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Hi, Why Did You Drop My Paper?(Kerry supporting paper Philly Inquirer)
NYTIMES ^ | 01/10/05 | ANNA BAHNEY

Posted on 01/09/2005 6:41:39 PM PST by Pikamax

Hi, Why Did You Drop My Paper? By ANNA BAHNEY

ournalists at The Philadelphia Inquirer began the new year in proper fashion, by working the phones. But some senior editors were not calling sources. They were calling readers.

On Thursday, a handful of top editors, including the executive editor, Amanda Bennett, began making personal phone calls to former subscribers, many of whom dropped the paper this year after The Inquirer ran a series of editorials favoring John F. Kerry for president.

"If the people I call say, 'Yes, I was mad at your editorial,' then the next thing I say is, 'Would you like to come in and talk about it?' " Ms. Bennett said.

The Inquirer's election coverage included a daily editorial page series called "21 Reasons to Elect Kerry" that began on Oct. 10 and ran to Election Day, addressing different aspects of Mr. Kerry's proposed policies. That feature was paired each day with an op-ed piece highlighting President Bush's policies and record on the same issue.

"I am sure we lost subscribers in the fall, given the intensity of emotions of this election and given the scrutiny of the media," said Chris Satullo, the editorial page editor. "We did our job rather forcefully in supporting Kerry, and that only raised the stakes."

Last week, the paper's circulation department came up with a list of a couple of hundred people who had canceled during the election cycle and had not been contacted. The list was divided among editors and editorial board members - each with 15 or 20 names - and they began calling.

It is too early in the dialing process to present any results or plans for future discourse, Mr. Satullo said. But he said that he relished the dialogue with readers, adding that he tried to steer them away from using the terms "bias" and "objectivity."

"Those terms have been drained of any stable meaning," he said. ANNA BAHNEY


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 1tellthemtohavea; 2merrychristmas; demfraud; demtreachery; kerry; liberalmedia; mediabias; msm; newspapers; philadelphiainquirer
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1 posted on 01/09/2005 6:41:42 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Hey Liberal Media, meet the free marketplace! Hurts don't it?


2 posted on 01/09/2005 6:42:59 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Pikamax

No such thing as bias anymore!

Dan Rather is off the hook!


3 posted on 01/09/2005 6:44:18 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Pikamax

Do they teach "stupid" in journalism school or is it an entry requirement?


4 posted on 01/09/2005 6:45:28 PM PST by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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To: Pikamax

If they were Catholics, this would be called penance for their sins. I can't imagine they are enjoying this demeaning chore.

I think it's pretty funny.


5 posted on 01/09/2005 6:48:05 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pikamax

I didn't know "I have a plan" was in and of itself a viable plan. I guess the Inquirer did... along with different, and better.


6 posted on 01/09/2005 6:48:18 PM PST by kylaka
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To: hometoroost
Do they teach "stupid" in journalism school or is it an entry requirement?

Yes.

7 posted on 01/09/2005 6:48:32 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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To: stands2reason

I love it! Journal News here in westchester fawns over hillary clinton so much that they blatantly omitted her campaign finance directors 4 count indictment today. I only hope that we can teach them a lesson the same way those Philly enquirer subscibers did. this is the new battle paradigm folks... hit them over the internet, expose them for what they are, discredit the papers & hold them accountable for their actions (or inactions in clinton's case)


8 posted on 01/09/2005 6:48:45 PM PST by gimmebackmyconstitution (join my alert list:Hillarysnightmare@hotmail.com)
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To: Pikamax
It is too early in the dialing process to present any results or plans for future discourse, Mr. Satullo said. But he said that he relished the dialogue with readers, adding that he tried to steer them away from using the terms "bias" and "objectivity." "Those terms have been drained of any stable meaning," he said.

Yeah, right, Satullo. You were last seen writing this moronic column that implicitly called for the death of President Bush:

Death to this salesman: A bum's rush on Social Security

9 posted on 01/09/2005 6:51:05 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: KoRn
"We did our job rather forcefully in supporting Kerry, and that only raised the stakes."

Read it and weep. Maybe they should make a special offer to potential subscribers in Germany and France.

10 posted on 01/09/2005 6:55:10 PM PST by Calusa (And the Government Shall Be Upon His Shoulders!!)
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To: Pikamax
The mainstream press still doesn't have a clue on why their patronage has taken a nosedive lately and why New Media (conservative talk radio, the Fox News Channel and the public Internet) have become so popular.
11 posted on 01/09/2005 6:55:28 PM PST by RayChuang88
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"a list of a couple of hundred people who had canceled during the election cycle and had not been contacted"

Multiple ways to read this. If--as is likely--the paper had MANY more than 200 who canceled--this could be a waffle phrase to save the ad rates which drop when circulation drops. If there were only a couple of hundred who cancelled, (again that is very likely NOT the truth) then we need to help people understand that if we continue supporting these partisan media they will continue propagandizing...on OUR dime.

I note that the Exec. Ed. merely invited people to take THEIR time to travel and come to HER office....any FOOL that does will be used as cannon fodder for their future "objective" posturing....


12 posted on 01/09/2005 6:56:33 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (REMEMBER THE ALGOREAMO--relentlessly DEMAND the TRUTH, like the Dems demand recounts!)
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To: Pikamax
"We did our job rather forcefully in supporting Kerry"

We were given the task of destroying Bush's campaign. We wanted to influence the election, and get a left-wing extremist into the Whitehouse -- we just never expected it to have an impact on our circulation.

13 posted on 01/09/2005 6:57:11 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Pikamax
Mr. Satullo's garbage has graced the pages of FreeRepublic before. Anyone who is involved in producing a newspaper, and yet who says, that he "tried to steer them away from using the terms 'bias' and 'objectivity...' [and who said that] Those terms have been drained of any stable meaning," deserves this:

The newspaper he works for should shrivel and die. He should be fired. And anywhere else that he applies for a job should reject him on the spot, given his black-death history in publishing. Of course, his wife should leave him, his children turn against him, and if I were really hostile, I'd hope to poison his well and shoot his dog. But I like dogs.

Congressman Billybob

Click for latest, "Lessons from Waves of Disaster"

14 posted on 01/09/2005 6:58:59 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: Pikamax

I'm surprised the media isn't crying censorship the way the Hollywierd leftists did when people started boycotting their movies.


15 posted on 01/09/2005 6:59:14 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: Pikamax
It's interesting that "professional journalists" think that the word "bias" no longer has any meaning, yet their own readers can spot their blatant bias with no problem at all and get ticked off enough about it to cancel their subscriptions. Sounds like they've given up trying to argue that they're not biased and are now simply denying the existence of the concept because it's easier.

I write a little topical radio comedy service, but I think I make far more effort to insure that the news set-ups to my jokes are objective and impartial than does anyone at CBS, the NY Times, et al. Since they find it impossible even to grasp the concept of bias, if Peter Jennings would like, I'd be happy to go through his news script every night before airtime with a blue pencil and remove the bias, which to me practically leaps out of the TV screen.

16 posted on 01/09/2005 6:59:51 PM PST by HHFi
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To: hometoroost

I don't think it's an entry requirement, but it is a prerequisite for graduation. If you weren't when you arrived, you will be, before they allow you to graduate.


17 posted on 01/09/2005 7:03:17 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Pikamax
It must burn Ms. Bennett, and Mr. Satullo a$$ that I, in my pajamas can scoop them.

A St. Pete Times dialer called last night and asked if I want to subscribe to their newspaper. I told the lady to give me a second to ask my parrot. She stayed on the line a good two minutes.

5.56mm

18 posted on 01/09/2005 7:03:28 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Pikamax

I dropped the ultra liberal San Jose Mercury News over a year ago. I had subscribed to it for over 30 years. I now get all my news from the Internet.


19 posted on 01/09/2005 7:03:51 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (Now is the time for all wise men to gloat. FOUR MORE YEARS,)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Psalm 109, esp. v. 5-19.


20 posted on 01/09/2005 7:05:05 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Pikamax

Maybe some of these major newspapers ought to start editorializing on how John Kerry should now disclose his "secret plan to end the war". Sure, he lost the election and all, but for the good of the country and the benefit of the troops, he should tell us what his plan is and every newspaper, especially those which endorsed him, should be pressuring him to do so. Yeah, sure, that'll happen.

It is good to see some of these a--hole "news" people reduced to doing telephone solicitation work, though. Working there way down to their appropriate role in the business - having their own paper routes.


21 posted on 01/09/2005 7:06:33 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Pikamax
If the people I call say, 'Yes, I was mad at your editorial,' then the next thing I say is, 'Would you like to come in and talk about it?' " Ms. Bennett said.

And my response would be "Why bother talking about it - it would be like talking to a brick wall."

Nothing any reader can say will change their mind. Bennett and their other editorial board members have been on Philly talk radio, and it is clear that they could really care less about what their readers think, or about any "diversity" of thought at their paper.

22 posted on 01/09/2005 7:07:07 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Blurblogger

Yes, i picked that up too. was the NYT trying to say that the effect was a small & insignificant impact on the paper, or where those 200 part of a much larger group? I only know that the rules are being rewritten folks! We can topple newsprint media into irrelevance if they do not report fairly and not show obvious partisan bias. We only need to harness technology in the right way... Blogging is the new flamethrower for us!


23 posted on 01/09/2005 7:07:21 PM PST by gimmebackmyconstitution (join my alert list:Hillarysnightmare@hotmail.com)
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To: Calusa
"We did our job rather forcefully in supporting Kerry, and that only raised the stakes."

Uhm, dumb@ss? Your "job" is to report the news OBJECTIVELY.

24 posted on 01/09/2005 7:09:28 PM PST by Malacoda
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To: Emmett McCarthy

ah yes.... newspaper staffers making cold calls, no let me rephrase that.. (ice calls LOL!)in order to convince offended readers to come back to the ranch & drink the kool-aid (trademark).


25 posted on 01/09/2005 7:10:29 PM PST by gimmebackmyconstitution (join my alert list:Hillarysnightmare@hotmail.com)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

On Thursday, a handful of top editors, including the executive editor, Amanda Bennett, began making personal phone calls to former subscribers, many of whom dropped the paper this year after The Inquirer ran a series of editorials favoring John F. Kerry for president.

"If the people I call say, 'Yes, I was mad at your editorial,' then the next thing I say is, 'Would you like to come in and talk about it?' " Ms. Bennett said.


26 posted on 01/09/2005 7:14:16 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Pikamax

The irony: Conservatives are the subversives, getting truth to the masses by bucking the corporate masters and writing in their pajamas.

Liberals who work their 9-5 job and go to the office everyday disdain this.


27 posted on 01/09/2005 7:17:50 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: HHFi
It's interesting that "professional journalists" think that the word "bias" no longer has any meaning,

Sure they know what bias is. Ask them for an example and they will point to Fox News. Fox News has not run with hoaxes the way that the New York Times, Boston Globe, LA Times, BBC, USA Today, NBC, AP, and CBS have.

28 posted on 01/09/2005 7:18:03 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: hometoroost

Apparently journalism school is where one goes to enhance, refine, and develop one's stupid. Occasionally some boob will go for surgery to have more impressive, yet fake and ultimately unsatisfying stupids, but it really helps to have a lot of stupid already when one first signs up.


29 posted on 01/09/2005 7:19:54 PM PST by thoughtomator (Rooting for a Jets-Vikings Superbowl!)
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To: hometoroost
Do they teach "stupid" in journalism school or is it an entry requirement?

No. There is a Dumb Pill tablet dispenser at the water cooler.

I've seen this mentality at IBM's RTP in Raleigh, NC. Some of these people drift around in a daze when they're not just reading newspapers and drinking coffee.

No wonder IBM sold off its PC didivsion to the Chinese last month.

The only intelligent person I met was a retired A10 pilot who was the IBM project manager of my project on the JD Edwards software side.

30 posted on 01/09/2005 7:21:31 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: gimmebackmyconstitution
I love it! Journal News here in westchester fawns over hillary clinton...

I assume you live in Westchester, NY?

31 posted on 01/09/2005 7:23:43 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Pikamax; Dog; Owl_Eagle; Temple Owl; cmsgop; Lancey Howard; blam; randita; PA Engineer; ...
"I am sure we lost subscribers in the fall, given the intensity of emotions of this election and given the scrutiny of the media," said Chris Satullo, the editorial page editor. "We did our job rather forcefully in supporting Kerry, and that only raised the stakes."

If they are calling folks .. they lost ALOT more subscribers then just from the election

The Philly Inquirer is a liberal rag

32 posted on 01/09/2005 7:24:25 PM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: Pikamax

The only newspaper that I have read since college in 1968, is the Wall Street Journal.


33 posted on 01/09/2005 7:26:25 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Pikamax

I've been calling for all Freepers to cancel their pro-Kerry and pro-democrap papers for years now. I hope they tell the Philly pukes to "shove it". Very Heinzish term they can understand.


34 posted on 01/09/2005 7:28:17 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is (no longer) a threat to national security)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Hey, I finally figured out what the Traitor's doing in the ME. He's gathering support for his plan. When he comes home he's going to make a big speech in the Senate that if the people would have only elected him he would have be able to stop the war all the leaders of the ME told him they'd stop. NOT


35 posted on 01/09/2005 7:28:38 PM PST by MKM1960
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To: Pikamax
Would you like to come in and talk about it?

I don't buy it for a second...I once called an editor at the SF Chron to complained about an editorial....He basically told me to get lost. I canceled.

36 posted on 01/09/2005 7:29:47 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Blurblogger
The leftest Houston Chronicle has been suffering for years with the strong VRWC population in the greater Houston area -

Last year when they used the death of a local Marine in Iraq to slap "W" - even after an appeal from the Marines family that stated they supported Bush, the chronicle's subscription rate dropped by the thousands...

They have now resorted to throwing thousands of free papers on area lawns just so they can claim a circulation rate high enough to charge more for their ads.

37 posted on 01/09/2005 7:30:58 PM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Pikamax
I sent the following letter to the Editor of the Inquirer. I'll follow up if there is any response.

Dear Ms. Bennett,

I have just read an article in your newspaper about a process of listing former subscribers and having staff members contact them to find out why they have rejected your newspaper. The article ends with the following, incredible lines:

> It is too early in the dialing process to present any results or plans for future discourse, Mr. Satullo said. But he said that he relished the dialogue with readers, adding that he tried to steer them away from using the terms "bias" and "objectivity."

> "Those terms have been drained of any stable meaning," he said.

Though my principal activity in my career has been practicing law in the US Supreme Court, I have kept my hand in, in journalism for 41 years. All told, I've published about three million words, not including legal briefs which, fairly assessed, are not written in English. So there is a basis for what follows:

My conclusions from that coda in your paper to that article are threefold: I trust the quote is accurate, since your reporter is quoting one of your own. Any person who would say such a thing should not be employed by any reputable news outlet. And any news outlet which saw fit to retain the services of such a person should lose its readers, listeners, viewers (as the case ma be) and go out of business.

Since I've had prior correspondence with Mr. Satullo and find him to be as clueless in person as he seems in writing, I have not written to him on this occasion. You may, of course, share this with him.

Although I have written this to you personally, you are welcome to treat this as an ordinary letter to the editor.

I have provided my address in case you choose to respond. I would be interested to know whether you are seriously interested in the pending demise of your newspaper.

Sincerely,

Billybob

38 posted on 01/09/2005 7:31:21 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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But he said that he relished the dialogue with readers, adding that he tried to steer them away from using the terms "bias" and "objectivity." "Those terms have been drained of any stable meaning," he said.

Earth to Inky: WORDS MEAN THINGS. Moreover, words are your stock in trade. "Bias" and "objectivity" may mean nothing to you, but they mean something to the rest of us. Look into them.

39 posted on 01/09/2005 7:31:25 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Mo1

I think we are living in a time when the Philadelphia Inquirer is less reputable than the National Enquirer.


40 posted on 01/09/2005 7:31:25 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Pikamax
Okay, okay, okay. How about instead of bias, we use "prejudice"? Or do you think they would better understand the french translation.."polarisation"? We are gonna have to be more creative with our thesaurus. They are getting tired of bias (maybe the book title scares them).

TC

41 posted on 01/09/2005 7:31:29 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: Mo1

The Libs still don't get it. This is very good for our side.


42 posted on 01/09/2005 7:32:01 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Pikamax

The only reason why many people subscribe to rags like the Inquirer is the coupons.

I stopped subscribing to the Baltimore Sun over 20 years ago and I love it when I get a call from them to resubscribe. Never mind that it's only a telemarketer calling, I still love to rant at them.


43 posted on 01/09/2005 7:32:49 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Pikamax; All

SHUT UP PHILLY INqurior editor

I don't know about you guys I be throw f-bomb at this guy on the phone

Trust me he wouldn't want me meet in person to person


44 posted on 01/09/2005 7:33:03 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: VRWCTexan
They have now resorted to throwing thousands of free papers on area lawns

When the SF Chron did this, I called 'em up and told them that if they didn't stop littering my driveway, I'd have 'em arrested! True.

45 posted on 01/09/2005 7:35:01 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: SevenofNine
Trust me he wouldn't want me meet in person to person.

Dude, I think somebody just stuned your beeber.

46 posted on 01/09/2005 7:36:33 PM PST by highimpact (The only way to defeat terrorism is to annihilate the terrorists)
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To: hometoroost
Do they teach "stupid" in journalism school or is it an entry requirement?

As I recall from my days at the university, those who failed in the sciences became business majors. And those who failed as business majors became liberal arts majors. And those who failed as liberal arts majors became journalism majors. The only major below journalism was ornamental horticulture and basket weaving, as I recall.

I have probably insulted thousands of folks with this post, but what they hey. Flames really can't propagate through cyberspace anyway. LOL!

47 posted on 01/09/2005 7:37:54 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Cobra64

Yes, I have lived here 39 years longer than Hillary & Bill have. We worked tirelessly to defeat her in 2000. Now, we are working even harder to defeat her in '06.


48 posted on 01/09/2005 7:39:57 PM PST by gimmebackmyconstitution (join my alert list:Hillarysnightmare@hotmail.com)
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To: stands2reason
The Fourth Estate really went after Rather tooth and nail, didn't they? So much for their unbiased search for the truth. Feh.
49 posted on 01/09/2005 7:40:23 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Pikamax
"We did our job rather forcefully in supporting Kerry....

Losers supporting losers.

50 posted on 01/09/2005 8:01:31 PM PST by Jorge
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