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Mel Gibson post-award press conference-"Kinship" with Michael Moore

Posted on 01/10/2005 10:33:48 AM PST by bushfamfan

Does anyone have the quotes that Mel Gibson apparently made after receiving his People's Choice Award in saying he felt a "kinship" with Michael Moore and attacking the war in Iraq?


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To: Centurion2000

I am sayine Crusades were Political not from any biblical scripture


201 posted on 01/10/2005 12:18:57 PM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: Annie03
Yup. You're always a clear thinker :)

I never said that.... ;-)

However there is some weird need of many FReepers to create "Us" and "Them" situations, regardless of whether or not the particular players really involved feel that way.

203 posted on 01/10/2005 12:23:19 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: missyme
I am sayine Crusades were Political not from any biblical scripture

The Crusades were self-defense of Christians coming to aid other Christians and fall directly in line with that Christ said in scripture.

205 posted on 01/10/2005 12:30:30 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: bushfamfan
And he is not religious like he claims. I could understand a rational reason in being against the war but to praise Michael Moore and the film and attack the President's reason shows what kind of person Mel Gibson is. HE IS NO CONSERVATIVE AND HAS NEVER BEEN.

Chill out.

Who cares if he is, that in no way justifies your leftist like questioning of his religiosity. The Passion was one of the finest films ever made, if he wants to reach out to the leftist that is his perogitive. Not everybody is in love with Bush like you are.

206 posted on 01/10/2005 12:31:28 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I can't believe I voted for this Cheap Labor Activist)
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To: Yonkers Finest
From reading the entire article, even Moore's words, it looks like Gibson and Moore were partaking in some professional courteousy where they did not want to bash each other but did not stray far from their own works messages.

This is still Hollywood, so I ask the question "What type of an ass would go to an awards ceremony and bash someone else winning an award in a different category?" or "What type of an ass of a PR person would let his/her client bash someone else winning an award in a different category?"

These two still want their respective audiences and some other "swing" viewers to come to their movies in the future...

208 posted on 01/10/2005 12:37:34 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: PleaseNoMore
Maybe someone could pull up some old Passion threads and look to see just WHO was on those threads blasting Mel. Compare those names to those blasting him in this thread.

Yeah, this "Bushfamfan" is psycho on this thread, I mean just totally hatefilled and crazed. Either they're a binary thinker incapable of seeing anything other than Bush worship as "conservative" or there are other reasons for this rumor-post. Incendentally, the DUmmies are having a big laugh at Bushfamfan's expense.

209 posted on 01/10/2005 12:37:34 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I can't believe I voted for this Cheap Labor Activist)
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To: bushfamfan

And Michael Moore liked The Passion. There ya go. Proof of a conspiracy between the two of them.


210 posted on 01/10/2005 12:37:53 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Bella_Bru

I agree....seems rather counter-productive IMO.


211 posted on 01/10/2005 12:41:10 PM PST by Annie03
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To: net ghost
The Passion was one of the finest films ever made....

I am proud to say it again, it is and it is easily going to be the most powerful experience I have ever had in a movie theatre.

Paleos are so cute when they shill for their anti-American pals.

I thought I was a neo-con and it was the paleos who hated this movie? No wait the "paleos" liked it because they're all anti semites. I need a scorecard to keep up with paranoid raving lunatics set on here.

212 posted on 01/10/2005 12:41:23 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I can't believe I voted for this Cheap Labor Activist)
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To: net ghost
No, they just hated blacks and Jews, which you apparently take as a positive sort of viewpoint.

My family members who were Democrats didn't hate blacks and Jews.

Economically, Dixiecrats really were simply a bunch of cracker populists; socially, they were class warriors. On foreign policy, they identified with the John Birch Society.

We were talking Democrats not Dixiecrats.

213 posted on 01/10/2005 12:43:30 PM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: net ghost
Dunno why it afflicts ubertrads and SSPXers so badly, though.

Hung up on the SSPX as well, huh?

214 posted on 01/10/2005 12:46:57 PM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA; bushfamfan

Awe Bushfamfan, lookie here. You have made people laught today!


215 posted on 01/10/2005 12:47:37 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: missyme

"True Christians were not part of the crusades..."


that's completely false. The several hundred thousand crusaders over the few centuries were certainly following the orders of the one true Church of the time, and most probably believed in the cause.

You can't just look at past Christian atrocities and claim that the people weren't Christian due to their actions. If that's the case, then I dare say there isn't a single 'true Christian' on earth and never will be, since everyone will fail and sin at some point. Just because this is inevitable doesn't make one a non-Christian.


216 posted on 01/10/2005 12:47:47 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: missyme

"Crusades and the Holocaust has nothing absolouetly nothing to do with Jesus Christ and his message to the entire human race."


Of course the Holocaust was nothing but pure evil and had nothing to do with any religion. I don't know why you used that in your example above.

But the Crusades were based in the religion of Christianity and the participants who fought, slaughtered, killed, and were killed by Muslims were Christians.

Sorry, but you can't rewrite history just because some of the facts are unsettling.

for instance, in 500 years, are people going to try to say that the 9-11 perps weren't 'real' Muslims?


219 posted on 01/10/2005 12:58:12 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: net ghost
It fits SSPXers so well.

Are you a former SSPX? How do you know this? Tell us about your experiences that make you so informed?

220 posted on 01/10/2005 12:59:50 PM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: missyme

"Mel is a sinner just like the rest of us he did something extraordinary that defied a heathen secular society Hollywood.. "


I've done nothing extraordinary to defy Hollywood.

Oh wait - there's some missing punctuation in that sentence, I think...


221 posted on 01/10/2005 1:04:45 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: missyme

"what did you do with GOD's money? "


You have no idea what I do with MY money. You also have no idea of the health of my own children, esp. my 2 year old child, nor what my family is going thru as a result. To hell with phony Mel and his millions. I could not care less how much he has nor how he spends it. I was not a fan of him using the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ to make a billion dollars, any more than I was a fan of a lying televangelist. I'm just happy I didn't get suckered into giving him any of MY money.

Please get off your high seat of judgement, as it decreases your credibility more than your total lack of punctuation.


222 posted on 01/10/2005 1:13:02 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: King David

I second that. Just proves that Hollywood is completely irrelevant.

If Mr. Gibson's participation in the film is what attracted you to the Passion of Christ, then you went for the wrong reasons. If folks feel used, then maybe they jumped the wrong bandwagon to begin with.

None of the Christians I know will be returning the Passion because of Gibson's comments. Though most of the folks I know put spiritual truth ahead of political banter.

But, by all means, banter.


223 posted on 01/10/2005 1:13:22 PM PST by Branzburg
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To: Blzbba

In the future?? Currently Muslims are saying the Terrorists are not real Muslims of ISLAM?


224 posted on 01/10/2005 1:14:22 PM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: missyme

"I am sayine Crusades were Political not from any biblical scripture"


I agree. However, the thousands of regular-guy soldiers were, for the most part, Christian in belief.

But yeah - the Church itself was mostly a corrupt political organization throughout the Middle Ages. Money and Power will do that to ya!


225 posted on 01/10/2005 1:14:28 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: missyme

"Currently Muslims are saying the Terrorists are not real Muslims of ISLAM?"


Moderates are saying this, but not the idiot imams and clerics.


226 posted on 01/10/2005 1:15:14 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: Blzbba

Politics has always been crossed with Religion if there was no religion I am sure there would not be any wars, this is been happening since Day 1


227 posted on 01/10/2005 1:16:25 PM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

"Not everybody is in love with Bush like you are."


Nope. I'm not, but I'm a fiscal conservative and thus dislike most of Bush's fiscal policies. Unlike Bush, I'm not a fan of more and bigger gov't.


228 posted on 01/10/2005 1:16:31 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: missyme

"Politics has always been crossed with Religion if there was no religion I am sure there would not be any wars, this is been happening since Day 1"


Sad but true.

I'm enjoying our responses, btw. Sorry for the snippy one I sent.


229 posted on 01/10/2005 1:18:32 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: Blzbba
Nope. I'm not, but I'm a fiscal conservative and thus dislike most of Bush's fiscal policies. Unlike Bush, I'm not a fan of more and bigger gov't.

mmmmm,k? You realize that my comment was towards the Bushbot that started this insipid thread right?

230 posted on 01/10/2005 1:20:14 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I can't believe I voted for this Cheap Labor Activist)
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To: Centurion2000

"Christianity is not pathetic pacifism."

Christ was the ultimate pacifist. Rather than shoot lightning bolts out of his eyes at the Romans, he allowed himself to be killed. He said love your enemy, and there's precious little of that among Christians I know. I don't love MY enemy, so don't think I'm preaching. I'm just saying it makes sense for a devout Christian to be against the war. I'm for the war, and I'm not a devout Christian.


231 posted on 01/10/2005 1:23:47 PM PST by mudblood
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To: mudblood
Christ was the ultimate pacifist.

He made quick work of the money changers in the temple for a pacifist!

232 posted on 01/10/2005 1:28:48 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

I see you aren't familiar with all my posts. I get slammed from Bush lovers because I am very critical of the President. The point is he isn't reaching out, he is one who sees Michael Moore and his film as respectable, likeable film. There is no excuse for that and it's for people to be informed that he does in fact embrace something like Fahrenheit 9/11.


233 posted on 01/10/2005 1:36:01 PM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan
There is no excuse for that and it's for people to be informed that he does in fact embrace something like Fahrenheit 9/11.

Where does it say that Gibson is embracing Farenheit 9/11? You might as well say that Gibson loved Farenheit 9/11...

234 posted on 01/10/2005 1:48:39 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: frog_jerk_2004

You're fine with Mel praising Fahrenheit 9/11, fine. You do know what that is about, don't you? Now tell me one good thing about Fahrenheit 9/11? Is that really such a Christian thing of Mel to do in praising a film that lashes out at George W. Bush for taking us to war for oil and profit, to lie and send our men and women to die for his deliberate lies? I have a serious problem with that.


235 posted on 01/10/2005 1:53:24 PM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

At least we still have Bruce Willis


236 posted on 01/10/2005 2:12:05 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: bushfamfan

At least we still have Bruce Willis


237 posted on 01/10/2005 2:12:12 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: bushfamfan

Did you find any quotes or sources yet?

I recall even before the Passion came out, Mel expressed his disagreement with going into Iraq, so this doesn't hugely surprise me.


238 posted on 01/10/2005 2:17:06 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: frog_jerk_2004

"Christ was the ultimate pacifist.
He made quick work of the money changers in the temple for a pacifist!"

Yeah the body parts of his victim were strewn across the temple. /sarcasm

Seriously though, can anyone cite an act of violence committed by christ other than throwing the moneychangers out of tht temple?


239 posted on 01/10/2005 2:18:15 PM PST by Clorinox
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To: bushfamfan

You know what I have a serious problem with? Posters who somehow are equating Christianity with a person's political beliefs - and they are becoming rampant on FreeRepublic. Christianity does not = Republican Party or Bush Policies or Support For The War.

Flame away.



240 posted on 01/10/2005 2:19:31 PM PST by gingerky
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To: Clorinox

If Jesus is not a god of love and understanding what was his goal on earth? What is Jesus' true message if it is not, "love thy neighbor"?


241 posted on 01/10/2005 2:20:01 PM PST by Clorinox
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To: Trippin

He is not a conservative. Did you hear what he said in his interview with Diane Sawyer? He is a conservative catholic...not a conservative.
Mel Gibson is as liberal as any in Hollywood.
Don't kid yourself.


242 posted on 01/10/2005 2:25:33 PM PST by MaryJaneNC
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To: bushfamfan

I agree with you completely.
Mel has shown his true colors...which really were not so hidden to start with...
Mel has been bashing our troops for a long time. Get a revelation people.
He made alot of cash.
End of story.
He is a religious catholic....and he even said he doesn'tknow if he will go to heaven or not. He says his wife won't because she isn't catholic.
He is nutcase.


243 posted on 01/10/2005 2:32:07 PM PST by MaryJaneNC
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To: Clorinox

Jesus took the bullet for us. He expects us to do the same. "Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." Going to war to save 25 million people from tyranny and oppression is very, very Christian. Living in denial and fear is not.

"As He died to make men holy let us die to make men free..." Battle Hymn of the Republic, verse 2.


244 posted on 01/10/2005 2:32:39 PM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: gingerky

amen to that


245 posted on 01/10/2005 2:35:40 PM PST by Yonkers Finest
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

"You realize that my comment was towards the Bushbot that started this insipid thread right?"


Yep - just showin' some solidarity!


246 posted on 01/10/2005 2:39:53 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: af_vet_1981

well said...

Mel Gibson is COMPLETELY HOLLYWOOD


247 posted on 01/10/2005 3:22:24 PM PST by MaryJaneNC
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To: roylene
Besides liberals are not pro-life or pro family or do they support Christianity.

Utter nonsense. You'll find many conservative atheists and liberal Christians. Christian and conservative are not synonyms.

248 posted on 01/10/2005 3:28:06 PM PST by Melas
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To: MaryJaneNC
.and he even said he doesn'tknow if he will go to heaven or not

The aboslute nerve of him not presuming he will go to heaven. - sarcasm

249 posted on 01/10/2005 3:46:14 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: bushfamfan
I see you aren't familiar with all my posts.

I'm familiar with these.

I get slammed from Bush lovers because I am very critical of the President.

Considering your HANDLE, color me suspicious of that.

The point is he isn't reaching out, he is one who sees Michael Moore and his film as respectable, likeable film.

Now you're moderating your tone? You were questioning the validity of the movie the Passion that he made and his sincerity of being religious, that's something the Left does, its a cheap shot not to mention unprovable. I disagree that he is reaching out, and doing it well, on the DU post (where they are making fun of you by the way "turning" on him FYI) they where greatly praising Gibson. Guess its kind of like drawing more flies with honey then vineger. Hey whatever works, if we can get the radical Left to stop hating religion so much we will be able to relate to them in future disagreements easier.

250 posted on 01/10/2005 4:04:35 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I can't believe I voted for this Cheap Labor Activist)
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