Skip to comments.Sen. Hillary Clinton's floor statement on the Need for Voting Reform to Protect our Democracy
Posted on 01/08/2005 10:11:20 PM PST by Ooh-Ah
I commend Senator Boxer from California for joining with members of the House, most particularly Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, in raising the objection because it does permit us to air some of these issues, something that I believe is necessary for the smooth functioning of our democracy and the integrity of the most precious right of any citizen, namely, the right to vote.
As we look at our election system, I think it's fair to say that there are many legitimate questions about its accuracy, about its integrity, and they are not confined to the state of Ohio. They are questions that have arisen throughout our country and certainly because of the election of 2000 have been given high relief in the last four years. And then questions were raised additionally with respect to this election, which deepened the concern of many people about whether or not we can assure the continuity of our democratic process by ensuring the consent of the governed and the acceptance of the results of elections.
Several weeks ago, we stood in great admiration as a nation behind the people of Ukraine as they took to the streets to demand that they be given the right to an election where every vote was counted. In a few weeks, we're going to see an election in Iraq. And we know that there are people literally dying in Iraq for the right to cast a free vote. I am very proud of our country that we have stood with Ukrainians, Iraqis and others around the world, but increasingly, I worry that if this body, this Congress, doesn't stand up on a bipartisan basis for the right to vote here at home, our moral authority will be weakened. I take that very seriously.
This year, we will celebrate the anniversary of the voting rights act, and it will be an opportunity for us to take a look at this landmark legislation and determine how we're going to move it into the 21st century so that it really stands for what it was intended to do when it was first passed. I would be standing here saying this no matter what the outcome of the election because I still think the best rule in the politics is the golden rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I worry whether it's a Democratic or Republican administration or a local, county, state or federal election that we are on a slippery slope as a nation.
My colleagues, Senator Boxer, and I along with former Senator Bob Graham of Florida introduced legislation last year to try to assure a verifiable paper audit. We didn't get anywhere with that. We didn't get a hearing before the rules committee. I would hope that the distinguished chair of the rules committee would hold such a hearing this year. Because if we can go buy a lottery ticket or go to a bank and get an ATM deposit, then we know we can use an electronic transfer mechanism that gives us a record.
Last spring, India had an election and 550 million or so people voted from the dot-com billionaire to the poor, illiterate peasant. They all voted. Mr. President, they voted on electronic voting machines. They voted in a way that guaranteed the safety and security and accuracy of their vote. They had uniform standards. They had a nonpartisan board that oversaw that election. The result was shocking-they threw out the existing government. Nobody predicted that. Yet they did it with integrity. Surely, we should be setting the standards. I would hope that this body, and thanks to the objection of my friend from California, this debate which has started today will continue.
screw you Hillary.........you stabbed her and Jesse Jackson in the back.....the right hates you and the left should consider you a traitor.......
She worries about 'voting reform' and never mentions Chicago, NYC, or LA.
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HELLO Hilary, WASHINGTON state is in the middle of major vote fraud, we could use your help here/sarcasm
What I suggest for poor adrift Hillary Clinton, is an ovehaul of the left's efforts to invalidate our election process.
If that wanker and her side would clean up their act, the problem would be solved.
Wasn't it Babbushka Boxer who stated every vote should count the other day? LOL, hey toots, how about the votes of the military? Investigate how those votes are being treated these days.
Will someone please inform this U.S. Senator that we don't live in a democracy.
....Boy...Hillary threw every currently-newsworthy catch-phrase that she could think of into these few paragraphs
The corrupt talking about corruption!? HILLARIOUS!
Clearly lots of poor illiterate american peasants voted in the last election as well. With a little help from their demonrat friends!
Hillary!, I doubt very much you would be standing in the Senate whining about election fraud if sKerry had won. And your golden rule seems to be: Do unto other before they have a chance to testify.
And, uh, speaking of affirming citizenship... how 'bout THIS idea?
I called MY Congressman and Senator's offices this past week. How about YOU?
Wait a minute. How 'bout signatures affirming citizenship, voting only once, being properly registered, still living at the address of registration and NOT BEING DEAD -- with penalties for perjury as well as voting law violations?
Since it is now in vogue to wet our pants about India's superior voting methods, here are a couple of things to remember.
a) They don't vote on one day as we must by law. They hold elections over a couple of weeks. Then they count the votes after all have voted on a separate day. Not at all like us where you generally know the results within a few hours of the polls closing, even if the official counting and certification is not for a few weeks.
b) If you are out of town on the day your state is holding the election, whether for the legislative assembly, or the parliament, too bad. Sick or invalided? Tough. Serving your country overseas? So sorry, brave jawan. No absentee ballot system at all.
c) Ask how elections are going in Bihar or J-K or anywhere in the Northeast? How about how many times the Center has dissolved a legally elected state government/legislative assembly in the last 50 years because they did not like it?
d) Check out Transparency International's website for an analysis about the levels of corruption in India. Makes Chicago politics look like Mayberry, RFD in comparison.
Wrong right there. I won't listen to socialists that try to denigrate our Republic.
Hillary wants to gripe about voter regulatory isssues........yet it was her campaign finance director who has been indicted for campaign finance fraud.
The Bitch HATES our military. Can any American ever consider voting for this Bitch? Personally, I think that some need a Pb injection at 2300 fps to the target at a black crusty.
Now that Newt is out there bashing President Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bremer it appears Newt is planning on being Hilary's running mate in 2008.
And just think... she's standing in the Senate because of some voter fraud.
Fine... they want a verifiable paper audit trail, let's oblige them. Another issue the Democrats won't be able to run on in 2006.
Yes, irony at it's best.
Only one problem--how would you deal with military voters? Many military people don't have addresses within their district of registration. I've been thinking, maybe absentee voters should have to send in a signed copy of their ID along with their ballot. Also, everyone showing up to vote should have to show ID to verify that they are the person listed on the poll roster. And there needs to be a national clearinghouse, to cross-reference names and make sure that when a person registers in a new district, their registration is cancelled in the old district.
As for writing or calling our representatives--my representatives are Feinstein and Boxer (despite my actual location). Feinstein might pay attention to a plea for reform--but Boxer? Is it worth contacting her, knowing she'll ignore my concern (as she has done in the past)?
Bumping your post!
SPIEGEL.de: ""EUROPA IST EUROPA IST EUROPA" SPIEGEL: Frau Senatorin, die Vorstellung von Amerika, die Sie in Ihrem Buch entwerfen, ist das genaue Gegenteil von dem Land, für das George W. Bush steht. Heißt das, wir brauchen die Hoffnung auf ein freundlicheres, rücksichtsvolleres und kooperativeres Amerika nicht aufzugeben?" (June 16, 2003) (Note: This url may expire.)
Hillary can reference the exemplary voting record of New york's orthodox jewry, after an executive pardon is granted to several of their own, as her vision for a perfect democracy at work.
She's holding back. She's leading up to the right moment to reintroduce the idea of abandoning the Electoral College. The Democrats can't get the whitehouse back unless they gerrymander our election system. So that they'll try to do.
Dubya should come out smiling, agree that voting irregularities in 04 are very troubling, and then start talking about the WA Governor's race and the need for voter ID.
Newt is a staple on Fox. He is trying to farm himself out to CNN MSNBC and anyplace else he can make a buck. The MSM is on the decline so making his image more in tune with the MSM is just stupid.
These dummycrats complaining about in Ohio some districts have only 1 voting machine. I wonder if these districts had more when Clinton won both times?
Yeah, yeah, everyone knows that we live in a representative republic where laws are decided by representatives, not by the citizens themselves. Still, it is critical that those citizens are able to exercise the right to vote that the Constitution guarantees them.
Two months after the election, it would likely take proof of widespread, centrally-planned voter fraud for any serious discussion of challenging the result. Even if that did occur (which seems very unlikely), it could likely never be proved. However, there is no reason why we should not decrease the possibility for fraud in the next election. For one thing, nobody should have to stand in line for over an hour to vote. Many working people simply cannot afford to stand in line that long (and likely did not). This opens the door for partisan election officials to purposely manufacture such waits.
In addition, something needs to be done to create a paper trail or otherwise validate electronic voting. Stuffing a ballot box in the old days required thousands of paper ballots. Doing so on an electronic voting machine requires one to simply change a few bits.
L.O.L......Hillary where are you????
Hey!...Hillary...If you want to see voter fraud on a grand scale...come to Washington State!!!....
Provisional ballots is a prime example. Let the individual states set their standards and deal with the fallout. That ridiculous measure just made more of a mess. As planned, IMHO.
We had the same number of voting booths we always do. Turnout in our precinct was HUGE. I don't see any way the election officials could have avoided a long wait for voters, since they aren't psychic.
This was the largest turnout I have ever seen since I began voting in 1972, and I have voted in every election since then.
The RATs are going to introduce legislation to make it easier to cheat
This is part of a carefully thought out, post-Florida 2000 strategy to discredit simple arithmetical counting of real votes by legal voters as the cast-iron bottom line of who wins and who loses.
What the real leaders of Boxer's silly little tantrum seek is twofold: First, that people wake up the day after an election, with all the votes counted, and say "I wonder who really won?"
Second, the proliferation of laws for election contests, ballot challenges, election courts and election judges. They want to put elections under the direct control of the Federal government unstead of under the unreviewable control of the People in their localities.
The reason they want this is simple: It's much easier for them to prevail in the courts or in a protracted, lawyer-driven "post-election" process than it is on election day.
It was insanity to collaborate in the "Help America Vote Act" to fix fictitious problems with the Florida 2000 vote. The only problem in Florida was that the democrats lost, and lacked the post-election cheating tools to recover in time.
NOW, they are willing to try to discredit a 100 000+ vote win, while affirming their 100-vote win in WA as sacrosanct.
This is going to get worse and worse, no doubt with the help of stupid Congressional Republicans.
There are no problems with the voting.
There are no problems with the voting.
There are no problems with the voting.
No one who works should have to stand in line for an hour to vote? I would certainly hope you are kidding.
National elections occur once every four years. If a voter is so uninterested in the process that standing in line for over an hour is just too strenuous, I would argue that we do not need that person's vote.
There should be a LITTLE effort put into the voting process and I think people who are shown to put in that effort, such as standing line for a lengthy period of time, are typically committed and informed voters. Just the kind we actually want voting.
As well, this was the highest turnout we've ever had in this country and that should be applauded.
"For one thing, nobody should have to stand in line for over an hour to vote"
Not really - the whole issue of waiting in line somehow being a reason to question the validity of an election is a recent liberal invention. People willingly wait in line for lots of other things, like rides at Disney land, or tickets at Fenway Park, so what's wrong with waiting to vote?
Its also not possible to control how long the waiting line at a polling place is, unless you restrict when people are allowed to come to the polls and that would be an unconstitutional restriction on the right to vote! If lots of people decide to arrive at the same time - say 8:30 on the way to work - you get a line. Just like you've probably noticed that highways around major cities get kind of crowded in the morning. And nobody seems to mind waiting in a line of cars for an hour to get to work.
If you don't want to wait in line go to the polling place when its not as crowded, like mid day.
No matter how many voting booths you have, and how many election day staff you still need to process each voter - mark off their registration, give them a ballot, etc.
At our polls on November 2nd people lined up 1/2 hour before the polls opened, and there were perhaps 100 people in line when the doors opened. How would it be possible for them not to have to wait in line???
How did my snide comment about the Senator, lead you to believe that I thought otherwise?
"Yeah, yeah, everyone knows that we live in a representative republic where laws are decided by representatives, not by the citizens themselves."
Two ideas come to mind here: 1.) Not everyone does know it, and especially the media morons and elected representatives who insist on referring to our Government as if it were a democracy. This is wishful thinking and further, they know full well the demographics of that paradigm. and, 2.) It's not trivial. The prevalence of the word democracy when used to describe our form of government, imo, is a reflection of the poor and purposeful job being done by governmment schools. It also raises the expectation of certain results based on this false premise. Re: the recent questions and suggestions about the electoral college.
Once I heard him discussing how brilliant her heinous was I knew he was nothing more than a political whore.
Let's add that a picture ID (issued by state license bureau) be included and this unphotogenic voter will go for it.
Yes! All excellent suggestions!
Gee, I dunno. Can YOU find many of the 88 Ohio COUNTIES which suffered a major drop in turnout as a result? (You can check them all out very quickly HERE.)
Hillary ought to know by now that we have a "Republic".
Our Founders didn't believe in rule by the masses (as per the french revolution).
Is that including stealing campaign funds as her campaign director has done, to her own profit. Hillary of Whitewater Fame?
The tempest is in the teapot.
OPs4 God BLess America!
OR WASHINGTON STATE - WHERE HER PARTY IS BUSY TRYING TO STEAL THAT ELECTION ..????
The clintons' refinement of the DNC "drag and drop," a vote fraud technique by which unwitting, unwilling and/or illegal blacks are coerced into voting multiple times, is not merely illegal and exploitive. It is racist.
Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.
In the senate race against Rick Lazio, it is widely understood that the "drag and drop," (followed by the OLD ANGLE / NEW SQUARE / OVAL OFFICE SCHEME ) was clinton's vote fraud technique of choice used to overcome her low poll numbers, high personal negatives and consistent public failures.
We talked about politics in general and the Democratic Party in particular. He was sad to admit that the party he supported during most of his lifetime cares about one thing only --- retaining power. Their issues involve scaring people. That's all they can do. Scare people. Schippers talked about a 1998 recording of Hillary Clinton in which she tried to get out the vote by telling her minions that she had inside information about the Republicans plan to "close down all of welfare..."
Regarding the illegal activities in pushing alien criminals to become citizens in 1996, Schippers really wanted to go after that case. They were ready to take the next step and was told that he had the support of the FBI. He believed that U.S. Attorneys were going to file criminal charges against those involved. But it was all suddenly shut down.
Although Act I had no rating, the new clinton soccer-mom directive will require a photo ID for any viewer without independent proof of illegal alien DNC <-> DNA sequencing.
In Act II, rabid anti-clinton voters, roughly 33% of the U.S. populace according to as-yet-unpodded pollsters, become increasingly aware that they are disappearing in droves and being replaced by alien pod replicas which have their physical attributes but lack all anti-clinton affect.
If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.
Voter fraud, again!
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Stop the presses! I mean it. Stop the election!
Something is going on in Washington and California that will have a great impact on tomorrow's election -- and it stinks to high heaven.
Let me start by telling you how I found out about it.
A very good friend of mine, who shall remain nameless, has a long-time live-in housekeeper from Guatemala. The housekeeper has a daughter who just turned 18. The immigration status of both mother and daughter has been pending for years. Papers have been filed with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Hearings have been held. But they are not citizens.
This is very important: The daughter has not registered to vote.
But, a few days ago, the 18-year-old got a very attractively packaged "Dear friend" letter from Bill Clinton, paid for by the California Democratic Party.
Here's what it said (on one side in Spanish and on the other side in English): "While every election is important, the November 7th election will determine our future for the next decade, and beyond. The stakes are high for America's Latino families. And California is the critical battleground.
"That's why I'm writing. We need your help to elect a Democratic Congress.
"Despite our strong economy, many hard-working people still struggle to make ends meet. Quality, affordable health care, a world-class education, aging with dignity, and well-paid jobs are part of the American dream -- rather than an American reality -- for too many people.
"Electing a Democratic Congress is essential for our 'Families First' legislative agenda.
"Congratulations on your decision to register. Registering to vote is a basic responsibility of citizenship that far too many people ignore.
"Now that you are registered ...
"Remember: Your Vote is Your Voice.
"Su Voz, Es Su Voto. Make your voice heard on Election Day.
"Sincerely, President Bill Clinton"
Below that letter is a P.S. that explains: "Here is your personal Voter Identification Card. Sign your name, then detach your card. Bring your card with you to your polling place on Election Day. It will help your voting go more smoothly."
Apparently all the recipient needs to do with this Voter Identification Card is sign it to be eligible to vote. Keep in mind, this was sent to a previously unregistered voter.
As my friend points out, only the U.S. government knows her age and pending residency status, and, obviously her Latino background. How did this information wind up in the partisan political hands of the California Democratic Party? And what kind of impact will a mailing like this -- obviously utilizing a government database for political purposes -- have on the California legislative races? How widespread is this fraud?
This is making my head spin. The recipient of this letter happens to live in congressional and state legislative districts that are very hotly contested in Southern California. But this appears to be a statewide mailing from the Democratic Party headquarters in Sacramento.
It's mind-boggling. The fraud is so blatant. Yet, not a peep out of the Republicans. They apparently won't even know what hit them. The polls in recent days show them making big gains in this once-invulnerable Al Gore stronghold state. A mass mailing like this effectively registering tens of thousands of potential Democratic voters days before the election is a secret weapon held back deliberately to avoid detection, scrutiny and publicity. After the election, the party will be happy to pay a fine for any illegalities involved. Clinton will be out of office and untouchable as always. There will be a new regime in at the INS. And it will all be swept under the rug.
And who knows if this technique is not being deployed by other state Democratic Party units? I don't doubt it for a minute.
This is voter fraud, pure and simple. And those responsible include the president of the United States, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, possibly the Census Bureau and certainly the California Democratic Party.
I'm outraged. Are you?
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SENATORS FOR VOTE FRAUD
By ARNOLD ALHERT
October 19, 2002 -- IT'S more than a little ironic. On the same day it was announced that Saddam Hussein has been "unanimously" re-elected, the only two senators preventing a unanimous vote in the Senate on the election-reform bill were New York's own Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton.
Why? "This would make it more difficult to vote in New York. It's designed to suppress minority voting participation," said Sen. Clinton.
The "this" Sen. Clinton is referring to is the new anti-fraud provisions in the bill. They require that every person wanting to vote show a driver's license, Social Security number or other approved ID in order to cast a ballot.
Clinton and Schumer preferred a system where a potential voter merely had to sign his or her name.
So who is it exactly that this bill is "suppressing"? U.S. citizens have all the requisite ID - no matter what their ethnicity. Could it be that Clinton and Schumer are "sensitive" to some of the leftist fringe groups in this country who are clamoring for the right of illegal aliens to vote?
It is no secret that New York is home to thousands of undocumented "residents" - who would vote overwhelmingly Democratic if they could just get past these darn ID requirements.
New York's dynamic duo have a lot more 'splainin' to do on this one.