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NY Repubs Blast Hillary for 'Pattern'
NewsMax.com ^ | 01/09/04 | UNK

Posted on 01/09/2005 12:09:23 PM PST by SandRat

"Is anyone really surprised that another Clinton confidante has been indicted?" said Stephen Minarik, referring to the indictment of David Rosen, who served as Hillary Clinton's finance director in her 2000 Senate race.

The New York State Republican Party chairman added: "Hillary Clinton's public life reads like an instruction manual for breaking the rules. New Yorkers deserve better.

The remarks by Minarik are but the opening salvo in a ramping up campaign to frustrate her reelection to the Senate and even nix a potential presidential bid by Clinton in 2008, says a report in the NY Daily News.

Pundits are looking for GOP sappers to use the Rosen indictment to refresh memories of old Clinton scandals like Travelgate and Whitewater.

But University of Virginia political science Prof. Larry Sabato opined that damage control should be easy enough for Clinton:

"She would have to have been involved in some way, or been clearly negligent. And I doubt that that's the case."


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1 posted on 01/09/2005 12:09:23 PM PST by SandRat
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Radix; HiJinx; Spiff; JackelopeBreeder; Da Jerdge; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; ...

More on the Lead Senate Thief/Crook from NEW YORK!


2 posted on 01/09/2005 12:10:02 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

a scandal a day, will keep the witch away (from 1600 Penn in 2008!)...


3 posted on 01/09/2005 12:11:06 PM PST by William of Orange (I'm John Kerry and I approve this message. No I don't. Yes I do. No I don't. Yes I do. Maybe, not.)
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To: All

Clintonista's Indictment Kept Secret for a Year!

Though Hillary Clinton's former finance chairman David Rosen was actually indicted in 2003, the Bush administration kept it secret till the indictment was unsealed late Friday, a move that spared the former first couple and the Democratic Party significant embarrassment during the height of the 2004 presidential campaign.

"The indictment was handed down more than a year ago," the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday.

Citing "sources familiar with the probe," the Times said the Bush Justice Department decided that any criminal charges would not be made public until after last fall's presidential election for fear they would be seen as a politically tainted vendetta by the Bush Administration."
While under secret federal indictment, Rosen was able to continue working for top Democrats throughout the long presidential campaign, eventually joining the campaign staff of Clinton protege, Gen. Wesley Clark, who launched his own presidential bid on the advice of the former first couple.

The decision to keep the politically awkward indictment under wraps allowed Mr. and Mrs. Clinton to assume high profile roles attacking President Bush on the Iraq war, as well as a whole range of domestic issues, without having to answer questions about their role in Rosen's case.

In Sept. 2003, Mrs. Clinton went so far as to accuse the White House of corruption, saying Bush officials had deliberately covered up unhealthy air quality at Ground Zero in the days after the 9/11 attacks.

In a measure of the extraordinary sensitivity with which Bush officials handled the Clinton-related case, the Times said the Rosen probe was "being directed by federal prosecutors with the Public Integrity Section at the Justice Department's headquarters in Washington, who specialize in this type of case."

Although the 10-page indictment does not indicate whether others, including the Clintons, were suspected of wrongdoing, Justice Department spokesman Bryan Sierra told the Times, "All we can say is that there are no additional subjects at this time."

But a key witness in the case has alleged that Hillary Clinton had guilty knowledge of concealed campaign contributions for an Aug. 12, 2000 fundraiser on behalf of her Senate campaign, which formed the basis for Rosen's indictment.

Hollywood producer Peter Paul, who funded the star-studded Los Angeles gala, has claimed that Mrs. Clinton personally negotiated "the largest payment for the event that I underwrote."

Paul and the his lawfirm Judicial Watch have maintained since 2001 that Mrs. Clinton's Senate campaign deliberately undereported nearly $2 million in in-kind contributions he made to cover expenses for the Aug. 2000 event.

Celebrity fundraiser Aaron Tonken, another key figure in the probe, has also suggested that Mrs. Clinton may face legal trouble because of his testimony about work he did for the former first couple.

In a soon-to-be released book that covers his relationship with the Clintons, Tonken says he handed out checks to "certain pols" that were "illegal." And he personally witnessed a "brown bag" stuffed with cash going "someplace it shouldn't."

In 2002 deposition in an unrelated case, Tonken testified: "I'm a star witness against President and Mrs. Clinton. . . . regarding the fundraising activities that I've done on behalf of the Clintons."


4 posted on 01/09/2005 12:11:52 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

The smartest woman in the universe won't know why all her cronies are being indicted. And if any of them point in her direction, she'll be unable to recall or remember.


5 posted on 01/09/2005 12:15:34 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: SandRat
It is time for us to start our own 527 to end her career in the senate. If we take her out of the senate she can never win nomination. It is time to do the equivalent of the swift boats, except it will be far easier.
6 posted on 01/09/2005 12:18:55 PM PST by big bad easter bunny (I live so far beyond my means it could be said we life seperately.)
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To: William of Orange
at that verse.
8 posted on 01/09/2005 12:22:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Watched a rerun of the 1960s "The Manchurian Candidate". Hitlery political personality resemblance to the treasonous character, Mrs. John Iselin played by Angela Lansbury, who sacrifices her son Raymond to further the cause of communism in the US even down to the color of her hair is frightening, and sent a shiver down my spine.


9 posted on 01/09/2005 12:22:34 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: SandRat

Too bad that so-called "tough" New York media is bought and paid for by the Criminal enterprise known as the Clintonistas.


10 posted on 01/09/2005 12:23:08 PM PST by jungleboy
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To: SandRat; neverdem; cyborg; hellinahandcart; ctdonath2; The Mayor; Behind Liberal Lines; ...

misc NY ping


11 posted on 01/09/2005 12:24:05 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: SandRat
Whaaaa? Who woke up the New York GOP??
I forgot there was one.
12 posted on 01/09/2005 12:25:38 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SandRat

Did you notice that the NYTimes didn't cover this story? I mean, there is a reprint of an AP story, but the Times usually is loathe to pull stuff from the wires when they can write their own story their own way. The LA Times... heck, even the NY Post and Newsday threw some reporters at the story, but not the NYT?????

I'm wondering... Didn't the NYTimes have a staff writer to write the story either Friday night or yesterday? Or, did they write a story which didn't make their website?

It's not like there aren't points that Hillary wants to get out. For instance, the indictments started with a person who is accused of stock fraud. And, Rosen's consultancy firm "orchestrated" (LA Times term) an out-of-state fundraiser for the Florida Dems in their effort to beat Jeb
Bush. And, the indictments were handed down a year ago, but only announced on Friday.

The NY Times, in better form, would've scooped the story a year ago, which doubles my interest in why it has received so little attention so far.


13 posted on 01/09/2005 12:25:50 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: SandRat
From the Daily News.

01/08/2005
Hillary Clinton's Former Campaign Finance Director is Indicted
Daily News

Jan. 8--WASHINGTON -- A top aide in Sen. Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate race was indicted Friday on federal charges of filing false documents that allegedly lowballed costs and hid generous assistance in putting on a star-studded Hollywood gala.

The Justice Department alleges that David Ross, Clinton's former campaign finance director, misstated the cost of the fund-raiser to free up more cash for the Democrat's race against former Long Island Republican Rep. Rick Lazio, documents show. Campaign staffers have denied the books were cooked.

Rosen was indicted on four counts of filing false Federal Election Commission reports stemming from an Aug. 12, 2000, fund-raising dinner and concert for Clinton's Senate campaign.

The event, also billed as a tribute to then-President Bill Clinton, featured Paul Anka, Michael Bolton, Toni Braxton, Cher, Melissa Etheridge, Patti LaBelle, Brian McKnight, Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder and Luther Vandross.

Other invited guests included Ted Danson, Michael Douglas, Whoopi Goldberg, Goldie Hawn, Mary Steenburgen, John Travolta and Red Buttons, according to information from the campaign at the time.

David Kendall, the Clintons' scandal lawyer during their White House years, said in a statement he expects the charges won't stick.

"The (Clinton) Senate Campaign Committee has fully cooperated with the investigation," Kendall said. "We trust that when all the facts are in (Rosen) will be cleared."

Rosen's lawyer had no immediate comment.

The feds allege the event cost more than $1.2 million to produce, mostly from in-kind contributions in the form of goods and services, but Rosen knowingly reported only $400,000 to the FEC.

In a related case, convicted felon Peter Paul, a former partner of "Spider-Man" creator Stan Lee, has told authorities he wrote checks to pay for most of the Clinton event. The feds claim he ponied up to try to win a pardon from President Clinton before he left office. Paul's case has been supported by Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group that has pursued Bill Clinton.


14 posted on 01/09/2005 12:25:51 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: SandRat

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 01/09/2005 12:26:19 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: SandRat
Writes Tonken in describing the departure of the Clintons the night of the gala: "Just before they got into the limo, I handed the president gifts from me, Stan Lee and Peter Paul: for him, a custom humidor and a handmade gold watch worth tens of thousands; for Hillary, a necklace that cost eight grand. The first lady disliked it and later sent it back.
16 posted on 01/09/2005 12:27:21 PM PST by kcvl
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To: big bad easter bunny

Course all of the 527 members will have to worry about Arkancide attacks and to stay out of Ft. Marcy Park.


17 posted on 01/09/2005 12:29:00 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: William of Orange
It doesn't matter what this woman does she still has a built in 40% of the vote, people who will vote demoRAT no matter what their candidate is guilty of.
18 posted on 01/09/2005 12:29:11 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: lilylangtree

You noticed that too?


19 posted on 01/09/2005 12:30:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Fox News Channel's Eric Shawn

Dec. 3, 2003

Aaron Tonken: "I'm a star witness in New York in the grand jury regarding the Marc Rich pardon and regarding the fund-raising activities that I've done on behalf of the Clintons," the well-connected fund-raiser explained.

20 posted on 01/09/2005 12:34:27 PM PST by kcvl
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To: SandRat
There was also something reported on Fox News about Hillary negotiating a deal with CBS during one of the ILLEGAL fund-raisers. I didn't get all the details. Of course, CBS would NEVER do anything wrong or negotiate with a left-wing POLITICIAN named Clinton.
21 posted on 01/09/2005 12:38:55 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Baynative
(Carpet fibers were later found all over his clothing)

From a pre-"suicide" visit to Dee Dee Meyers' place, perhaps?

22 posted on 01/09/2005 12:40:47 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: TWohlford

I just checked... I don't think that Salon.com has anything on this story either.

I bet if Ken Starr or Harry Hyde would've been involved...


23 posted on 01/09/2005 12:41:04 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: kcvl

See it proves the age old saying: "You can't buy class."

A person of class and dignity and just plain manners would have accepted the necklace gracefully but NEVER would have returned it. By the way, if she DID return it...did they refund HER the money?


24 posted on 01/09/2005 12:42:23 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: SandRat
"Hillary Clinton's public life reads like an instruction manual for breaking the rules. New Yorkers deserve better."

No they don`t. They insist on this. New Yorkers elected Hitlery even after she put their lives in danger by getting her husband to pardon 17 FALN members who bombed their city 130 times, hey after all it was only 130 times. Last election New Yorkers also voted for democrats in all 52 districts except two on Staten Island, then they complain for paying the highest taxes in the country and complain when yet more corruption is exposed in the city council. And then lets not forget how they held mass protests almost everyday against Guliani when he cleaned up their city, or protests against Bush for trying to protect their city that was attacked twice in less than 7 years by terrorism with the last being 911. The problem is not Hillary, the problem is New Yorkers themselves.

25 posted on 01/09/2005 12:42:30 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Baynative
I have been to Ft. Marcey Park with Patrick Knowleton. I am surprised that Fosters body was found so quickly. It was in such an out of the way spot, over a berm on the way to no where. Refresh my memory, who actually found the body?
26 posted on 01/09/2005 12:42:38 PM PST by Ditter
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To: mountaineer

More likely the hit guys rolled him up in a carpet for transport


27 posted on 01/09/2005 12:43:53 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin
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To: SandRat

FYI- Here are a few ources for learning the truth about Hillary:
hillarywatch.org
judicialwatch.org
newsmax.com
hillarysnightmare.com (under construction)
stophillarynow.net
You must understand that the more we do to keep her on the defensive, the harder it is for her to help candidates like she did recently here in Westchester for example:The Ossining & New Rochelle, New York mayoral candidates and just about any democrat who asks her.... If we keep her busy, she will be worrying more about her ass, than her fellow democrats.
E-mail me at hillarysnightmare@hotmail.com (confidentiality protected) if you wish to work together on this important task.


28 posted on 01/09/2005 12:47:43 PM PST by gimmebackmyconstitution (wake up world.. this is WW III!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Hey wait! The NY GOP offices are in the sub-basement of the very building where Hitlery has some floors occupied by myriads of weirdo leftists. The GOP office staff (three guys, lead by Ricky Lazio) also do janitorial services and general repairs but are never allowed on Hitlery's floors. Too much risk of another Whitewater burglary, ya know?


29 posted on 01/09/2005 12:51:00 PM PST by Paulus Invictus (RATs are scum and commie comics are too!)
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To: Paulus Invictus

Attention G. Gordon Liddy- where are you friend?


30 posted on 01/09/2005 1:07:11 PM PST by gimmebackmyconstitution (wake up world.. this is WW III!)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Whaaaa? Who woke up the New York GOP?? I forgot there was one"

How true.If Rudy runs it might be a contest but I think he is looking towards 2008 and doesn`t want to risk being bloodied.
After that who will the party put up against her.Look at the sacrificial lamb we just had against Schumer.We need to worry about keeping her out of the White House.She will by our Senator for probably as long as she wants. I hate the idea but as a New Yorker have to face the reality.

Just last week they showed Bill opening his office in Harlem.Here is a man that never did one thing for blacks other than paying them lip service.Yet there was Rangel and others carrying on like it was the second coming.This is how the majority in NYC regardless of race view the Clintons.Very hard to counteract the urban vote.

31 posted on 01/09/2005 2:08:26 PM PST by carlr
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To: t_skoz; SandRat
The remarks by Minarik are but the opening salvo in a ramping up campaign to frustrate her reelection to the Senate

I have wondered where the state gop has been. Minarik and the rest stayed almost silent over the past decade, is it any wonder why the party is suffering.

The state GOP needs to wake up, drink heavily caffeinated coffee and start yelling from the mountain tops. We are falling further and further behind, losing ground when we need to be the Party of reform all over this state.

My site, I am working on something big! click on the Press Release..

32 posted on 01/09/2005 2:15:36 PM PST by The Mayor (When trouble overtakes you, let God take over)
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To: SandRat
But University of Virginia political science Prof. Larry Sabato opined that damage control should be easy enough for Clinton:

He also opined that Kerry would win Ohio and Florida, two states that were never in play. Its time for big media to find anothe political science teacher who sounds good on TV..

33 posted on 01/09/2005 2:17:14 PM PST by cardinal4 (W's 3.5 million pop vote isnt a mandate, but algores .5 million is??)
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To: SandRat
Just some Hillary Humor
34 posted on 01/09/2005 5:01:13 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: John Lenin

>>>It doesn't matter what this woman does she still has a built in 40% of the vote, people who will vote demoRAT no matter what their candidate is guilty of.

With all of the voter fraud finally making it to the public eye...what makes you think Hillary, or any democrat, has 40% of votes?


35 posted on 01/09/2005 5:18:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Imaverygooddriver

>>>New Yorkers elected Hitlery

With all the investigations and stories coming out on voter fraud....WHAT makes you think she was elected?


36 posted on 01/09/2005 5:21:18 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Baynative

Very nice synopsis!

Yeah, I believe, this happens all the time!


37 posted on 01/09/2005 5:31:30 PM PST by aShepard
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To: Calpernia

Voter fraud is rampant in big city blue states, instead of controlling the borders, fraud is used .


38 posted on 01/09/2005 5:34:28 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
Yes. This is why my point was, what makes you think Hillary was 'elected' vs. selected.
39 posted on 01/09/2005 5:41:29 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cubreporter
A person of class and dignity and just plain manners would have accepted the necklace gracefully but NEVER would have returned it.

I was taught this at a very young age. The expression, "nobless oblige" is a concept that the AK trailer trash never learned.

40 posted on 01/09/2005 6:03:25 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Calpernia

True true, that`s what my brother was saying. More pardons and under the table deals were granted to get Hitlery elected than any other candidate in history, yet you`ll never hear about that. Don`t believe me? Find one person who voted for her, I can`t find anybody. And Al Gore has the gall to say he lost the election because "Bush stole it". No, Gore lost the election because more attention and deals were made on Hitlerys campaign than his. A sociopath who never held an elected office in her life was give precedent over his and he knows it and that`s why he doesn`t talk to them anymore. Hitlery told Bill she wanted payback for his Monica deal or there would be "hell to pay" and little Billy Clinton bowed to his knees pardoning just about every New york criminal linked to every liberal group in that state.


41 posted on 01/09/2005 8:31:15 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Imaverygooddriver

>>>More pardons and under the table deals were granted to get Hitlery elected than any other candidate in history, yet you`ll never hear about that.

Well, we can fix that by being more vocal about it.

We have many threads here at FR about voter fraud.

We have many threads here about the Clintons.

But we DON'T have many threads that raise the question as to how long the voter fraud has been occurring and blatantly raising the questions about the Clinton (s)elections.

The closest I've ever seen that point being made was a few articles briefingly mentioning that the Military write ins were thrown out and not counted.

If we keep the issue alive, more information may come out.


42 posted on 01/10/2005 4:14:29 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

How about the one Jewish community that voted 97% for Hitlery? You ever hear about that one? Three Jews from that community had their prison sentences reduced by Bubba, I think they were doing time for insurance fraud, and Hitlery ended up getting 97% of the votes in the community they were from. I mean that`s the kind of voting percentage someone like Saddam Hussein gets, not some inexperienced idiot lawyer from Arkansas and where are the investigations? It was all completely brushed under the rug.


43 posted on 01/10/2005 5:54:05 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

This column is 4 years old, but it could be adapted a bit at any time to cover any Hitlery-related scandal (which never get enough coverage for my satisfaction. I loathe them both.)

http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/000718.shtml

July 18, 2000

Did Hillary Rodham call Paul Fray a “[bleeping] Jew bastard” in 1974? This year’s New York Senate race may hinge on the answer.

Fray, his wife, and another witness insist Hillary said it. Hillary denies it, and she has another witness to vouch for her. Unfortunately, Hillary’s only witness is the most famous perjurer in the United States.

Bill Clinton does allow that Hillary, then his main squeeze, may have called Fray a “bastard,” but she never ever did or would or could have used an ethnic or racial or religious slur, because that would be totally absolutely 100 per cent contrary to her nature. Besides, the first perjurer added with a straight face, the three witnesses against Hillary are lowlife scum who deal in “character assassination.”

The Clintons don’t know when to cut their losses. Their frantic denials have turned a trivial allegation into a red-hot story, bigger than John Rocker. Hillary could easily have deflected it by saying:

“Look, I can’t remember everything I said a quarter of a century ago. I had a foul mouth and a hot temper, so I can’t absolutely deny this. I hope I didn’t say it, but if I did, I’m sorry. I think my subsequent record speaks for itself, and I’m content to be judged by that.”

If Hillary had said this, she would have had common sense on her side for once. Even the Anti-Defamation League might have acknowledged a statute of limitations on a casual slur spoken 26 years ago. But she insisted on uttering an absolute denial, just as Bill absolutely denied having had sex with that woman, thereby raising the stakes and dramatizing the issue of veracity.

In other words, she could have asked to be judged by her total record; instead, she has virtually demanded that she be judged on the disputed 1974 incident, when she can’t prove that her version is true.

The trouble is that the charge is plausible. Hillary is notoriously foul-mouthed and bad-tempered toward her subordinates. Even if she is as prejudice-free as she insists, it’s not hard to imagine an ethnic term slipping into one of her furious imprecations. The fact that Fray is a Baptist, not a Jew (though he has some Jewish ancestry), actually makes his charge more believable: why would a Baptist make up such a story?

The various women who have called Bill Clinton a sexual predator were plausible because they were all describing the same recognizable character. Fray’s story is plausible because his Hillary sounds so much like the coarse and autocratic Hillary so many others have described. Like so many egalitarians from Lenin and Stalin to Mao and Bella Abzug, she is a certified terror to work for.

Notice that the only word in the phrase [bleeping] Jew bastard Hillary and Bill deny is the word Jew. Too many people have heard her use the other two words in anger.

Which raises an interesting point. If someone had accused, say, Mamie Eisenhower of calling a man a “[bleeping] Jew bastard,” the “Jew bastard” part would have been the least of it. The public furor would have been all about [bleeping]. In the old days, first ladies weren’t even supposed to admit they knew such words. But nobody seems to care whether Hillary said “[bleeping]” (though the word remains unprintable in most publications) or to doubt that she said it; nor does she feel bound to deny it or apologize for it.

So one more transgression has been normalized. It’s another little reminder of how much both Clintons have contributed to the coarsening of American life. Harry Truman was thought earthy and, in some quarters, vulgar for saying “hell” and “damn”; liberals who would later defend Bill Clinton accused Richard Nixon of dishonoring the Oval Office with his “expletives deleted.” But the Clintons have inured us to speech and behavior that was once unthinkable.

The much-discussed Clinton “legacy” won’t emerge from the Camp David peace talks, or from some legislative achievement or military triumph. The Clintons’ real legacy lies in an erosion of personal standards of conduct. Their ceaseless scandals are only part of it; perhaps less important, in the long run, than their gross manners.


44 posted on 01/10/2005 6:04:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Cobra64

I think you meant to write AR instead of AK. Get the facts straight. The ex co-president is IL trailer trash. She was a radical before she came here and left as soon as she found greener pastures in NY. Good riddance.


45 posted on 01/10/2005 6:15:26 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Zack Nguyen; Baynative

BTTT. Did you write this . . . official release?


46 posted on 01/10/2005 6:15:38 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: SandRat
University of Virginia political science Prof. Larry Sabato opined ...

Would Sabato just shut up and go away ... he's the genius, a month out from the election, who predicted a Kerry victory.

47 posted on 01/10/2005 6:19:33 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Imaverygooddriver; Liz; Snapple

I heard about that. And I think there were articles posted here by Liz? Snapple? That linked that Jewish group to Torros College.


48 posted on 01/10/2005 6:25:34 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SandRat

Steve Minarick rocks. I know him personally from my old Republican activism days in Rochester.


50 posted on 01/10/2005 6:44:53 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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