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Skip to comments.Mel Gibson post-award press conference-"Kinship" with Michael Moore
Posted on 01/10/2005 10:33:48 AM PST by bushfamfan
Does anyone have the quotes that Mel Gibson apparently made after receiving his People's Choice Award in saying he felt a "kinship" with Michael Moore and attacking the war in Iraq?
I am sayine Crusades were Political not from any biblical scripture
I never said that.... ;-)
However there is some weird need of many FReepers to create "Us" and "Them" situations, regardless of whether or not the particular players really involved feel that way.
The Crusades were self-defense of Christians coming to aid other Christians and fall directly in line with that Christ said in scripture.
Who cares if he is, that in no way justifies your leftist like questioning of his religiosity. The Passion was one of the finest films ever made, if he wants to reach out to the leftist that is his perogitive. Not everybody is in love with Bush like you are.
This is still Hollywood, so I ask the question "What type of an ass would go to an awards ceremony and bash someone else winning an award in a different category?" or "What type of an ass of a PR person would let his/her client bash someone else winning an award in a different category?"
These two still want their respective audiences and some other "swing" viewers to come to their movies in the future...
Yeah, this "Bushfamfan" is psycho on this thread, I mean just totally hatefilled and crazed. Either they're a binary thinker incapable of seeing anything other than Bush worship as "conservative" or there are other reasons for this rumor-post. Incendentally, the DUmmies are having a big laugh at Bushfamfan's expense.
And Michael Moore liked The Passion. There ya go. Proof of a conspiracy between the two of them.
I agree....seems rather counter-productive IMO.
I am proud to say it again, it is and it is easily going to be the most powerful experience I have ever had in a movie theatre.
Paleos are so cute when they shill for their anti-American pals.
I thought I was a neo-con and it was the paleos who hated this movie? No wait the "paleos" liked it because they're all anti semites. I need a scorecard to keep up with paranoid raving lunatics set on here.
My family members who were Democrats didn't hate blacks and Jews.
Economically, Dixiecrats really were simply a bunch of cracker populists; socially, they were class warriors. On foreign policy, they identified with the John Birch Society.
We were talking Democrats not Dixiecrats.
Hung up on the SSPX as well, huh?
Awe Bushfamfan, lookie here. You have made people laught today!
"True Christians were not part of the crusades..."
that's completely false. The several hundred thousand crusaders over the few centuries were certainly following the orders of the one true Church of the time, and most probably believed in the cause.
You can't just look at past Christian atrocities and claim that the people weren't Christian due to their actions. If that's the case, then I dare say there isn't a single 'true Christian' on earth and never will be, since everyone will fail and sin at some point. Just because this is inevitable doesn't make one a non-Christian.
"Crusades and the Holocaust has nothing absolouetly nothing to do with Jesus Christ and his message to the entire human race."
Of course the Holocaust was nothing but pure evil and had nothing to do with any religion. I don't know why you used that in your example above.
But the Crusades were based in the religion of Christianity and the participants who fought, slaughtered, killed, and were killed by Muslims were Christians.
Sorry, but you can't rewrite history just because some of the facts are unsettling.
for instance, in 500 years, are people going to try to say that the 9-11 perps weren't 'real' Muslims?
Are you a former SSPX? How do you know this? Tell us about your experiences that make you so informed?
"Mel is a sinner just like the rest of us he did something extraordinary that defied a heathen secular society Hollywood.. "
I've done nothing extraordinary to defy Hollywood.
Oh wait - there's some missing punctuation in that sentence, I think...
"what did you do with GOD's money? "
You have no idea what I do with MY money. You also have no idea of the health of my own children, esp. my 2 year old child, nor what my family is going thru as a result. To hell with phony Mel and his millions. I could not care less how much he has nor how he spends it. I was not a fan of him using the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ to make a billion dollars, any more than I was a fan of a lying televangelist. I'm just happy I didn't get suckered into giving him any of MY money.
Please get off your high seat of judgement, as it decreases your credibility more than your total lack of punctuation.
I second that. Just proves that Hollywood is completely irrelevant.
If Mr. Gibson's participation in the film is what attracted you to the Passion of Christ, then you went for the wrong reasons. If folks feel used, then maybe they jumped the wrong bandwagon to begin with.
None of the Christians I know will be returning the Passion because of Gibson's comments. Though most of the folks I know put spiritual truth ahead of political banter.
But, by all means, banter.
In the future?? Currently Muslims are saying the Terrorists are not real Muslims of ISLAM?
"I am sayine Crusades were Political not from any biblical scripture"
I agree. However, the thousands of regular-guy soldiers were, for the most part, Christian in belief.
But yeah - the Church itself was mostly a corrupt political organization throughout the Middle Ages. Money and Power will do that to ya!
"Currently Muslims are saying the Terrorists are not real Muslims of ISLAM?"
Moderates are saying this, but not the idiot imams and clerics.
Politics has always been crossed with Religion if there was no religion I am sure there would not be any wars, this is been happening since Day 1
"Not everybody is in love with Bush like you are."
Nope. I'm not, but I'm a fiscal conservative and thus dislike most of Bush's fiscal policies. Unlike Bush, I'm not a fan of more and bigger gov't.
"Politics has always been crossed with Religion if there was no religion I am sure there would not be any wars, this is been happening since Day 1"
Sad but true.
I'm enjoying our responses, btw. Sorry for the snippy one I sent.
mmmmm,k? You realize that my comment was towards the Bushbot that started this insipid thread right?
"Christianity is not pathetic pacifism."
Christ was the ultimate pacifist. Rather than shoot lightning bolts out of his eyes at the Romans, he allowed himself to be killed. He said love your enemy, and there's precious little of that among Christians I know. I don't love MY enemy, so don't think I'm preaching. I'm just saying it makes sense for a devout Christian to be against the war. I'm for the war, and I'm not a devout Christian.
He made quick work of the money changers in the temple for a pacifist!
I see you aren't familiar with all my posts. I get slammed from Bush lovers because I am very critical of the President. The point is he isn't reaching out, he is one who sees Michael Moore and his film as respectable, likeable film. There is no excuse for that and it's for people to be informed that he does in fact embrace something like Fahrenheit 9/11.
Where does it say that Gibson is embracing Farenheit 9/11? You might as well say that Gibson loved Farenheit 9/11...
You're fine with Mel praising Fahrenheit 9/11, fine. You do know what that is about, don't you? Now tell me one good thing about Fahrenheit 9/11? Is that really such a Christian thing of Mel to do in praising a film that lashes out at George W. Bush for taking us to war for oil and profit, to lie and send our men and women to die for his deliberate lies? I have a serious problem with that.
At least we still have Bruce Willis
At least we still have Bruce Willis
Did you find any quotes or sources yet?
I recall even before the Passion came out, Mel expressed his disagreement with going into Iraq, so this doesn't hugely surprise me.
"Christ was the ultimate pacifist.
He made quick work of the money changers in the temple for a pacifist!"
Yeah the body parts of his victim were strewn across the temple. /sarcasm
Seriously though, can anyone cite an act of violence committed by christ other than throwing the moneychangers out of tht temple?
You know what I have a serious problem with? Posters who somehow are equating Christianity with a person's political beliefs - and they are becoming rampant on FreeRepublic. Christianity does not = Republican Party or Bush Policies or Support For The War.
If Jesus is not a god of love and understanding what was his goal on earth? What is Jesus' true message if it is not, "love thy neighbor"?
He is not a conservative. Did you hear what he said in his interview with Diane Sawyer? He is a conservative catholic...not a conservative.
Mel Gibson is as liberal as any in Hollywood.
Don't kid yourself.
I agree with you completely.
Mel has shown his true colors...which really were not so hidden to start with...
Mel has been bashing our troops for a long time. Get a revelation people.
He made alot of cash.
End of story.
He is a religious catholic....and he even said he doesn'tknow if he will go to heaven or not. He says his wife won't because she isn't catholic.
He is nutcase.
Jesus took the bullet for us. He expects us to do the same. "Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." Going to war to save 25 million people from tyranny and oppression is very, very Christian. Living in denial and fear is not.
"As He died to make men holy let us die to make men free..." Battle Hymn of the Republic, verse 2.
amen to that
"You realize that my comment was towards the Bushbot that started this insipid thread right?"
Yep - just showin' some solidarity!
Mel Gibson is COMPLETELY HOLLYWOOD
Utter nonsense. You'll find many conservative atheists and liberal Christians. Christian and conservative are not synonyms.
The aboslute nerve of him not presuming he will go to heaven. - sarcasm
I'm familiar with these.
I get slammed from Bush lovers because I am very critical of the President.
Considering your HANDLE, color me suspicious of that.
The point is he isn't reaching out, he is one who sees Michael Moore and his film as respectable, likeable film.
Now you're moderating your tone? You were questioning the validity of the movie the Passion that he made and his sincerity of being religious, that's something the Left does, its a cheap shot not to mention unprovable. I disagree that he is reaching out, and doing it well, on the DU post (where they are making fun of you by the way "turning" on him FYI) they where greatly praising Gibson. Guess its kind of like drawing more flies with honey then vineger. Hey whatever works, if we can get the radical Left to stop hating religion so much we will be able to relate to them in future disagreements easier.