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TRANSFORMING THE ECONOMY -- The Ownership Society: Score One For Bush!
Iconoclast ^ | by R. Bastiat

Posted on 01/09/2005 10:58:04 AM PST by Apolitical

George W. Bush's remarkable vision of an "Ownership Society" was perhaps the one fresh, bold, and exciting idea to emerge from the 2004 presidential campaign, and it clearly struck a responsive chord with the American electorate.

In a novel twist on the usual top-down, government-centered themes that previous chief executives have employed to define their presidencies -- the New Deal, the Fair Deal, the New Frontier, the Great Society -- Bush actually proposed a radical bottom-up, people-centered philosophy to guide the agenda for his second term. Its liberating message is clear and pointed:

Return control of their lives to individuals and families, and get the government off their backs!

(Excerpt) Read more at iconoclast.ca ...


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KEYWORDS: bush43; ownershipsociety; socialsecurity; socialsecurityreform
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Hmmmm.
1 posted on 01/09/2005 10:58:04 AM PST by Apolitical
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To: Apolitical

Kinda sounds like Utopia, doesn't it? If all of this comes to pass, we will certainly be on our way back to being a free society!


2 posted on 01/09/2005 11:05:39 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Apolitical

Now THAT was a pleasure to read.


3 posted on 01/09/2005 11:10:29 AM PST by kitkat
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To: Apolitical
Return control of their lives to individuals and families, and get the government off their backs!

Exactly what Reagan preached. The very essence of conservatism.

4 posted on 01/09/2005 11:16:57 AM PST by Reagan Man ("Don't let the bastards grind you down." General "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell)
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To: Apolitical
Return control of their lives to individuals, families and states and get the federal government off their backs!
5 posted on 01/09/2005 11:20:12 AM PST by Between the Lines ("Christianity is not a religion; it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.")
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To: Southack; SierraWasp; Liz; Apolitical

Great article, and it sheds more light on why left wingers hate GW so much.


6 posted on 01/09/2005 11:23:08 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Help to insure freedom with a monthly donation to Free Republic!)
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To: Apolitical

Hmmmm, indeed. I'll believe it when the patriot acts are repealed and homeland security goes away, AND the borders are closed.


7 posted on 01/09/2005 11:24:15 AM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: lodwick

What is wrong with the Patriot Act?

I for one *like* freeing our CIA to talk to our FBI, as well as forcing banks to finally encrypt and restrict their customer data from their old policies of full corporate access.

8 posted on 01/09/2005 11:33:42 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: All

IF one is only interested in fixating on spending exclusively, they miss the central ingredients of his legislation that generally favor increased personal responsibility. This is certainly true with his approach to the economy, S.S. and tax reform.

Should his proposals pass largely intact, G.W. will have put into play policies that will slowly choke the public favoring Big Government. It's a long term solution to cutting dependence gradually without the public registering more than an eye blink at the change.

This is why many will oppose these pieces of legislation on both aisles.


9 posted on 01/09/2005 11:33:58 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Apolitical
Private ownership diffuses the power that would otherwise be centralized with federal authorities. It serves to preserve privacy and protect individuals from arbitrary government actions, and it gives people a greater stake in the well-being of their communities -- fostering a concern for the quality of life, environmental issues, and the upkeep of their homes and neighborhoods.

A good start at the Federal level. At the same time state and local governments eat us alive.

There is a long history of government growth and like welfare many people rely on govt for too much. Governments themselves are now capable of reproducing. They have become self-fullfilling.

Ask the average person about politics and they will tell you one of two things: All politicians are crooks and there's nothing you can do about it. Or, we need government because we are not capable of taking care of our society ourselves because there are too many extremists.

Each statement represents a defeatist attitude and even George Bush's proprosal of ownership is met with ardent skepticism. Socialism has become a much bigger part of our society than we like to admit. Reliance on government is pervasive and will not be removed easily.

Are we too late? I hope not. On most days I feel we are headed in the wrong direction with no way to stem the flow.

10 posted on 01/09/2005 11:42:01 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Southack; lodwick
I for one *like* freeing our CIA to talk to our FBI,...

What part of the Patriot Act was that in? I thought that's what we needed the "Information Czar" for?

On the whole I like the idea of the Patriot Act but just like every law passed today it's so general and tries to please so many that its intent gets watered down. Further, with so large a scope the potential for abuse is very great.

11 posted on 01/09/2005 11:46:34 AM PST by raybbr
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To: basil
Kinda sounds like Utopia, doesn't it?

"Ownership society" is Dubya's euphemism for "plutocracy".

Bush's "Ownership Society" Already Doomed by his Trade Policies

12 posted on 01/09/2005 12:10:19 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Willie--once in a while, could you try on a bit of optimism for a change?


13 posted on 01/09/2005 12:15:57 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: A. Pole; Willie Green; neutrino

ping


14 posted on 01/09/2005 12:23:47 PM PST by raybbr
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To: basil
Willie--once in a while, could you try on a bit of optimism for a change?

What is there to be optimistic about?

Here's the scorecard on 4 years of Dubya's "achievements":
US drops out of world's 10 freest economies list, says WSJ
He exports our businesses and industries,
undercuts our wages and benefits with illegal immigrant labor,
and buries us unimaginably deeper in National Debt.

The PRI has ruled over an "ownership society" in Mexico for decades,
I'm simply unenchanted by Dubya's efforts to foist the same scam on the American Middle Class.

15 posted on 01/09/2005 12:26:35 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: basil
Never mind Willie, if he didn't do it, the only ones here playing the class-warfare card would be the trolls.
16 posted on 01/09/2005 12:27:01 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Willie Green
Here's one you forgot:

Here’s to a Good Year: A Look at Employment Gains in 2004.

17 posted on 01/09/2005 12:29:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: basil; 1rudeboy
Willie--once in a while, could you try on a bit of optimism for a change?

Willie took this ad to heart!!

18 posted on 01/09/2005 1:05:30 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Willie Green
Read this :

"The household measure shows a 2.5 million jobs gain during Bush’s first term and a whopping 4.2 million increase since the end of the 2001 recession. It’s a real measure, too: It gives us the unemployment rate. It also does not triple-count job gains or losses, as is the case with the payroll survey, while it does include self-employed workers and independent contractors, key parts of our new Internet-based information economy.

Then there’s the positive impact of reduced marginal tax rates. The Bush supply-side tax cuts were implemented early in 2003, in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, a burst technology bubble, and the corporate scandals. They caused an immediate jolt to the economy, as both employment and investment responded to a badly-needed dose of economic incentives. By taxing work and investment less, the economy got much more of both.

Here are a few simple facts. In the six quarters after Bush’s tax cuts, real GDP expanded at a 4.6 percent annual rate, much faster than the 2.5 percent pace of the six earlier recovery quarters. Consumer spending jumped from 2.8 percent to 3.9 percent Business investment in new plant and equipment surged to 13.4 percent from only 1 percent before the tax cuts. Personal income jumped to a 5 percent growth rate, nearly double the earlier speed of 2.6 percent. The average employment gain (combining both surveys) was 2.4 million compared with virtually no gain before the tax cuts.

Corporate profits, without which businesses cannot create jobs, now stand at a record $1.118 trillion — 56 percent above their recession trough, 25 percent above the prior recovery peak of the late ’90s, and at a near-record 9.5 percent of GDP. Broad stock market averages have jumped 60 percent from their lows. Home ownership is at an all-time high, as are existing home sales. U.S. household wealth stands at a record $51 trillion."

http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/kudlow/kudlow200412300923.asp

There, that should cheer you up some. :)
19 posted on 01/09/2005 1:22:53 PM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: KwasiOwusu

Bubble inflated by the accumulation of over $1.5 TRILLION in National Debt.


20 posted on 01/09/2005 1:26:19 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Bubble inflated by the accumulation of over $1.5 TRILLION in National Debt.

Yawn.

U.S. household wealth stands at a record $51 trillion.

21 posted on 01/09/2005 1:31:33 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Willie Green
"Bubble inflated by the accumulation of over $1.5 TRILLION in National Debt"

No bubbles.
Just pure, solid, economic performance.
The bubble you want to talk about is the Klinton Internet bubble, which proceeded to collapse at the end of the Klinton regime.
If anything the Bush economy is set for even more solid performance in President Bush's second term.
As for debts, you can't fight TWO wars against terrorist regimes and take out two terrorist regimes without debt.
That has always been the case in history
22 posted on 01/09/2005 1:32:28 PM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: KwasiOwusu
As for debts, you can't fight TWO wars against terrorist regimes and take out two terrorist regimes without debt.

Who are you trying to BS?
Dubya hasn't spent over $1.5 trillion fighting terrorism.

23 posted on 01/09/2005 2:10:59 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
"Dubya hasn't spent over $1.5 trillion fighting terrorism"

He doesn't have to.
Its part of what contributes to the deficit.
Give me the total cost (including defense spending increases, plus the special amounts voted by congress for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, plus huge extra homeland security bills and costs, plus the reduction in Federal government revenues brought n by the recession brought on by the 9/11 attacks etc etc) and you find yourself dealing with serious budget shortfalls.

Add in the vital tax cuts which are what saved us from the recession in the first place, and we are there already.
I'd much rather have the sizzling economic performance that we have now, with over 4.2 million jobs created, 4.2 GDP growth, home ownership at record levels, company profits at record level, etc etc, than have a recession any day.
24 posted on 01/09/2005 2:24:09 PM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That's funny!


25 posted on 01/09/2005 3:15:28 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Return control of our lives to individuals and families, and get the government off our backs."

We gotta get that on a tee shirt.

26 posted on 01/09/2005 3:16:54 PM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz; Grampa Dave
WARNING: Government may be hazardous to your health!!!

Offa our backs and outta our faces!!!

27 posted on 01/09/2005 4:51:20 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophist sophistication...)
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To: Apolitical

As posted in the article, "Bushonomics: FDR in Reverse?" :


I think George Bush has read and bought into Garrett Harding's "The Tragedy of the Commons". You can find some interesting interaction in a Freeper article, "Economics for Ecologists" and even Harding's article posted here. There is also, "The Commons and the Tragedy of Banking". I will try to bump these articles so that we can have a cool thread.

This is a rather sophisticated implementation of ownership society in the financial realm.

What I wonder is, how can I take advantage of this? If one were to KNOW beforehand how significant individual home ownership would have been in, say, Las Angeles, one could have bought wholesale land dirt cheap and cashed in for several generations. So where's the dirt cheap financial land we can buy and cash in on this trend?


28 posted on 01/09/2005 7:37:14 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: basil

There is nothing funny about constipation. You ever hear about Willie Green laughing? Or smiling?


29 posted on 01/09/2005 10:17:00 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Now that I think of it---NO!

I often wonder if the guy has a little black cloud over his head wherever he goes.

30 posted on 01/10/2005 5:53:16 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: basil
I often wonder if the guy has a little black cloud over his head wherever he goes.

1rudeboy found this picture of little Willie.

31 posted on 01/10/2005 6:16:54 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: basil
I often wonder if the guy has a little black cloud over his head wherever he goes.

1rudeboy found this picture of little Willie.

32 posted on 01/10/2005 6:17:29 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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Ownership society? Haha!! Ha! HaHahahahahaha! Hoo! Heeheeehee!

The only ownership in this society is the government owning you and you owing the government.

Wake Up! You people are delusional. Sheep led to the slaughter. Tares ready for the sickle.

This "ownership" society is a joke! Don't pay your taxes and see who owns who. What do you think you're number is for? Don't pay your property tax and see what you own. You're a top hat, sitting on park place avenue next to a posh hotel in a losing game of monopoly.

The only way the US will ever become an ownership society is when we retake our birthright, first in abolishing the "Federal" Reserve (aka Privately Owned Bank) and reclaiming the power of coinage and the creation of real backed currency, and second reigning in the unbridled power of an unrepresentative, unconstitutional government.

Until that happens, you'll just get more cooked up schemes to rob you of what little you truly "own". Now run off, be a good consumer, and take joy in what little freedom you are "allowed".
33 posted on 01/10/2005 6:22:37 AM PST by blabs
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To: Reagan Man

>Exactly what Reagan preached. The very essence of conservatism.<

Say one thing, do another. Keep the people off balance. Fool many, enrage the few, I say. Apparently GWB is no Ronald Reagan. Reagan was a man of his word. Dubya has that yet to prove.


34 posted on 01/10/2005 6:24:02 AM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge.!)
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To: Apolitical
We just keep forgetting that we are the government.. we keep acting like the government is an entity to itself.. which we must fight... it is OUR money... our elected officials.. if we chose to let the "government" be the leader.. it is sort of like the tail wagging the dog... we have allowed this for over a hundred years... at some point we will have to have a huge uprising... to establish a government by the people...Bush may be on the right track.. but we still have to convince the citizens.. I really get rankled when I hear about how much "the Government" is sending to help the victims of the Tsunami... it is the American people who are sending this... our money.. our interest in being responsive world citizens.. then the Government turns around and suggest that we give the people's Tsunami dollars to an entity that is hounded by major financial questions.. I would rather give it to United Way of America.. they are documented shysters...what in the world am I not getting here?
35 posted on 01/10/2005 6:31:11 AM PST by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: blabs
The only way the US will ever become an ownership society is when we retake our birthright, first in abolishing the "Federal" Reserve (aka Privately Owned Bank) and reclaiming the power of coinage and the creation of real backed currency, and second reigning in the unbridled power of an unrepresentative, unconstitutional government.

Who owns the Federal Reserve? Does it pay dividends? Who collects them?

36 posted on 01/10/2005 6:43:16 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Southack

I wouldn't be so distrustful of the Patriot Act if it was accompanied by a corresponding tightening of our sieve-like borders.
I'm afraid the lax border and container ship security will allow an attack on the US, and those in charge, rather than tightening the borders, will implement more coercive anti-freedom legislation. For our own safety, of course(sarcasm).


37 posted on 01/10/2005 6:55:40 AM PST by macrahanish #1
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The Federal Reserve System is an entity unto itself. The Fed's largest member banks are

* Chase Manhatten Bank
* Citibank
* Morgan Guaranty Trust Company
* Fleet Bank
* Bankers Trust
* Bank of New York
* Marine Midland Bank, and
* Summit Bank.

The Federal Reserve "System" is controlled by the Board of Governors (the Board) and the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC).

The law does not permit the stock of a Federal Reserve Bank to be traded publicly like the stock of a typical corporation. The original Federal Reserve Act called for each regional Bank to sell stock to raise at least $4 million to begin operations. The stock was to be sold only to banks, not to the public. Only in the event that sales to member banks did not raise the necessary $4 million would the regional Fed Banks be permitted to sell shares to the public. However, all Banks raised the requisite amount of capital.

No stock in any Federal Reserve Bank has ever been sold to the public

The Federal Reserve rebates over 95% of it's profits into the Treasury, which it has been doing since 1947

My turn to ask a question. How can we owe almost 8 Trillion dollars in interest on money's lent to the US goverment by the Federal Reserve?

This should be good...
38 posted on 01/10/2005 7:44:57 AM PST by blabs
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To: blabs
How can we owe almost 8 Trillion dollars in interest on money's lent to the US goverment by the Federal Reserve?

We owe 8 trillion dollars in interest? How do you get that number?

39 posted on 01/10/2005 8:08:06 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Yeah, let me rephrase that question.

How can we owe 8 Trillion dollars + Interest to the Federal Reserve for monies lent to the US Government?
40 posted on 01/10/2005 8:27:36 AM PST by blabs
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To: blabs
How can we owe 8 Trillion dollars + Interest to the Federal Reserve for monies lent to the US Government?

Let me rephrase my question. How do you get that number?

41 posted on 01/10/2005 8:35:54 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Its called the national debt


42 posted on 01/10/2005 8:56:27 AM PST by blabs
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To: LS

This guy must have read your post of the analysis of Bush's RNC Speech. ;o)


43 posted on 01/10/2005 9:16:36 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield

It didn't take much insight: Bush made clear what he's doing.


44 posted on 01/10/2005 9:18:12 AM PST by LS
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To: LS

Most people really didn't get it....That's why I loved your analysis...it helped to grasp what he was actually saying. In fact, as hard as I researched at that time, I couldn't find an analysis like yours any place. ;o)


45 posted on 01/10/2005 9:27:09 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield
I assume this refers back to the piece I posted on "Liberty's Century?"

One reason many people---on both right and left---I think miss this is that as a historian, I recognize that significant changes only occur over time. Seldom do you get an "Emancipation Procamation." More often, you get a John Marshall announcing an "elastic clause" that becomes the basis for all sorts of new laws.

My view is that the old paradigm (dontcha just love that word) that we are going to somehow use the mechanisms of GOVERNMENT (the presidency, the legislature, least of all the courts) to rein in the GOVERNMENT doesn't make much sense. Rather, just as the "new media" had to make an "end run" around the MSM, so too the reduction of the size of government and its influence can only occur by making an end run around government---get the private sector to grow faster, so fast that government relatively starts to shrink.

46 posted on 01/10/2005 9:59:37 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
That's the one....

My view is that the old paradigm (dontcha just love that word) that we are going to somehow use the mechanisms of GOVERNMENT (the presidency, the legislature, least of all the courts) to rein in the GOVERNMENT doesn't make much sense. Rather, just as the "new media" had to make an "end run" around the MSM, so too the reduction of the size of government and its influence can only occur by making an end run around government---get the private sector to grow faster, so fast that government relatively starts to shrink.

An end run around big government...extremely interesting. Now how much sense does that make...volumes...I Love it!!!

47 posted on 01/10/2005 10:17:15 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: macrahanish #1
"I wouldn't be so distrustful of the Patriot Act if it was accompanied by a corresponding tightening of our sieve-like borders."

We've built miles and miles of 12 foot tall steel border fences from the Pacific all the way into Arizona, stalled only in places by environmental lawsuits against their construction.

We're also scanning container ships and containers themselves electronically now.

There's still a lot to be done, but what you aren't hearing about is that we've made some baby steps in the right direction already.

48 posted on 01/10/2005 10:35:14 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: LS
As a historian, I hope you realize that governments do not normally get smaller. In fact, history proves that once government gets power it grows bigger and stronger, and not vice versa.

IMO, the only thing historical about this scam is that it falls in line with the rest of history

This shenanigan is an end runaround allright, a runaround from the government, to the corporations and individuals, back to the government in increased tax revenue, derivative structures, and other funding to grow the leviathan to gargantuan proportions

Bush is a Globalist, not a patriot. Bubbles greenspan is facing an unprecedented situation and he needs consumer and corporation spending to avoid a deflationary scenario. Most people are up to their necks in debt, and corporations balance sheets aren't looking too good either, especially the majors with defaulting and underfunded pension positions. Hiring numbers are low, especially for "quality" jobs. Manufacturing is almost not existant. Real estate ReFi's are about tapped out and valuations in many locales are at breaking points. Foreigners are losing their ass on FRN's and getting more nervous each day. Inflation is rising. Our deficits are at an all time high. Our exports are pathetic. There's so much more, but I won't spend all day on the doom and gloom

Let's just say that this infusion (aka "Ownership Society" Ooohhh!) is exactly what Bubbles "G" and the Fed need to extend their scam until the next bubble bursts.

The only things that will be shrinking are your rights and freedoms.
49 posted on 01/10/2005 10:53:31 AM PST by blabs
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To: blabs
Sorry, but you are myopic as hell. No, governments don't "shrink"---except of what you said was true, there would be nothing BUT government. And no, I don't see my rights going out the window. In fact, I have far MORE rights today than in 1993---Ohio, for ex., just passed a concealed carry law.

Believe what you want. Enjoy your bunker.

50 posted on 01/10/2005 10:54:52 AM PST by LS
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