Posted on 01/10/2005 2:10:56 AM PST by kattracks
A 50-year-old nanny has been charged with child endangerment after she was caught on a nursery Web cam hitting and shaking the infant she was supposed to be caring for, cops said yesterday.Fook Moy of Elmhurst, Queens, was arrested after the 6-month-old's horrified mother watched Moy banging the child up and down on the floor, then placing a pillow over his head while smacking the pillow and yelling, "Stop crying! Stop crying!" cops said.
The parents, who live in Roslyn Harbor, L.I., told cops they hired Moy on Jan. 2 to cover while their regular nanny went on vacation.
Two days later, the parents found bruises on their baby's face and decided to watch the camera, which they had installed to keep track of their child's growth.
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This news leaves me utterly speechless....
I am a conscientious libertarian/conservative who believes a respectful fear of God, resulting in self-control and moral living pre-empt the need for myriad laws. Simple laws-- promptly and consistently enforced--preclude the need for infinitely 'nuanced' laws that STILL don't have Bill Clinton in jail and John Kerry-Fonda executed for treason. This government is wholly inadequate for the governing of an immoral people, said one founding father....
That said, sometimes...like this one...
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
is a good thing.
For several reasons. They put in a camera to keep track of their child's growth?
They sound too busy to be tracking the child's growth first hand --- maybe they figure they'd record it and if they felt like watching it would be after they retired or something.
Too busy to care for their own baby, too busy to take the baby to a decent day care or babysitter. Too busy to just drop in on their home and find out what goes on.
Really! What kind of person would leave their kid alone with someone named Fook Moy?! Austin Powers becomes reality TV!
That is what the modern culture tells us, that one can have a child and still continue whatever other pursuits one has.
The child is an after thought.
Did the baby stop crying?
This is what happens when one foregoes one's own responsibilities and pawns them off on others - even for hire - in the name of one's own interests. Don't want people abusing your kids, stay home and take care of them yourself.
Common sense; but, apparently something lacking in America since the 60s
But how can I afford the Mercedes Benz and Antigua vacations if my wife and I don't both work? (>/sarcasm off>)
I really wonder about this family's priorities. Why can't they scale down their lifestyle so one of them can take care of the baby? Then again, this is Long Island. I have friends who bought a 1,300 square foot house in Port Washington, and their annual property taxes are over $20,000. So they aren't living in luxury, but the LI property tax rates sort of ensure that their expenses will be high. They don't have kids yet, but after they do, I wonder how they'll be able to have one person stay home and still pay these insane property taxes.
Good point. One person used to be able to afford to maintain a family in this nation. Perhaps we should be asking why it is not so now and looking at how to get back there. As wealthy as this nation is, there's no excuse for what's been going on.
The answer is dead simple: Government is twice as big as it used to be.
Any Republicans not willing to make cuts that big are NOT family friendly.
You don't have any children, do you?
Government being twice as big doesn't explain why paychecks today are half as much and shrinking in worth. Last I knew, paychecks are issued by companies being worked for.. not the government. And the companies continually seek to make people work for less and do more for it.
Well, having been on both sides of that question, I can say that it can be done...but it's not an easy thing to do. In our case, it's even easier, since we have so many that would have to be in daycare that we would be committing fiscal suicide if I were working.
We moved to a lower cost of living area, since my husband's job is easy to find anywhere, and we have very little debt. Until recently, we never made enough to be able to, and now we've gotten used to it.
However, there are lots of folks who just can't afford it, and they aren't exactly living large and ignoring their kids. It's a bit difficult to manage if one of you doesn't have a well-paying job. Both my parents worked like dogs to provide for us, and we had very little extras. I don't think they were selfish people at all...quite the contrary.
mom, stay home and raise your child
Look at the statistics. Paychecks have not been shrinking (on average, anyway - your milage may vary) while government has grown to at least twice the share of GDP it had in the 1950's.
Cut government in half and you will not only be able to afford to have the wife stay home, but your job will pay better and the whole economy will grow faster, too.
Moy claimed the pillow-hitting was a method used to discipline babies in China, a police source said.
And I agree with the other posters that putting in a camera to monitor a child's growth sounds pretty bizarre. I wonder if they meant to capture milestones, like first steps, etc. If so, that's pretty sad.... relying on a camera to see your child's first steps....
Moy claimed the pillow-hitting was a method used to discipline babies in China, a police source said.........ancient chinese secret?
Why don't these parents simply raise their own children?
I am so sick of hearing about "caregivers" and "nannies." A mother is meant to be the one who gives her baby breastmilk, phsyical comfort and security, maintenance, and love. If these women would actually give up their selfish pursuits and raise the children they bring into the world, few of these situations would occur. That poor baby was crying for his mother; in retun he gets physically injure by a person who could not care less for him.
I have no respect for these so-called "parent." Mom, go home and be a mom to your baby, while there is still time.
Pugh!
/JMHO
If they can't act as the parent they share in the guilt.
'I would think that they would have stated they put a camera in to track the child-care provider's treatment of their child while they were away.
Yet, to my surprise, to track their child's growth.'
It does not really matter at all in this story what the parents said the reason for the camera was for, the most important thing is that this low-life was caught and is arrested. May God have mercy on her soul!
The combined governmental tax rate is 57%. Our family gross income is $55,000. Subtract the tax rate (-$23,650), and we're left with a net income of $31,350.
I think poverty level for a family of 4 is $32,000, so we're actually taxed back to poverty level by our own governments!
We are also left with the choice of either trying to squeak by, or making up the difference by having a second income.
Gee THANKS, Uncle Sam!
>>annual property taxes are over $20,000<<
What's the value of the home?
I think the net income & the income taken by the governments should be swapped, but you get the idea. :)
No amount of money parents spend on "things" for their children; the best nannys, toys, pre-schools, etc. will ever give the children what is most important to their physical and emotional health and growth - a full time parent on hand to love, nurture and encourage them.
Now that's some figuring that's worth the attached commentary, thank you. I'm all for small government. And I'm with you on being taxed backward everytime one gets ahead of things. Government trade policy cost me my career and I'm still trying to find work 3 months later.. Can't even find a job flipping burgers here and just about at the end of my rope before taking advantage of unemployment - which I'm on my way to check into now as it happens. One more person on the government's back now instead of taking care of myself - and not by my own choice. I can't tell you how infuriating it is.. But, I'm off.
I don't buy that. It can be done. It is being done on one income. True, the Mercedes and Antigua vacations and fur coats may be scarce, or may have to planned for, and dare we say it--"budgeted" for, but it can be done. After having some "help" in my home, I decided it was far more trouble than it was worth and it really is. How are they ever going to remedy what has happened to their child? One of them needs to stay home.
Good post. It'd be very comforting to ascribe to every misfortune some rational responsibility (they should have known a tidal wave was coming, they should stay home and raise their own kids, etc.). I fall into myself. So does my wife. But sometimes ppl do their best and bad things still happen. Personally, I wouldn't want a kid I couldn't afford, so I don't have any. I don't see how ppl manage. I wouldn't put a kid in day care, but that's just me. I also wouldn't send a kid to a public school.
Well, to me, as a Mom, it does matter. I cannot imagine missing any moment of my children's life, and hope not to.
To have to view "what happened to my child today, and how did they grow and learn" on video is a real sad state of affairs for parenting.
Yes, I believe the temp. caregiver did commit a horrible act and should be punished as harshly as possible. But the bottom line is...parents need to start being parents again.
I am personally of the belief that part of the willingness to blame the parents in cases like this is that everyone wants to believe that it can't happen to them. If you can distance yourself from it, it's easier to convince yourself that it won't happen to you.
We all do the best we can as parents, so I hate to see people get bashed over what happened to their child in this case. The nanny is the one who beat their baby...not them. Having a nanny is not, imo, an irresponsible thing. If you can afford one, though, I have to wonder why you do, kwim?
Yeah, that's probably right. I live up on a hill, and when ppl get flooded, I sit back and say "you shouldn't have built a home on a flood plane." Makes me feel better to think it's avoidable and ppl are just stupid. Then again, I live right next to the highest point in NJ, so if I ever get flooded, the whole state of NJ is already gone. But I digress. You're right. Ppl like to think they can control things that sometimes can't be controlled.
A little bit of day care isn't bad if the child is older, not an infant, and if the child likes it. It depends on the child - some love getting to play with other kids. My daughter LOVED it, but she was 3, an only child, and apparently bored at home. She would have gone full time if we let her.
>>Personally, I wouldn't want a kid I couldn't afford, so I don't have any. I don't see how ppl manage. I wouldn't put a kid in day care, but that's just me. I also wouldn't send a kid to a public school.<<
What? Am I reading a post from someone with self restraint? I don't believe it!
Why don't you want a baby that you can show off to all the relatives after they have hounded you for years to have a child?.......As if they were going to pay all of the costs and dole out the time and energy needed to properly raise the little guy/gal.
When I was in my 20's every dang relative that I had was bugging me 12/7 about getting married. Finally I learned the trick. Don't reply, just put your hand out. When they say, "What?" reply, "Come on, cough up the money. You pay my bills, find me the time to spend with a wife and still let me work 10 hours a day because I want to invest 50% of my paycheck for a few more years.
Amazingly, ask those questions once, they changed the subject and never asked it again! They knew that they were up to their ears in bills and needing time for everything.
When I did get married, at 32 they realized, yup by golly there is two ways for people to do everything. There's the dumb way and the dumber way.
27 years later, my wife and I will take the dumb way, thank you all. My daughters, 24 and 25 have also chosen the dumb way much to the sadness of half a dozen young men who have tried to put a ring in their nose.
I would like to give my inlaws some grandkids, but that alone just isn't enough of a reason to have em, given that, as you say, we'd have to raise em and pay for em and all that. My grandma actually advised me personally not to have kids, because my own homelife was such a mess, she said I'd have no basis for correct child rearing. Maybe that's harsh and negative, but I actually took it to heart. Heck, I was such a mess, it took me an extra 7-10 years after high school just to get my own act together (to the extent it is.) Now I'm trying to take care of my financial needs for the future, plus trying to be ready to provide for my inlaws when they get older. Paying off a house, saving for retirement. I'm in decent shape right now. No debt except for 15 yr mortgage. We hope to have the house paid for by age 50. Both of us are savers, so we have emergency cash on hand, plus investments which we pay into monthly for later use. We drive used cars, we shop at Wal Mart, we don't go out very much. If we had a kid, I think we'd be financially stressed, and I'm sorry, I don't want to live like that. As it is, health or other catastrophe can strike at any time and torpedo what little financial security we have.
look for legalized euthenasia of the elderly and anyone else who is 'inconvenient'
"Big Brother" has nothing to do with this. There was no governmental involvement in this exercise in private initiative.
While it is, theoretically, possible that even my own mother could have beaten my babies during an evening of babysitting, it was HIGHLY unlikely. Let's not act as though most of us were just sitting under a lucky cloud that kept our babies safe.
It has always been rare for me to use a babysitter. Those I did use were good friends and experienced mothers. Personally, I would never be comfortable with an infant in one on one nanny care. There is no one around to see what is going on. While a day care facility may bring added germs, there is always more than one adult around. This was a substitute nanny. How do you walk out of your house and leave your baby with a TOTAL stranger?
Heck, my kid's middle school Principal offered to drive him home from school one day (the whole class had missed the bus). I don't care who the heck thought he was such a swell guy that they let him be a Principal, but my kid wasn't getting into a car with him.
You are not being taxed at a 57% rate on 55,000 income.
Pretty cool idea, actually....
Fair enough. The point that I am driving at is that you can't control everyone. How many people have mistaken the kindly neighbor or child's friend's mother for someone safe? You do what you can to protect your kids, but it's not always enough.
There was nothing that I read in the report that suggested these parents didn't check out the temporary nanny before they hired here, or that they didn't have a trial run to see how things went. I have seen reports of women using identity theft to get nannying jobs that they otherwise would never have gotten. Stealing or using someone else's references as their own, and then they have a winning personality upon the first couple of meetings. There is simply not enough information in the article to condemn these parents out of hand as irresponsible me-first people, imo.
You worry too much. Children are costly but I would have just wasted the 400 grand anyway now I have two strapping sons to brag about and catch grief from.
They are kind of like Say's Law anyway wrt money. People with far less resources and gumption than you raise kids with few real problems.
So no more excuses get than Population Explosion exploding.
When my wife was younger, she would voluteer some of her spare time to babysitting kids while the parents were in church on Sunday morning.
That also taught her quite a bit about child behavior. the older ladies tried to stick her with the job of changing diapers and cleaning up afterwards. One call from me to the president of the Ladies Guild took care of that nonsense.
That gave her a pretty good idea on which parents to look up to and who not to. Some folks seem to have it together but the answer is in their kids. Good kids = good parenting, which is nothing nore than more love than the kid can stand and a solid set of rules that don't change as fast as the TV channel does.
If your wife ever wants to have a part time job taking care of the little ones, hospitals and churchs need all the help they can get.
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