Skip to comments.U.S. mulls 'death squads' in Iraq
Posted on 01/09/2005 7:54:06 AM PST by PopGonzalez
"A report says government officials are reviewing a page from their old playbook to help deal with Iraqi guerrillas: sending special forces to train "death squads" to help install order."
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Death Squads - certainly the Christian way.
I recommend the IRS.
I would hope that all of our forces are adept at causing death. But if we've got some more tricks up our sleeve lets use them.
Fighting fire with fire? Whose Karma is whose?
Probably best to train Iraqis in this technique. It is a dirty technique used to deal with dirty, terroristic tactics. Not for the faint-of-heart or those worshiping at the altar of world opinion.
I was wondering what took us so long. The "insurgents" have no rights under the Geneva convention as they do not follow the rules of war. Neither should we.
When they do it, they are insurgents. When those working with us do it, they are "death squads."
I guess that beheading people does not qualify as causing death.
On the one hand I love the idea and it's about time someone thought of this.
On the other hand,
Wouldnt work now. Eisenhower didnt have television reporters, stupid troops with digital cameras, nor Bianca Jagger primping to do her school of assassins gig (think Ft. Bennings School of the Americas) on OReillys show.
Oh, what the heck. Lets give it a try.
And the moment the new Iraqi government is sworn into office, lets introduce their secret police to some of those School of the Americas graduates.
If we can get Iraqis to care at all. I wish they would stop calling this the Salvadorean solution, it clearly is the 007 solution.
I like it; do it fast and get it under control.
They aren't death squads....good grief...
They are terrorist interdiction units...
nip it in the bud
We have had some experience in this area. - Tom
We go to Managua, Nicaragua to speak with Fr. Miguel D'Escoto, a Catholic priest who was Nicaragua's Foreign Minister under the Sandinista government in the 1980s.
"The 8 years Reagan was in office represented one of the most bloody eras in the history of the Western hemisphere, as Washington funneled money, weapons and other supplies to right wing death squads. And the death toll was staggering - more than 70,000 political killings in El Salvador, more than 100,000 in Guatemala, 30,000 killed in the contra war in Nicaragua.
In Washington, the forces carrying out the violence were called "freedom fighters."
This is how Ronald Reagan described the Contras in Nicaragua: "They are our brothers, these freedom fighters and we owe them our help. They are the moral equal of our founding fathers."
After the elections and the appointment of a legally elected Iraqi government, how the Iraqis handle their unruly citizens is their business. However, if Iraqi law enforcement agencies should ask the U.S. for such things as plastic chippers and training on how to use them, Im sure we would see fit to give them all the assistance they needed.
The terrorists we are fighting in Iraq now only understand one thing; the fist. If you can't strike them quickly, adeptly, and violently they will continue with their actions. However, if you show them that they will be ruthlessly hunted down, that will give them pause, and when the people that harbor them see that their actions will be met with the same type of violence parceled out to the terrorists, they will stop (worked like a charm in Columbia).
I feel that we needed to take these types of actions for some time. Too bad the press got wind of this.
Imagine that. Killing the enemy attackers. What will they think of next........
Or, you could quit trying to hijack this thread, and post that on the half-million other threads here devoted to that subject.....
Slab on Grade?
Has everyone forgotten Soviet experiences in Afghanistan and Russian experiences in Chechnya? (Not to mention that this strategy failed for the Nazis in occupied areas as well).
No kidding! I've believed we need to fight this war with ruthlessness. Our enemy will do no less. We will never win it trying to be noble and chivalrous.
Who cares what the "enlightened" Europeans and American Left thinks.
Um, yeah. Colombia's the model we want to follow.
You must cut this cancer out. These are not "good" Iraqis we are fighting. These are mainly former Bathists and foreign terrorists. You are not going to win any "hearts and minds" with this group.
With that said, what would your solution be?
Like shotgun squads in the convenience store, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Then by all means let the Israelies train them!
Those countries always catch all the breaks. Meantime America herself is lousy with leftists.
Sounds good to me.
Nazis? Nazis didn't hunt down anybody. They used reprisal to keep the people down. One of mine, 10 of yours.
Death Squad is a media term, and in this case bares little resemblance to the notorious death squads of Latin America. This would be an operation where soldiers kill terrorists who call themselves soldiers. It is far better than dropping 500 pound bombs in residential neighborhoods.
You cannot argue with the results we got by stopping the cartels that had a strangle hold on the country (which was the objective). Unfortunately, a corrupt government came to power and turned a blind eye to the drug activity in the jungles which in turned fueled a rebellion.
Hopefully we learned from the mistakes made with Phoenix.
Be careful with that suggestion - two examples of her helping with children spring to mind - Waco where dozens of children burned to death at her instigation and Elian Gonzales who returned to Cuba at the point of a gun pursuant to her orders...Now, if we sent her and told the "good" Iraqui's that she would be in charge of their children unless they assisted in finding the perps, you would have a solution.
Good idea, probably needs a more obfuscatory name.
A Hellfire missile, Howitzer, or 500 lb. bomb is a less discriminant "death squad". A Special Forces trained group could better than munitions separate the combatants from the innocent.
Remember the CIA's Provincial Interrogation Center Program?
Rather effective. From a U.S. Army history:
On the same day the Viet Cong who had been detained were sent to a combined interrogation center established by the Mobile Intelligence Civil Affairs Team and Vietnamese provincial officials at the province capital. Later, the interrogation reports provided information that the enemy elements encountered had been a platoon-size cadre and a newly recruited Viet Cong company. The cadre was reportedly equipped only with small arms, and the company had few weapons. The search for the Viet Cong continued through 5 July and ambushes were again established during the night.
Seems to have worked.
I want Iraq PACIFIED.
If that means we have to have death squads, or that we have to simply kill every Iraqi, I don't care.
And yet it didn't work, the underground movement in occupied areas flourished. Read the accounts of French underground activity in preparations for the Normandy invasion.
I haven't been here long, but I'm amazed that my fellow conservatives can justify the killing of innocent men, women, and children. Even more astounding is that they would see no problem with having U.S. forces conduct the killing.
We've got 150,000 of our finest in Iraq attempting to bring liberty and democracy to these people, the vast majority of whom support our efforts, and yet some folks want to see a mass extermination of the population.
Good plan, then we could call them the "Vigil Aunties".
My solution would be to continue to follow the President's policies, which despite the best efforts of the MSM, are actually succeeding.
It would certainly be peaceful without any pesky Iraqi's around cluttering things up.
Send Janet Reno...
Some comments you should simply accept as statements of feeling and take them with a grain of saltwater. From the relative safety of a keyboard, it sometimes feels good to let loose with a cyber primal scream.
But the issue is real to the extent these Phoenix-style special operations, by us and by the Iraqis, will be effective, both inside and outside Iraq. A few moments ago on Fox, retired General Barry McCaffrey was telling the interviewer such a program was, in effect, overdue. McCaffrey, as 24th Infantry Division commander during Gulf War I, showed the right stuff when he destroyed an Iraqi tank division, which made the mistake of firing on his troops after the ceasefire was in effect.
Like it or not, the Iraqi campaign is only one part of the larger war. The war covers a lot of ground.
Dude, my comment was totally not series. She's just too evil to impose on anyone (Now I serious)