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NY Repubs Blast Hillary for 'Pattern'
NewsMax.com ^ | 01/09/04 | UNK

Posted on 01/09/2005 12:09:23 PM PST by SandRat

"Is anyone really surprised that another Clinton confidante has been indicted?" said Stephen Minarik, referring to the indictment of David Rosen, who served as Hillary Clinton's finance director in her 2000 Senate race.

The New York State Republican Party chairman added: "Hillary Clinton's public life reads like an instruction manual for breaking the rules. New Yorkers deserve better.

The remarks by Minarik are but the opening salvo in a ramping up campaign to frustrate her reelection to the Senate and even nix a potential presidential bid by Clinton in 2008, says a report in the NY Daily News.

Pundits are looking for GOP sappers to use the Rosen indictment to refresh memories of old Clinton scandals like Travelgate and Whitewater.

But University of Virginia political science Prof. Larry Sabato opined that damage control should be easy enough for Clinton:

"She would have to have been involved in some way, or been clearly negligent. And I doubt that that's the case."


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To: Calpernia

True true, that`s what my brother was saying. More pardons and under the table deals were granted to get Hitlery elected than any other candidate in history, yet you`ll never hear about that. Don`t believe me? Find one person who voted for her, I can`t find anybody. And Al Gore has the gall to say he lost the election because "Bush stole it". No, Gore lost the election because more attention and deals were made on Hitlerys campaign than his. A sociopath who never held an elected office in her life was give precedent over his and he knows it and that`s why he doesn`t talk to them anymore. Hitlery told Bill she wanted payback for his Monica deal or there would be "hell to pay" and little Billy Clinton bowed to his knees pardoning just about every New york criminal linked to every liberal group in that state.


41 posted on 01/09/2005 8:31:15 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Imaverygooddriver

>>>More pardons and under the table deals were granted to get Hitlery elected than any other candidate in history, yet you`ll never hear about that.

Well, we can fix that by being more vocal about it.

We have many threads here at FR about voter fraud.

We have many threads here about the Clintons.

But we DON'T have many threads that raise the question as to how long the voter fraud has been occurring and blatantly raising the questions about the Clinton (s)elections.

The closest I've ever seen that point being made was a few articles briefingly mentioning that the Military write ins were thrown out and not counted.

If we keep the issue alive, more information may come out.


42 posted on 01/10/2005 4:14:29 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

How about the one Jewish community that voted 97% for Hitlery? You ever hear about that one? Three Jews from that community had their prison sentences reduced by Bubba, I think they were doing time for insurance fraud, and Hitlery ended up getting 97% of the votes in the community they were from. I mean that`s the kind of voting percentage someone like Saddam Hussein gets, not some inexperienced idiot lawyer from Arkansas and where are the investigations? It was all completely brushed under the rug.


43 posted on 01/10/2005 5:54:05 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

This column is 4 years old, but it could be adapted a bit at any time to cover any Hitlery-related scandal (which never get enough coverage for my satisfaction. I loathe them both.)

http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/000718.shtml

July 18, 2000

Did Hillary Rodham call Paul Fray a “[bleeping] Jew bastard” in 1974? This year’s New York Senate race may hinge on the answer.

Fray, his wife, and another witness insist Hillary said it. Hillary denies it, and she has another witness to vouch for her. Unfortunately, Hillary’s only witness is the most famous perjurer in the United States.

Bill Clinton does allow that Hillary, then his main squeeze, may have called Fray a “bastard,” but she never ever did or would or could have used an ethnic or racial or religious slur, because that would be totally absolutely 100 per cent contrary to her nature. Besides, the first perjurer added with a straight face, the three witnesses against Hillary are lowlife scum who deal in “character assassination.”

The Clintons don’t know when to cut their losses. Their frantic denials have turned a trivial allegation into a red-hot story, bigger than John Rocker. Hillary could easily have deflected it by saying:

“Look, I can’t remember everything I said a quarter of a century ago. I had a foul mouth and a hot temper, so I can’t absolutely deny this. I hope I didn’t say it, but if I did, I’m sorry. I think my subsequent record speaks for itself, and I’m content to be judged by that.”

If Hillary had said this, she would have had common sense on her side for once. Even the Anti-Defamation League might have acknowledged a statute of limitations on a casual slur spoken 26 years ago. But she insisted on uttering an absolute denial, just as Bill absolutely denied having had sex with that woman, thereby raising the stakes and dramatizing the issue of veracity.

In other words, she could have asked to be judged by her total record; instead, she has virtually demanded that she be judged on the disputed 1974 incident, when she can’t prove that her version is true.

The trouble is that the charge is plausible. Hillary is notoriously foul-mouthed and bad-tempered toward her subordinates. Even if she is as prejudice-free as she insists, it’s not hard to imagine an ethnic term slipping into one of her furious imprecations. The fact that Fray is a Baptist, not a Jew (though he has some Jewish ancestry), actually makes his charge more believable: why would a Baptist make up such a story?

The various women who have called Bill Clinton a sexual predator were plausible because they were all describing the same recognizable character. Fray’s story is plausible because his Hillary sounds so much like the coarse and autocratic Hillary so many others have described. Like so many egalitarians from Lenin and Stalin to Mao and Bella Abzug, she is a certified terror to work for.

Notice that the only word in the phrase [bleeping] Jew bastard Hillary and Bill deny is the word Jew. Too many people have heard her use the other two words in anger.

Which raises an interesting point. If someone had accused, say, Mamie Eisenhower of calling a man a “[bleeping] Jew bastard,” the “Jew bastard” part would have been the least of it. The public furor would have been all about [bleeping]. In the old days, first ladies weren’t even supposed to admit they knew such words. But nobody seems to care whether Hillary said “[bleeping]” (though the word remains unprintable in most publications) or to doubt that she said it; nor does she feel bound to deny it or apologize for it.

So one more transgression has been normalized. It’s another little reminder of how much both Clintons have contributed to the coarsening of American life. Harry Truman was thought earthy and, in some quarters, vulgar for saying “hell” and “damn”; liberals who would later defend Bill Clinton accused Richard Nixon of dishonoring the Oval Office with his “expletives deleted.” But the Clintons have inured us to speech and behavior that was once unthinkable.

The much-discussed Clinton “legacy” won’t emerge from the Camp David peace talks, or from some legislative achievement or military triumph. The Clintons’ real legacy lies in an erosion of personal standards of conduct. Their ceaseless scandals are only part of it; perhaps less important, in the long run, than their gross manners.


44 posted on 01/10/2005 6:04:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Cobra64

I think you meant to write AR instead of AK. Get the facts straight. The ex co-president is IL trailer trash. She was a radical before she came here and left as soon as she found greener pastures in NY. Good riddance.


45 posted on 01/10/2005 6:15:26 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Zack Nguyen; Baynative

BTTT. Did you write this . . . official release?


46 posted on 01/10/2005 6:15:38 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: SandRat
University of Virginia political science Prof. Larry Sabato opined ...

Would Sabato just shut up and go away ... he's the genius, a month out from the election, who predicted a Kerry victory.

47 posted on 01/10/2005 6:19:33 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Imaverygooddriver; Liz; Snapple

I heard about that. And I think there were articles posted here by Liz? Snapple? That linked that Jewish group to Torros College.


48 posted on 01/10/2005 6:25:34 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SandRat

Steve Minarick rocks. I know him personally from my old Republican activism days in Rochester.


50 posted on 01/10/2005 6:44:53 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: SandRat

Bump!


51 posted on 01/10/2005 9:18:20 AM PST by windchime (Won't it be great watching President Bush spend political capital?)
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To: seemoAR

Sorry.


52 posted on 01/10/2005 10:31:14 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cobra64

you are very welcome. I tend to get disturbed when people think that "her highness" is from AR.


53 posted on 01/11/2005 3:21:04 PM PST by seemoAR
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To: Imaverygooddriver
The problem is not Hillary, the problem is New Yorkers themselves.

Ever live in NY? Have you ever heard of Lake Placid, Niagra Falls, Rochester, Corning, West Point Military Academy, ever driven eight hours though farmlands and meadows, hundreds of state parks.? NEW YORK CITY IS THE PROBLEM.

We lived on 5 acres, just south of West Point. We were surrounded by Bear Mountain National Park, and Harriman State Park. Our "town" consisted of a gasoline station and a delicatessen. None of our neighbors ever voted for a democrat. Because they worked for a living, and did not believe in social welfare.

54 posted on 01/11/2005 5:40:06 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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