K per hit (and are trying to reverse), but I don't think we could afford it. Everybody'd be turning everybody else in.

It's always darkest before the dawn.

39 posted on 01/08/2005 8:37:54 PM PST by txhurl
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To: lonestar67

I read today - and refuse to credit the source - that they'll have to go to election with the country and conditions they have - not the country and conditions they wish they had.


40 posted on 01/08/2005 8:42:54 PM PST by txhurl
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