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Sen. Hillary Clinton's floor statement on the Need for Voting Reform to Protect our Democracy
U.S. Senate ^ | January 6, 2005 | Hillary Clinton

Posted on 01/08/2005 10:11:20 PM PST by Ooh-Ah

I commend Senator Boxer from California for joining with members of the House, most particularly Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, in raising the objection because it does permit us to air some of these issues, something that I believe is necessary for the smooth functioning of our democracy and the integrity of the most precious right of any citizen, namely, the right to vote.

As we look at our election system, I think it's fair to say that there are many legitimate questions about its accuracy, about its integrity, and they are not confined to the state of Ohio. They are questions that have arisen throughout our country and certainly because of the election of 2000 have been given high relief in the last four years. And then questions were raised additionally with respect to this election, which deepened the concern of many people about whether or not we can assure the continuity of our democratic process by ensuring the consent of the governed and the acceptance of the results of elections.

Several weeks ago, we stood in great admiration as a nation behind the people of Ukraine as they took to the streets to demand that they be given the right to an election where every vote was counted. In a few weeks, we're going to see an election in Iraq. And we know that there are people literally dying in Iraq for the right to cast a free vote. I am very proud of our country that we have stood with Ukrainians, Iraqis and others around the world, but increasingly, I worry that if this body, this Congress, doesn't stand up on a bipartisan basis for the right to vote here at home, our moral authority will be weakened. I take that very seriously.

This year, we will celebrate the anniversary of the voting rights act, and it will be an opportunity for us to take a look at this landmark legislation and determine how we're going to move it into the 21st century so that it really stands for what it was intended to do when it was first passed. I would be standing here saying this no matter what the outcome of the election because I still think the best rule in the politics is the golden rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I worry whether it's a Democratic or Republican administration or a local, county, state or federal election that we are on a slippery slope as a nation.

My colleagues, Senator Boxer, and I along with former Senator Bob Graham of Florida introduced legislation last year to try to assure a verifiable paper audit. We didn't get anywhere with that. We didn't get a hearing before the rules committee. I would hope that the distinguished chair of the rules committee would hold such a hearing this year. Because if we can go buy a lottery ticket or go to a bank and get an ATM deposit, then we know we can use an electronic transfer mechanism that gives us a record.

Last spring, India had an election and 550 million or so people voted from the dot-com billionaire to the poor, illiterate peasant. They all voted. Mr. President, they voted on electronic voting machines. They voted in a way that guaranteed the safety and security and accuracy of their vote. They had uniform standards. They had a nonpartisan board that oversaw that election. The result was shocking-they threw out the existing government. Nobody predicted that. Yet they did it with integrity. Surely, we should be setting the standards. I would hope that this body, and thanks to the objection of my friend from California, this debate which has started today will continue.


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1 posted on 01/08/2005 10:11:20 PM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

screw you Hillary.........you stabbed her and Jesse Jackson in the back.....the right hates you and the left should consider you a traitor.......


2 posted on 01/08/2005 10:14:25 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hah!

She worries about 'voting reform' and never mentions Chicago, NYC, or LA.

Amazing....


3 posted on 01/08/2005 10:15:25 PM PST by fastattacksailor (The US without the UN is like not having your mother-in-law with you on your honeymoon)
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To: OXENinFLA

bookmarked and FYI ping


4 posted on 01/08/2005 10:15:58 PM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: NorCalRepub

FUH


5 posted on 01/08/2005 10:19:08 PM PST by Rightone
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To: Ooh-Ah

HELLO Hilary, WASHINGTON state is in the middle of major vote fraud, we could use your help here/sarcasm


6 posted on 01/08/2005 10:20:40 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Ooh-Ah

What I suggest for poor adrift Hillary Clinton, is an ovehaul of the left's efforts to invalidate our election process.

If that wanker and her side would clean up their act, the problem would be solved.

Wasn't it Babbushka Boxer who stated every vote should count the other day? LOL, hey toots, how about the votes of the military? Investigate how those votes are being treated these days.


7 posted on 01/08/2005 10:27:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Will someone please inform this U.S. Senator that we don't live in a democracy.


8 posted on 01/08/2005 10:30:51 PM PST by Banjoguy ("The business of the Church is business"......)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Ohio,
2000,
Iraq,
Ukraine,
Voting Rights Act,
Do unto others,
slippery slope,
India

....Boy...Hillary threw every currently-newsworthy catch-phrase that she could think of into these few paragraphs

9 posted on 01/08/2005 10:33:27 PM PST by syriacus (Was Margaret Hassan murdered because she could have testified about the oil for food corruption?)
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To: Ooh-Ah

The corrupt talking about corruption!? HILLARIOUS!


10 posted on 01/08/2005 10:37:55 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: Ooh-Ah

Clearly lots of poor illiterate american peasants voted in the last election as well. With a little help from their demonrat friends!


11 posted on 01/08/2005 10:42:07 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Ooh-Ah
I would be standing here saying this no matter what the outcome of the election because I still think the best rule in the politics is the golden rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Hillary!, I doubt very much you would be standing in the Senate whining about election fraud if sKerry had won. And your golden rule seems to be: Do unto other before they have a chance to testify.

12 posted on 01/08/2005 10:44:26 PM PST by jellybean (Free Ol' Crusty!)
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To: Ooh-Ah
THIS is the opportunity we need to get EVERY congressman and Senator, Republican OR Democrat, concerned enough about vote fraud, real OR imagined -- to get them on board to push for uniform voting requirements for FEDERAL offices nationwide, including photo ID and a signature affirming citizenship and voting only once -- with penalties for PERJURY AS WELL AS VOTING LAW VIOLATIONS.

And, uh, speaking of affirming citizenship... how 'bout THIS idea?

I called MY Congressman and Senator's offices this past week.  How about YOU?

Wait a minute.  How 'bout signatures affirming citizenship, voting only once, being properly registered, still living at the address of registration and NOT BEING DEAD -- with penalties for perjury as well as voting law violations?

13 posted on 01/08/2005 10:46:44 PM PST by FreeKeys (If it's not close THEY'LL CHEAT ANYWAY !)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Since it is now in vogue to wet our pants about India's superior voting methods, here are a couple of things to remember.

a) They don't vote on one day as we must by law. They hold elections over a couple of weeks. Then they count the votes after all have voted on a separate day. Not at all like us where you generally know the results within a few hours of the polls closing, even if the official counting and certification is not for a few weeks.

b) If you are out of town on the day your state is holding the election, whether for the legislative assembly, or the parliament, too bad. Sick or invalided? Tough. Serving your country overseas? So sorry, brave jawan. No absentee ballot system at all.

c) Ask how elections are going in Bihar or J-K or anywhere in the Northeast? How about how many times the Center has dissolved a legally elected state government/legislative assembly in the last 50 years because they did not like it?

d) Check out Transparency International's website for an analysis about the levels of corruption in India. Makes Chicago politics look like Mayberry, RFD in comparison.


14 posted on 01/08/2005 10:47:47 PM PST by A Simple Soldier
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To: Ooh-Ah
...necessary for the smooth functioning of our democracy...

Wrong right there. I won't listen to socialists that try to denigrate our Republic.

15 posted on 01/08/2005 10:48:56 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hillary wants to gripe about voter regulatory isssues........yet it was her campaign finance director who has been indicted for campaign finance fraud.


16 posted on 01/08/2005 10:59:52 PM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: DoughtyOne
...hey toots, how about the votes of the military? Investigate how those votes are being treated these days.

The Bitch HATES our military. Can any American ever consider voting for this Bitch? Personally, I think that some need a Pb injection at 2300 fps to the target at a black crusty.

17 posted on 01/08/2005 11:03:31 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Ooh-Ah
A few weeks ago I heard Newt Gingrich on with Sean Hannity. Newt was praising Hilary Clinton. Saying how intelligent she was and what a hard worker she was. That he had served on a committee with her and was very impressed.

Now that Newt is out there bashing President Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bremer it appears Newt is planning on being Hilary's running mate in 2008.

18 posted on 01/08/2005 11:06:54 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: jellybean

And just think... she's standing in the Senate because of some voter fraud.


19 posted on 01/08/2005 11:20:47 PM PST by kenth (Tagline not fit for human consumption.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

She's done.
Next.


20 posted on 01/08/2005 11:30:38 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Ooh-Ah

Fine... they want a verifiable paper audit trail, let's oblige them. Another issue the Democrats won't be able to run on in 2006.


21 posted on 01/08/2005 11:34:26 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kenth
she's standing in the Senate because of some voter fraud.

Yes, irony at it's best.

22 posted on 01/08/2005 11:35:05 PM PST by jellybean (Free Ol' Crusty!)
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To: FreeKeys
Wait a minute. How 'bout signatures affirming citizenship, voting only once, being properly registered, still living at the address of registration and NOT BEING DEAD -- with penalties for perjury as well as voting law violations?

Only one problem--how would you deal with military voters? Many military people don't have addresses within their district of registration. I've been thinking, maybe absentee voters should have to send in a signed copy of their ID along with their ballot. Also, everyone showing up to vote should have to show ID to verify that they are the person listed on the poll roster. And there needs to be a national clearinghouse, to cross-reference names and make sure that when a person registers in a new district, their registration is cancelled in the old district.

As for writing or calling our representatives--my representatives are Feinstein and Boxer (despite my actual location). Feinstein might pay attention to a plea for reform--but Boxer? Is it worth contacting her, knowing she'll ignore my concern (as she has done in the past)?

23 posted on 01/08/2005 11:47:46 PM PST by exDemMom (Truth, justice, and the American way!)
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To: FreeKeys

Bumping your post!


24 posted on 01/08/2005 11:54:53 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: All
ON THE NET...


NewsMax.com - Hot Topics: "SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON"

An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding "ALL HILLARY, ALL THE TIME"

INA TODAY.com - INTERNATIONAL NEWS ANALYSIS -- TODAY by Toby Westerman: "HILLARY CLINTON ATTACKS BUSH, U.S. INTELLIGENCE SERVICES IN ORVERSEAS INTERVIEW Urges a 'Globalized and Integrated World'" (June 17, 2003)

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25 posted on 01/09/2005 12:09:38 AM PST by Cindy
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To: backhoe; doug from upland; Mia T; Smartass; Seadog Bytes; sarcasm; Miss Marple; ...

ping


26 posted on 01/09/2005 12:14:30 AM PST by Cindy
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To: exDemMom
I totally agree with you. I think Republicans should support a paper trail for ballots, but if, and only if, there are other election reforms. I propose the following:
1. You must show a valid ID before you can vote (seems reasonable and like common sense, but it isn't the law of the land...yet.)
2. Minimum sentence of 30 years for voter fraud.
3. You must sign an affidavit before you vote. (This may be the law already, but if it isn't, put it in the measure.)
4. For all hand recounts, the ballots for one county must be counted by a different county's election board. (This may be meddling too far with state affairs, but this will prevent King County from counting King County ballots for example, and will hopefully lessen the ability to commit voter fraud.)

I think Republicans should accept the Democrat's call to push for election reform, so long as they put these measures in to the bill. Despite what the Democrats would have us believe, Republicans don't win because we commit voter fraud. The fact that they think this, shows how much trouble they are in. But Democrats do cheat. Any election reforms will only hurt them. I think we Republicans should accept their challenge.
27 posted on 01/09/2005 12:40:08 AM PST by dmc8576 (High School Students for Bush - 325 members ....Students for Kerry - 20 members. ENOUGH SAID!!!)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hillary can reference the exemplary voting record of New york's orthodox jewry, after an executive pardon is granted to several of their own, as her vision for a perfect democracy at work.


28 posted on 01/09/2005 12:59:59 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

She's holding back. She's leading up to the right moment to reintroduce the idea of abandoning the Electoral College. The Democrats can't get the whitehouse back unless they gerrymander our election system. So that they'll try to do.


29 posted on 01/09/2005 1:09:10 AM PST by risk
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To: Ooh-Ah

Dubya should come out smiling, agree that voting irregularities in 04 are very troubling, and then start talking about the WA Governor's race and the need for voter ID.


30 posted on 01/09/2005 1:30:50 AM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: OldFriend

Newt is a staple on Fox. He is trying to farm himself out to CNN MSNBC and anyplace else he can make a buck. The MSM is on the decline so making his image more in tune with the MSM is just stupid.


31 posted on 01/09/2005 1:36:50 AM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: silverleaf

These dummycrats complaining about in Ohio some districts have only 1 voting machine. I wonder if these districts had more when Clinton won both times?


32 posted on 01/09/2005 1:58:40 AM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: Banjoguy
Will someone please inform this U.S. Senator that we don't live in a democracy.

Yeah, yeah, everyone knows that we live in a representative republic where laws are decided by representatives, not by the citizens themselves. Still, it is critical that those citizens are able to exercise the right to vote that the Constitution guarantees them.

Two months after the election, it would likely take proof of widespread, centrally-planned voter fraud for any serious discussion of challenging the result. Even if that did occur (which seems very unlikely), it could likely never be proved. However, there is no reason why we should not decrease the possibility for fraud in the next election. For one thing, nobody should have to stand in line for over an hour to vote. Many working people simply cannot afford to stand in line that long (and likely did not). This opens the door for partisan election officials to purposely manufacture such waits.

In addition, something needs to be done to create a paper trail or otherwise validate electronic voting. Stuffing a ballot box in the old days required thousands of paper ballots. Doing so on an electronic voting machine requires one to simply change a few bits.

33 posted on 01/09/2005 2:28:54 AM PST by remember
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

L.O.L......Hillary where are you????


34 posted on 01/09/2005 2:44:29 AM PST by Route101
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hey!...Hillary...If you want to see voter fraud on a grand scale...come to Washington State!!!....


35 posted on 01/09/2005 2:46:46 AM PST by Route101
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To: Ooh-Ah
Ya know, Hillary! aside, all this snot-slingin' out of the "honorables" in D.C. re: "voting reform" is nothing more than a strategic playbook scrimmage to nationalize our voting system. If we allow the federal system to overrun our individual states' polling standards, we might as well roll over.

Provisional ballots is a prime example. Let the individual states set their standards and deal with the fallout. That ridiculous measure just made more of a mess. As planned, IMHO.

36 posted on 01/09/2005 3:03:42 AM PST by Churchjack
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To: remember
I stood in line for over an hour to vote. So did my husband.

We had the same number of voting booths we always do. Turnout in our precinct was HUGE. I don't see any way the election officials could have avoided a long wait for voters, since they aren't psychic.

This was the largest turnout I have ever seen since I began voting in 1972, and I have voted in every election since then.

37 posted on 01/09/2005 3:11:15 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Ooh-Ah
Well, Hillary as usual has the bottom line.

The RATs are going to introduce legislation to make it easier to cheat

This is part of a carefully thought out, post-Florida 2000 strategy to discredit simple arithmetical counting of real votes by legal voters as the cast-iron bottom line of who wins and who loses.

What the real leaders of Boxer's silly little tantrum seek is twofold: First, that people wake up the day after an election, with all the votes counted, and say "I wonder who really won?"

Second, the proliferation of laws for election contests, ballot challenges, election courts and election judges. They want to put elections under the direct control of the Federal government unstead of under the unreviewable control of the People in their localities.

The reason they want this is simple: It's much easier for them to prevail in the courts or in a protracted, lawyer-driven "post-election" process than it is on election day.

It was insanity to collaborate in the "Help America Vote Act" to fix fictitious problems with the Florida 2000 vote. The only problem in Florida was that the democrats lost, and lacked the post-election cheating tools to recover in time.

NOW, they are willing to try to discredit a 100 000+ vote win, while affirming their 100-vote win in WA as sacrosanct.

This is going to get worse and worse, no doubt with the help of stupid Congressional Republicans.

There are no problems with the voting.

There are no problems with the voting.

There are no problems with the voting.

38 posted on 01/09/2005 3:20:21 AM PST by Jim Noble (Colgate '72)
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To: remember

No one who works should have to stand in line for an hour to vote? I would certainly hope you are kidding.

National elections occur once every four years. If a voter is so uninterested in the process that standing in line for over an hour is just too strenuous, I would argue that we do not need that person's vote.

There should be a LITTLE effort put into the voting process and I think people who are shown to put in that effort, such as standing line for a lengthy period of time, are typically committed and informed voters. Just the kind we actually want voting.

As well, this was the highest turnout we've ever had in this country and that should be applauded.


39 posted on 01/09/2005 5:34:33 AM PST by Peach
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To: remember

"For one thing, nobody should have to stand in line for over an hour to vote"

Not really - the whole issue of waiting in line somehow being a reason to question the validity of an election is a recent liberal invention. People willingly wait in line for lots of other things, like rides at Disney land, or tickets at Fenway Park, so what's wrong with waiting to vote?

Its also not possible to control how long the waiting line at a polling place is, unless you restrict when people are allowed to come to the polls and that would be an unconstitutional restriction on the right to vote! If lots of people decide to arrive at the same time - say 8:30 on the way to work - you get a line. Just like you've probably noticed that highways around major cities get kind of crowded in the morning. And nobody seems to mind waiting in a line of cars for an hour to get to work.

If you don't want to wait in line go to the polling place when its not as crowded, like mid day.

No matter how many voting booths you have, and how many election day staff you still need to process each voter - mark off their registration, give them a ballot, etc.

At our polls on November 2nd people lined up 1/2 hour before the polls opened, and there were perhaps 100 people in line when the doors opened. How would it be possible for them not to have to wait in line???


40 posted on 01/09/2005 5:49:15 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: remember
I agree with all that.

How did my snide comment about the Senator, lead you to believe that I thought otherwise?

"Yeah, yeah, everyone knows that we live in a representative republic where laws are decided by representatives, not by the citizens themselves."

Two ideas come to mind here: 1.) Not everyone does know it, and especially the media morons and elected representatives who insist on referring to our Government as if it were a democracy. This is wishful thinking and further, they know full well the demographics of that paradigm. and, 2.) It's not trivial. The prevalence of the word democracy when used to describe our form of government, imo, is a reflection of the poor and purposeful job being done by governmment schools. It also raises the expectation of certain results based on this false premise. Re: the recent questions and suggestions about the electoral college.

41 posted on 01/09/2005 7:18:49 AM PST by Banjoguy ("The business of the Church is business"......)
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To: Once-Ler

Once I heard him discussing how brilliant her heinous was I knew he was nothing more than a political whore.


42 posted on 01/09/2005 8:27:14 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Once-Ler
***the need for voter ID.***

Let's add that a picture ID (issued by state license bureau) be included and this unphotogenic voter will go for it.

43 posted on 01/09/2005 9:22:19 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks!


44 posted on 01/09/2005 10:07:38 AM PST by FreeKeys (If it's not close THEY'LL CHEAT ANYWAY !)
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To: exDemMom
I've been thinking, maybe absentee voters should have to send in a signed copy of their ID along with their ballot. Also, everyone showing up to vote should have to show ID to verify that they are the person listed on the poll roster. And there needs to be a national clearinghouse, to cross-reference names and make sure that when a person registers in a new district, their registration is cancelled in the old district.

Yes! All excellent suggestions!

45 posted on 01/09/2005 10:09:55 AM PST by FreeKeys (If it's not close THEY'LL CHEAT ANYWAY !)
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To: ONETWOONE
These dummycrats complaining about in Ohio some districts have only 1 voting machine. I wonder if these districts had more when Clinton won both times?

Gee, I dunno. Can YOU find many of the 88 Ohio COUNTIES which suffered a major drop in turnout as a result? (You can check them all out very quickly HERE.)

46 posted on 01/09/2005 10:23:30 AM PST by FreeKeys (If it's not close THEY'LL CHEAT ANYWAY !)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hillary ought to know by now that we have a "Republic".
Our Founders didn't believe in rule by the masses (as per the french revolution).


47 posted on 01/09/2005 10:55:10 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Is that including stealing campaign funds as her campaign director has done, to her own profit. Hillary of Whitewater Fame?

The tempest is in the teapot.
OPs4 God BLess America!


48 posted on 01/09/2005 11:00:34 AM PST by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: fastattacksailor

OR WASHINGTON STATE - WHERE HER PARTY IS BUSY TRYING TO STEAL THAT ELECTION ..????


49 posted on 01/09/2005 11:30:30 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: kenth; jellybean; silverleaf; Cindy
THE CLINTON VOTE-FRAUD LEGACY

 

The clintons' refinement of the DNC "drag and drop," a vote fraud technique by which unwitting, unwilling and/or illegal blacks are coerced into voting multiple times, is not merely illegal and exploitive. It is racist.

Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.

In the senate race against Rick Lazio, it is widely understood that the "drag and drop," (followed by the OLD ANGLE / NEW SQUARE / OVAL OFFICE SCHEME ) was clinton's vote fraud technique of choice used to overcome her low poll numbers, high personal negatives and consistent public failures.

Mia T
HILLARY CLINTON, DESIGNATED DEMOCRAT ATTACK DOG, MAKES HER DEBUT

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

Mia T
Sen. KnowNothing Victim ClintonEffectively Pleads 5TH in Press Conference
by Invoking Spousal Privilege

Clinton's psychological problem was evident when he talked about September 11 in terms of the "politics of personal destruction." According to Schippers, "Clinton believes that the whole world revolves around the feelings of William Jefferson Clinton."

We talked about politics in general and the Democratic Party in particular. He was sad to admit that the party he supported during most of his lifetime cares about one thing only --- retaining power. Their issues involve scaring people. That's all they can do. Scare people. Schippers talked about a 1998 recording of Hillary Clinton in which she tried to get out the vote by telling her minions that she had inside information about the Republicans plan to "close down all of welfare..."

There is a difference in the parties that is paramount. The Democrats have no sense of shame. Schippers commented on the role of the media in the shameless activities of the Democrats. "The media is the bad guy," he said.

Regarding the illegal activities in pushing alien criminals to become citizens in 1996, Schippers really wanted to go after that case. They were ready to take the next step and was told that he had the support of the FBI. He believed that U.S. Attorneys were going to file criminal charges against those involved. But it was all suddenly shut down.

David Schippers
FREEPER EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW:
| 4-02-02 | Doug from Upland

Although Act I had no rating, the new clinton soccer-mom directive will require a photo ID for any viewer without independent proof of illegal alien DNC <-> DNA sequencing.

In Act II, rabid anti-clinton voters, roughly 33% of the U.S. populace according to as-yet-unpodded pollsters, become increasingly aware that they are disappearing in droves and being replaced by alien pod replicas which have their physical attributes but lack all anti-clinton affect.

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

Mia T, THE ALIENS
June, 1999

Voter fraud, again!


© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Stop the presses! I mean it. Stop the election!

Something is going on in Washington and California that will have a great impact on tomorrow's election -- and it stinks to high heaven.

Let me start by telling you how I found out about it.

A very good friend of mine, who shall remain nameless, has a long-time live-in housekeeper from Guatemala. The housekeeper has a daughter who just turned 18. The immigration status of both mother and daughter has been pending for years. Papers have been filed with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Hearings have been held. But they are not citizens.

This is very important: The daughter has not registered to vote.

But, a few days ago, the 18-year-old got a very attractively packaged "Dear friend" letter from Bill Clinton, paid for by the California Democratic Party.

Here's what it said (on one side in Spanish and on the other side in English): "While every election is important, the November 7th election will determine our future for the next decade, and beyond. The stakes are high for America's Latino families. And California is the critical battleground.

"That's why I'm writing. We need your help to elect a Democratic Congress.

"Despite our strong economy, many hard-working people still struggle to make ends meet. Quality, affordable health care, a world-class education, aging with dignity, and well-paid jobs are part of the American dream -- rather than an American reality -- for too many people.

"Electing a Democratic Congress is essential for our 'Families First' legislative agenda.

"Congratulations on your decision to register. Registering to vote is a basic responsibility of citizenship that far too many people ignore.

"Now that you are registered ...

 

  • "Can I count on you to vote Democratic on November 7th?

     

  • "Will you make an extra effort to elect Democrats to Congress -- and to your State Legislature -- by talking to your family, friends and neighbors?

"Remember: Your Vote is Your Voice.

"Su Voz, Es Su Voto. Make your voice heard on Election Day.

"Sincerely, President Bill Clinton"

Below that letter is a P.S. that explains: "Here is your personal Voter Identification Card. Sign your name, then detach your card. Bring your card with you to your polling place on Election Day. It will help your voting go more smoothly."

Apparently all the recipient needs to do with this Voter Identification Card is sign it to be eligible to vote. Keep in mind, this was sent to a previously unregistered voter.

As my friend points out, only the U.S. government knows her age and pending residency status, and, obviously her Latino background. How did this information wind up in the partisan political hands of the California Democratic Party? And what kind of impact will a mailing like this -- obviously utilizing a government database for political purposes -- have on the California legislative races? How widespread is this fraud?

This is making my head spin. The recipient of this letter happens to live in congressional and state legislative districts that are very hotly contested in Southern California. But this appears to be a statewide mailing from the Democratic Party headquarters in Sacramento.

It's mind-boggling. The fraud is so blatant. Yet, not a peep out of the Republicans. They apparently won't even know what hit them. The polls in recent days show them making big gains in this once-invulnerable Al Gore stronghold state. A mass mailing like this effectively registering tens of thousands of potential Democratic voters days before the election is a secret weapon held back deliberately to avoid detection, scrutiny and publicity. After the election, the party will be happy to pay a fine for any illegalities involved. Clinton will be out of office and untouchable as always. There will be a new regime in at the INS. And it will all be swept under the rug.

And who knows if this technique is not being deployed by other state Democratic Party units? I don't doubt it for a minute.

This is voter fraud, pure and simple. And those responsible include the president of the United States, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, possibly the Census Bureau and certainly the California Democratic Party.

I'm outraged. Are you?



Q ERTY4REALITY CHECKbump


SENATORS FOR VOTE FRAUD

By ARNOLD ALHERT

 

October 19, 2002 -- IT'S more than a little ironic. On the same day it was announced that Saddam Hussein has been "unanimously" re-elected, the only two senators preventing a unanimous vote in the Senate on the election-reform bill were New York's own Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton.

Why? "This would make it more difficult to vote in New York. It's designed to suppress minority voting participation," said Sen. Clinton.

The "this" Sen. Clinton is referring to is the new anti-fraud provisions in the bill. They require that every person wanting to vote show a driver's license, Social Security number or other approved ID in order to cast a ballot.

Clinton and Schumer preferred a system where a potential voter merely had to sign his or her name.

So who is it exactly that this bill is "suppressing"? U.S. citizens have all the requisite ID - no matter what their ethnicity. Could it be that Clinton and Schumer are "sensitive" to some of the leftist fringe groups in this country who are clamoring for the right of illegal aliens to vote?

It is no secret that New York is home to thousands of undocumented "residents" - who would vote overwhelmingly Democratic if they could just get past these darn ID requirements.

New York's dynamic duo have a lot more 'splainin' to do on this one.

E-mail: ahlert@mindspring.com

Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.
 

Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering,

by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)

 

 


 
MISSUS CLINTON ENTERS POST-ELECTION MORALITY-PLAY FRAY
(THE LEFT CONTINUES TO DEMONSTRATE ITS UNFITNESS IN REAL TIME)

HAROLD ICKES: on winning the presidency by terrorizing white women
 
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"If you look at white women, and I think that was the key to this election, Kerry won 45% based on the exit polls--but they're generally in agreement--Kerry won 45%, Bush won 55% of white women. By contrast, Bush won only 45% of white women in 2000, so he upped is percentages by 10 points. In 1996, bill clinton won 48% of white women compared to Bob Dole's 43%. That is a huge, huge difference. I don't think you can lay all that at the doorstep of moral values. I think that this president unabashedly and abjectly took the issue of terror and used it to terrorize... white women."

HEAR HAROLD ICKES
Washington Journal
Nov. 8, 2004
C-SPAN



"Crucial to this protective wall was the secret police, a group of private detectives hired to protect hillary and 'Saturday night bill.' Their tactics included digging up dirt on women who might be linked to bill in order to cow them into silence. There is even some evidence of possible physical intimidation."

HEAR DICK MORRIS




 

There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that... [f]urthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

GEORGE WILL
SLEAZE, THE SEQUEL




 

Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays said on a talk radio show Wednesday that, based on secret evidence he reviewed during the impeachment controversy, he believes President Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, not once, but twice.

Talk-show host Tom Scott of Clear Channel Broadcasting, New Haven (WELI 960) asked Shays about the mysterious impeachment "evidence room," prompting the GOP moderate to say that Broaddrick "disclosed that she had been raped, not once, but twice" to Judiciary Committee investigators.

Shays, who is often hailed by the New York Times for his independent judgment and good sense, found the evidence compelling:

"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

HEAR CHRISTOPHER SHAYS
'Shays Shocker Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice'
National Review Online
By NR staff
8/02/2000





The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know.

She said "You won't believe what this [expletive] did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Sean Hannity,
WABC, 10/16/00




"It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

Hillary Clinton
addressing the UN, 3.4.99




 

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Friday's conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness.

Richard Poe
The Hillary Conspiracy




[Hillary Clinton] began by insisting that the entire Middle East region work to socially and politically enfranchise women. "Human rights are women's rights," she said.

Though some Middle Eastern nations have taken small steps in the right direction, Clinton said women and girls are consistently marginalized in all aspects of society....

Clinton described herself as "one of the early voices speaking out against the treatment of women by the Taliban in the 1990s...."

Clinton recommends U.S. foreign policy shift
The Tufts Daily
Patrick Gordon
November 11, 2004





"Gay marriage was an overwhelming factor in the defeat of John Kerry... With one decision of one Supreme Court, all of a sudden we have a constitutional amendment designed, I think, to whip people up, to inflame them, make them stop thinking about other issues, [the result of which was] "an astonishing turnout among evangelical Christians who were voting on the basis of moral values.... I do not believe either party has a monopoly on morality or truth."

bill clinton
Hamilton College, Utica, N.Y.
Wednesday, Nov. 10, 2004
NewsMax.com


COPYRIGHT MIA T 2004  


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