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America's Dis-Education System - (ongoing marxist indoctrination in our schools)
PATRIOT VOCALS.INFO ^ | JANUARY 9, 2005 | JEFF "MARIO" SMITH - Guerilla Reporter

Posted on 01/09/2005 2:15:15 PM PST by CHARLITE

“America is reaping the consequences of the destruction of traditional education by the Dewey-Kilpatrick experimentalist philosophy…Dewey’s ideas have led to elimination of many academic subjects on the grounds that they would not be useful in life…The student thus receives neither intellectual training nor the factual knowledge which will help him understand the world he lives in, or to make well-reasoned decisions in his private life or as a responsible citizen.”
-- Admiral Hyman Rickover [The Tablet, August 11, 1959]

John Dewey, an educational philosopher, first applied his experimental philosophies in a model school at the University of Chicago prior to 1900 and they failed miserably. Even though the children learned nothing, Dewey moved on to Teacher’s College at Columbia University in 1904 where he became the most influential man in American education.

Under his guidance a full 20% of all American school superintendents and 40% of all teacher college heads received advanced degrees at Columbia. His experimental philosophies were adopted as “progressive education” all across America changing what was taught to American children. Sickened by what you see happening in our public schools? Thank John Dewey and his dedicated followers!

Dewey was an atheist who rejected fixed moral laws and eternal truths and principles. That fact, in itself, should be enough to keep the man’s ideas away from our children. A Marxist, he believed that man is without a soul or free will, an organism completely molded by his environment. So, to Dewey, teaching children absolute morals, ethics, and government was a waste of time. Getting along with the group became the measure of a child’s “progress”.

This “progressive education” is the reason we, who can think for ourselves and aren’t afraid of truth and factual history, shake our heads at what we see and hear from the majority of our countrymen. The parroting of mainstream media dogma, relative morality, and collectivist thinking we witness in our fellow Americans disgusts those of us who can see through the fog.

Dewey’s “My Pedagogic Creed” (1897), claimed the destruction of a child’s individualism is the primary goal of “education”. Think about it. Not only is government controlled free public schooling one of the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto, but is this not what is happening today with our children through public education? Praise the Lord for those brave and dedicated souls who educate their children at home, outside of the “system”. Governments at various levels are trying to regulate home schoolers, but home schooled children, as well as private educated children, constantly out perform public educated children, so the local, state, and federal governments are not having an easy time selling the concept to the sheeple. May the “resistance” grow!

Dewey predicted the eventual destruction of traditional education when he stated: “We violate the child’s nature and render difficult the best ethical results by introducing the child too abruptly to a number of special studies of reading, writing, geography, etc. out of relation to his social life…the true center of correlation of the school subjects is not science, nor literature, nor history, nor geography, but the child’s own social activities.”

Dewey’s theories, through his disciples, have eliminated teaching strict rules of grammar. Well, ain’t that special! Old fashioned spelling drills are gone. Who cares if it is spelled right as long as you understand what the writer intends? Penmanship is not even a word understood by many young people today, most have never heard of it. The math tables have been “de-emphasized”, which can be witnessed by so many young people at retail outlets who cannot figure change without a machine to figure it for them. I hear many parents complain about it, but do nothing. They just acquiesce.

Rosalie Gordon, in “What’s Happened to Our Schools”, says: “The progressive system has reached all the way down to the lowest grades to prepare the children of America for their role as the collectivists of the future…The group – not the individual child – is the quintessence of progressivism. The child must always be made to feel part of the group. He must indulge in group thinking in group activity.”

She goes on to talk about Dewey and what he has done by stating, “You can’t make socialists out of individuals.” At the height of his career, Dewey was honorary chairman of the League for Industrial Democracy, the American counterpart of the British Fabian Society. The goal of the Fabian Society, started in England by wealthy intellectuals, was to establish a classless, godless, socialistic, one-world society, just as was envisioned by Karl Marx. Their leadership included the likes of Beatrice and Sidney Webb and George Bernard Shaw.

The “progressivists” Dewey associated with, and who were his disciples, have gone on to subvert our textbooks in such ways as to denigrate the founders, de-emphasize our struggle for Liberty and our Christian heritage, and celebrate socialistic philosophy to the point of misinforming and omitting facts about the world communism movement. What do people do? They send their children to school believing they are doing the right thing. Everyone else is doing it. Most do not know the degree to which the communists, socialists, and Fabians, otherwise known as progressive thinkers, have subverted public education.

Parents act astounded when little Johnny and little Mary come home with ideas contrary to how they were raising them. They don’t realize their children are being taught from perverted texts that have been changing drastically since the early 1900’s, but were totally taken over by UNESCO in the early 50’s. We are sending our children to little mills of world socialism and the reward we will reap is an end to the greatest Republic ever to inhabit planet earth, a true gift from God.

Class hatred, internationalism, collectivism, relative morality, and godlessness are being spoon-fed to our children right under our complacent noses and we sit by and let it happen. The National Education Association is so radical that their National Commission for the Defense of Democracy Through Education will rush trained propagandists to any locale where public education is coming under attack for what it is, a travesty. They even brag about maintaining a black list of those who oppose their policies. Past NEA Executive Secretary Willard Givens himself said: “We are convinced that we stand today at the verge of a great culture…But to achieve these things, many drastic changes must be made. A dying laissez-faire must be completely destroyed, and all of us, including the owners must be subjected to a large degree of social control.”

The facts are all right there for anyone who cares enough to open his eyes and mind and do the seeking of the truth in history. We must stop relying on those who control the dissemination of information in our society to be honest with us, that being the mainstream media, k-12 education, secondary education, the publishing companies, and the internationalists. People need to realize that truth is not found by just taking in what is thrown at us, we must seek it.

* Most of the information for this article came from “None Dare Call It Treason 25 Years Later” by John A. Stormer, Chapter VI. The book was published in 1989, but history does not change, it just repeats, if we let it!

Comments:jeffsmith@qx.net


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: academicbias; american; campusbias; communist; culturewars; education; educrats; experimentalist; groupthink; indoctrination; johnastormer; johndewey; kilpatrick; manifesto; marxism; nea; nonedarecallit; pc; philosophy; politicalcorrectness; progressisve; schoolbias; schools; socialism; system; teachers; treason
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1 posted on 01/09/2005 2:15:16 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

McCarthy warned of this.


2 posted on 01/09/2005 2:20:06 PM PST by Uncle George
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To: Uncle George

how so? im allways intrested in learning about McCarthy.


3 posted on 01/09/2005 2:26:07 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: 2Jedismom; LadyShallott

Ping for your lists.


4 posted on 01/09/2005 2:28:53 PM PST by netmilsmom (God send you a Blessed 2005!)
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To: Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; KangarooJacqui; The Scourge of Yazid; Conspiracy Guy; ...

general interest, anti-commie, pro-homeschool, kulturwar PING


5 posted on 01/09/2005 2:29:07 PM PST by King Prout (Halloween... not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Uncle George
Funny you say that. In school I learned that McCarthy was a fanatic who conducted a Communist Man Hunt that was like the Salem Witch Trials. Infact, I can say that idea was reinforced.
6 posted on 01/09/2005 2:29:51 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (“"Hi, I'm Richard Gere and I'm speaking for the entire world.” -Richard Gere)
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To: CHARLITE
If you haven't read it, you should take a look at Communist Goals from 1963, as elucidated in Cleon Skoun's book "The Naked Communist", which was also put into the congressional record at the time (I have validated it appears in the congressional record).

What always disturbs me is how many of these things have become a fait accompli.

7 posted on 01/09/2005 2:30:08 PM PST by jrpascucci (Terrorae delenda est)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Little has changed, teachers still despise McCarthy.


8 posted on 01/09/2005 2:32:04 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: blackeagle; Uncle George; commiehunter; King Prout; netmilsmom
I like him.

Wait a sec, we talking about Eugene, Joe or Charlie, here?

(Quizzical Smiley.)

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

9 posted on 01/09/2005 2:45:07 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Proud listener to politically pornographic, freakish talk show host, Sean Hannity!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
McCarthy saw the danger communism, if left unchecked, posed to America.
While his methods may have been, ummm, extreme, his intent was honorable.
To identify the persons within the communist movement and shed light on the rats.
I'm having a braim freeze here, someone please tell me the name of the man in FDR's adminstration, Asst Sec. of State, who was later identified as a communist.
10 posted on 01/09/2005 2:46:02 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: concretebob
braim=brain
11 posted on 01/09/2005 2:46:44 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: CHARLITE

The totalitarian utopia as imagined by American 'Progressives', is a larger threat to American freedom than Communism is or ever was.

Until that fact is realized, socialism will continue to advance like the progressive cancer it is.


12 posted on 01/09/2005 2:47:18 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: concretebob

alger hiss


13 posted on 01/09/2005 2:48:03 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: blackeagle

Not to mention also the despicable Harry Dexter White, and in the administration proper (as opposed to DoS), Harold Ickes Sr. and Averill Harriman.


14 posted on 01/09/2005 2:56:09 PM PST by SAJ
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To: blackeagle
Thats him...Thank you
15 posted on 01/09/2005 2:59:52 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: SAJ
uh huh...dem too
16 posted on 01/09/2005 3:00:41 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: concretebob

Your welcome.


17 posted on 01/09/2005 3:01:07 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: SAJ
Anyone notice the nepotism which abounds in our political system?
18 posted on 01/09/2005 3:01:58 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: concretebob
"I'm having a brain freeze here..."

I guess you'll have to re-read Anne Coulter's book, "Treason!"

Recommended reading for all concerned parents and believers in proper education and government.

19 posted on 01/09/2005 3:02:12 PM PST by NicknamedBob (The other side of my brain writes poetry.)
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To: NicknamedBob
I'm getting ready to watch my newly arrived DVD, "Is It True What They Say About Ann Coulter". I'll post a review when I'm done.
20 posted on 01/09/2005 3:04:43 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: CHARLITE

Dewey certainly knew what he wanted, but his vision of the future was pretty far from what most of us want. In whatever defense might be mustered for him I must say that this was twenty years before the Russian Revolution, and to the Fabians the socialist fantasy-world was fresh and compelling and not yet the bloodstained mess it turned out to be in real life. A lot of bright people were fooled: Bernard Shaw, H.G. Wells, Sidney and Beatrice Webb. These weren't Marxists; they felt their "Jevonian" approach an alternative to the starkness and violence of Marx. In the end they were only fooling themselves. Like a lot of smart people with theory on the brain they steadfastly denied contraindicative evidence and held with all their might to their illusions. Smart maybe, but not wise in any sense.


21 posted on 01/09/2005 3:07:29 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: concretebob

and here is the requsite image
22 posted on 01/09/2005 3:08:04 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: CHARLITE

Schools do not teach children to think in any way.

I tried being a teacher for a year. My model came from the Jesuits who taught me. As a result, I used a large vocabulary and gave essay tests. These two points were specifically mentioned in my negative evaluations.

After I tendered my resignation, I asked the advance placement kids (who were all great) what they thought of their education. They all said it was terrible because they couldn't write. I was floored because in high school the Jesuits forced us to write in every class (except mathematics).

Ever since, I have remembered a quote from Frank Zappa on how he raised his kids. He said

"I got them out of the public education system as fast as possible"


23 posted on 01/09/2005 3:14:16 PM PST by Trueredstater
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To: CHARLITE

Thank you for posting this!


24 posted on 01/09/2005 3:17:35 PM PST by Budge (<><)
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To: Trueredstater

I agree with those AP kids, that our education is horrible. I can barely put togther a decent report let alone a term paper.


25 posted on 01/09/2005 3:19:08 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: concretebob

Hey, just another family business, y'know (g!).


26 posted on 01/09/2005 3:29:38 PM PST by SAJ
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To: concretebob
While his methods may have been, ummm, extreme, his intent was honorable

Prompting the comment from another right wing Senator of his era to point out that "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice"

27 posted on 01/09/2005 3:36:31 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
"and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue"
28 posted on 01/09/2005 3:52:17 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: CHARLITE

Dewey began the decline of public education in America--
when the Federal govt. made a cabinet level position for
education Americans were forced to drink the hemlock that
will surely destroy us.


29 posted on 01/09/2005 3:54:19 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: All
Everybody, right now, go order this DVD.
It is FANTASTIC.
"Is It True What They Say About Ann?"
30 posted on 01/09/2005 3:54:25 PM PST by concretebob (The next time I turn the other cheek, it will be to line up a better shot.)
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To: weegee

fyi ping


31 posted on 01/09/2005 3:55:53 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: blackeagle
"im allways intrested in learning about McCarthy"

The more I learn about McCarthy the more I learn about the left-leaning bias of the MSM. While Joe certainly had his demons, he was correct in identifying the alarming presence of communists in the highest level of our government. He was destroyed by the left much as Gingrich was destroyed.

32 posted on 01/09/2005 4:01:38 PM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: All

Senator Joseph McCarthy was an American hero. His methods were not even close to extreme. However, as is always the case, those who attacked him and destroyed his reputation were the real extremists.

They are the leftists in the State Department, Congress, and the liberal mainstream media. It is amazing. These leftists engage in extreme character assassination, yet make it appear that their target, in this case McCarthy, is practicing the character assassination. They successfully project their sins upon the one they are accusing. It is done through "spin" mostly.

In reality, nobody McCarthy exposed as a communist was falsely accused, nobody!!! Therefore, he was not practicing any character asassination, he was instead bringing out the truth about these godless traitors. Had McCarthy succeeded, and we continued with his patriotic anti-communism mission, we would not be in the mess we are in today, FACT!


33 posted on 01/09/2005 4:12:51 PM PST by freeourpows (Dis-Education in America and Senator McCarthy)
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To: CHARLITE

ping this one for later


34 posted on 01/09/2005 4:18:25 PM PST by nattyman
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To: freeourpows

As one who voted for Joe McCarthy, the first time I was old enough to vote and the last time he ran for election, I offer my opinion that the principal reason for the hatred heaped on his reputation and memory is not his tactics, but the fact that on the larger issue of Communist influence at the highest levels --- yes, the very highest levels --- of the U. S. Government, McCarthy WAS CORRECT.
After all, the perverts who invented the crime of Borking can hardly, in a logical universe, presume to complain about the tactics employed by Joe McCarthy.


35 posted on 01/09/2005 4:35:41 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Trueredstater
Ever since, I have remembered a quote from Frank Zappa on how he raised his kids. He said "I got them out of the public education system as fast as possible"

Yeah, my model for raising kids would be someone who named his "Moon Unit" and "Dweezil".

NOT.

36 posted on 01/09/2005 4:47:18 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline, it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." - Frank Zappa

He attended (and may have even graduated from) a public high school in San Diego. ;-)

37 posted on 01/09/2005 4:54:41 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Diana; ...

38 posted on 01/09/2005 4:59:55 PM PST by Born Conservative (Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television - Archie Bunker)
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To: Elsiejay

Don't forget the media Zogbyism of the 2004 Presidential Election, which attempted to manufacture "news" items designed to take down President Bush.

Whether it was biased poll numbers or hoaxed "National Guard" memos (or hoaxed Abu Ghraib "rape" photos alongside the genuine photos of men with panties on their heads), there was a Soviet style smear campaign against this administration.


39 posted on 01/09/2005 5:01:20 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: freeourpows
These leftists engage in extreme character assassination, yet make it appear that their target, in this case McCarthy, is practicing the character assassination. They successfully project their sins upon the one they are accusing. It is done through "spin" mostly.

The best defense is a good offense. They call conservatives "fascists" to mask their own totalitarian nature (what are you going to say, "No, you are"?).

The violence, vandalism, and physical intimidation from the left this election shows them for the rabid brownshirts that they are. They had hoped to win and wouldn't be made to atone for their crimes (history is written by the victors).

40 posted on 01/09/2005 5:04:25 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: King Prout

BTTT !!


41 posted on 01/09/2005 5:25:59 PM PST by international american
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To: CHARLITE
Dewey’s theories, through his disciples, have eliminated teaching strict rules of grammar. Well, ain’t that special! Old fashioned spelling drills are gone. Who cares if it is spelled right as long as you understand what the writer intends? Penmanship is not even a word understood by many young people today, most have never heard of it. The math tables have been “de-emphasized”, which can be witnessed by so many young people at retail outlets who cannot figure change without a machine to figure it for them. I hear many parents complain about it, but do nothing. They just acquiesce.

Gee, I must be living on Mars, because none of that is happening in my daughter's PUBLIC school.

42 posted on 01/09/2005 6:52:29 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz
The facts are all right there for anyone who cares enough to open his eyes and mind and do the seeking of the truth in history. We must stop relying on those who control the dissemination of information in our society to be honest with us, that being the mainstream media, k-12 education, secondary education, the publishing companies, and the internationalists. People need to realize that truth is not found by just taking in what is thrown at us, we must seek it.

I got the sarcasm, Gabz. In teaching school I remember studying Dewey (1970) but the message was not so clear as this article. I was told that Dewey's theories represented one school of thought, and the moral values represented the other but data showed that what worked with any given student could not be predetermined. So it was just laid out that it was up to us and there was no "right way". I guess that was what Dewey wanted teachers to believe. We had a free hand and could not be blamed for our failure.

43 posted on 01/09/2005 7:51:20 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: blackeagle
That would be "You're welcome!" :) - It's a contraction, meaning "you are" = you're!!

........jus' trying to be helpful......

44 posted on 01/09/2005 7:54:25 PM PST by CHARLITE ((very-angry-and-not-going-to-take-it-anymore))
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To: CHARLITE

ALot of people don't want to hear this or acknowledge this. T

ime and time again, they'll say, "that's not happening in my public school..."

LOL!


45 posted on 01/09/2005 7:57:11 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Budge
You are most welcome. I've now been told by Nancy Salvato that The Rant is going to run this entire article by Jeff "Mario" Smith tomorrow (Monday 10th) or Tuesday.

Char

46 posted on 01/09/2005 7:57:31 PM PST by CHARLITE ((very-angry-and-not-going-to-take-it-anymore))
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To: KC_for_Freedom

There was no sarcasm in my comment. And I saw no sarcasm in this article.

Proper grammar, penmanship, and math tables ARE being taught in the school my daughter attends. Granted she is only in 1st and 2nd grade (no that is not a typo, she is in both grades) but I stand by my original comment regarding the quote I used from the article.


47 posted on 01/09/2005 8:27:37 PM PST by Gabz
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To: nmh; CHARLITE
T ime and time again, they'll say, "that's not happening in my public school..."

We can also prove it.

I haven't seen you disprove it........but I have noticed when you can't refute facts placed in front of your eyes you quietly disappear.

48 posted on 01/09/2005 8:30:35 PM PST by Gabz
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To: nmh

My, my, seems you've done it again.


49 posted on 01/09/2005 8:44:49 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Well, no need to post a defense, you are already here and have made those who stand overbearingly run!!


50 posted on 01/09/2005 8:51:30 PM PST by borntobeagle
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