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Venezuelan Troops Move onto British-Owned Cattle Ranch
Scotsman ^ | 8 Jan 2005

Posted on 01/08/2005 2:37:53 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Venezuelan government officials escorted by around 200 troops and police arrived at a cattle ranch run by a British-owned company today and to assess whether some lands may be turned over to poor farmers as part of an agrarian reform effort.

Poor farmers handed over a proposal through which they could make use of the lands on El Charcote Ranch, owned by a subsidiary of British-owned beef producer Vestey Group Ltd.

Representatives of El Charcote said they were negotiating the matter and handed over documents which they claimed show rightful ownership.

Cojedes state governor Johnny Yanez Rangel, addressing supporters who gathered at the ranch along with heavily armed National Guard troops and police, said “private property ... is a right, but not absolute” and that “the collective interest” must be considered.

“We didn’t come to expropriate, but to do justice,” Mr Yanez said as helicopters, which will be used to survey lands from the air, hovered overhead.

The vast ranch is one of many across Venezuela being eyed by authorities as they move forward on a sweeping plan to re-evaluate uses of agricultural lands.

Hundreds of squatters have moved onto El Charcote and planted crops in hopes the land will one day be declared their own. Most of the estimated 600 squatters settled there in the four years since President Hugo Chavez signed a law clearing the way for agrarian reform.

The owner, Agropecuaria Flora, insists it can prove ownership back to 1830 and that the 32,000-acre ranch is not “idle” as officials have said but has simply been invaded by squatters.

One manager, Miguel Espana, has said the ranch 125 miles south west of Caracas boasted 11,000 cattle four years ago. Now there are fewer than 5,000, and the work force has been cut from about 50 to 30 as squatters’ farms have expanded.

Government officials say property titles were obtained illegally and much of the property really belongs to the state.

“Today is a historic day ... We didn’t come to run over (the rights) of anybody. We come to do away with the anarchy, to give spaces to those who need them,” said Mr Yanez, a Chavez ally.

Officials said the evaluation will take 90 days and will determine whether the ranch lands are properly being put to use and whether the owner has rightful claims to the land.

Carl Phawder, a duty officer at the British Embassy, said diplomats were maintaining “close contact with the company”.

He said: “We believe that the issue should be solved within domestic and international laws.”

A 1998 census found that 60% of Venezuelan farmland was owned by less than 1% of the population. It also said 90% of farmland given to the poor under a 1960 agrarian reform had since returned to large landholders.

The Land Law of 2001 allows the state to expropriate and grant to the poor “idle” farmlands that are not put to adequate use, or properties that owners are unable to show they obtained legally.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: communists; expropriate; hugochavez; landgrab; landreform; latinamerica; marxism; privateproperty; property; ranch; seizure; squatters; steal; titledeed; venezuela; vestey

1 posted on 01/08/2005 2:37:53 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It also said 90% of farmland given to the poor under a 1960 agrarian reform had since returned to large landholders.

You can teach a man to fish, but he'd rather be given a free fish.

2 posted on 01/08/2005 2:44:24 PM PST by evolved_rage (When you pinch a Chircac, don't forget to flush!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Venezuelan government officials escorted by around 200 troops and police arrived at a cattle ranch run by a British-owned company today and to assess whether some lands may be turned over to poor farmers as part of an agrarian reform effort.

From each according to his ability to each according to his need....by force if necessary..

Marxists make their money the old fashioned way............they liberate it steal it.......

3 posted on 01/08/2005 2:48:33 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Mizz Klinton said...“private property ... is a right, but not absolute” and that “the collective interest” must be considered.

FMCDH(BITS)

4 posted on 01/08/2005 2:49:30 PM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: joesnuffy

I fear the Venzs have had their last free election.


5 posted on 01/08/2005 2:52:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: No cliches!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Gawd the Orwellian language. Unbelievable. And the helicopters chup chup chupping overhead. The real tinpot thing.


6 posted on 01/08/2005 2:53:34 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: evolved_rage; Tailgunner Joe
It also said 90% of farmland given to the poor under a 1960 agrarian reform had since returned to large landholders.

Maybe that says something about the inefficiency of small land holdings.

7 posted on 01/08/2005 2:58:40 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If Maggie was still around the Parliament there would be several BRM's giving the thieves a good pounding...
8 posted on 01/08/2005 2:59:41 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“We didn’t come to expropriate, but to do justice,” Mr Yanez said

Boy, we haven't heard that before in a few places.

9 posted on 01/08/2005 3:01:32 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: joesnuffy

Remember, under practicle Marx, all are created equal, some just have a lot more means then others.


10 posted on 01/08/2005 3:02:17 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Venezuela will survive for a few years on its oil income and then slowly fizzle away like Rhodesia. In the mean time Chavez will become the new darling of the Left as Fidel slowly revolves up his own $$shole.


11 posted on 01/08/2005 3:11:20 PM PST by Shisan ("The law is the true embodiment of everything that's excellent...")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

come on CIA..pop this guy in the back of the head already


12 posted on 01/08/2005 3:15:43 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: farmfriend; Cincinatus' Wife; Clive


13 posted on 01/08/2005 3:26:39 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Good point! She didnt allow the Argentines to take the Falklands, and she sure as hell wouldnt have allowed a leftest pinko like Chavez to walk all over British interests.


14 posted on 01/08/2005 3:35:35 PM PST by CitadelArmyJag ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man with no convictions" G. K. Chesterton)
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To: jb6
>>Boy, we haven't heard that before in a few places.

Same place we've heard "Property is theft."

15 posted on 01/08/2005 3:38:21 PM PST by Graymatter (Happy New Year FR!)
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To: CitadelArmyJag

I don't think Mrs Thatcher would have gone to war with Venezuela for reneging on contracts. She wouldn't have had to. The laws of the market have never been repealed.

If you rule by reneging on contracts your state is a kleptocracy. You are rewarding corruption and greed rather than merit. Investors will take their losses and simply divest.

Venezuela's economy is doomed. It will become Zimbabwe.


16 posted on 01/08/2005 3:48:02 PM PST by agere_contra
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To: Graymatter
Or how about: "Property is the natural monopoly of the state."

Usually said by people who have never owned property. I had a friend of mine in Russia tell me that when I was speaking to him in reference to Putin putting 20% of Russian land for private sale and ownership.

I told him to go buy a lot and we'll see if in one year he still thinks the same way.

17 posted on 01/08/2005 3:50:54 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Joe:
Hillary Clinton in a recent speach:
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
Have a nice day and the very best to you and yours.

Semper Fi
Tommie

18 posted on 01/08/2005 3:53:17 PM PST by Texican (USMC 1942-1946 Once a MARINE always a MARINE)
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To: Paleo Conservative; evolved_rage; Tailgunner Joe

<< It also said 90% of farmland given to the poor under a 1960 agrarian reform had since returned to large landholders.

Maybe that says something about the inefficiency of small land holdings. >>

Agreed, it does.

And that the quicker America's new welfare rich -- the 'owners' of our heavily feral-gummint-subsidised and otherwise unviable smallholdings -- are purchased by more efficient owners and consolidated into economically-sustainable largeholdings, the better off all Americans -- and our Western world allies -- Australia's incredibly-more-efficient wheat farmers and New Zealand's similarly-skilled dairy farmers, for just a couple of examples -- will all be.


19 posted on 01/08/2005 3:54:46 PM PST by Brian Allen (Who is Bob Wallace?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Bienvenidas a "Zimbabwe-Oeste"
21 posted on 01/08/2005 4:01:50 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Falklands comes to mind....


22 posted on 01/08/2005 4:02:21 PM PST by DBeers
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To: vishnu6

64% of Venezuela's land is already owned by the government. They want the other 36%, and they are targetting the most productive of lands first. The best for first, for Marxist expropriators.


23 posted on 01/08/2005 4:26:49 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: Alex Marko

While nearly all of South America (Colombia aside) is trending extremist Left, the CIA twiddles it's thumbs. Bush is silent as usual. Where is the Monroe Doctrine? Where is Reagan's policy of actively opposing Communist subversion in Latin America? What has become of the struggle for personal, religious, and economic freedoms throughout the world? Did we all assume that communists disappeared as soon as our main attentions turned to Islamo-Fascism and Muslim extremism?

America needs to quit playing this game of putting off to tomarrow what must be done today. We need to violently oppose this Chavez bastard before he pulls our ally (Britain) into a war that we can avoid, and before he manages to successfully export his Castro-lite form of aggressive Communism to Venuzuela's neighbors (like Colombia, as the main financier of the FALN).


24 posted on 01/08/2005 5:46:10 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Tailgunner Joe; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
25 posted on 01/08/2005 7:00:46 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: Alex Marko
That's against our rules...established by Ford, a Republican.

"Under the direction of Sen. Frank Church, D-Idaho, and Rep. Otis G. Pike, D-N.Y., the Senate and House intelligence committees uncovered a number of CIA plots to assassinate foreign leaders, including Castro, Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic and Patrice Lumumba of Zaire, as well as creating the upheaval in Chile that led to President Salvador Allende's assassination. The committees' findings prompted Ford to reorganize the CIA, specifically forbidding it from participating in assassination attempts and restricting its intelligence-gathering methods.

http://www.cqpress.com/context/articles/cqr_cia_background.html

26 posted on 01/08/2005 9:27:31 PM PST by eleni121 (Four more years and four more again after that...)
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To: agere_contra

Zimbabwe...that was my first thought.


27 posted on 01/08/2005 9:28:29 PM PST by katykelly
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To: eleni121

that law has been recinded. Evident in the bombing of saddam in iraq.


28 posted on 01/09/2005 12:05:13 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!


29 posted on 01/09/2005 3:04:40 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"I fear the Venzs have had their last free election."

Their last FREE one was before they let peanut-head Jimmah Catah get involved. This should be hung around his nech everyday.

30 posted on 01/09/2005 10:11:14 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Alex Marko

"that law has been recinded. Evident in the bombing of saddam in iraq"
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Gee whiz...I hadn't heard.

In any case, the law was a bunch of bananas...only served to prolong misery in the world.

Someone assasinated Saddam? Actually our liberation efforts probably helped extend his despicable life.


31 posted on 01/09/2005 10:36:58 AM PST by eleni121 (Four more years and four more again after that...)
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To: libs_kma

I'm sure if you asked him, he'd endorse what's going on.


32 posted on 01/09/2005 11:40:51 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: No cliches!)
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