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Mel Gibson post-award press conference-"Kinship" with Michael Moore

Posted on 01/10/2005 10:33:48 AM PST by bushfamfan

Does anyone have the quotes that Mel Gibson apparently made after receiving his People's Choice Award in saying he felt a "kinship" with Michael Moore and attacking the war in Iraq?


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1 posted on 01/10/2005 10:33:49 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

He's a flaming liberal. I refuse to watch his movie too.


2 posted on 01/10/2005 10:36:37 AM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: bushfamfan

No, but I heard them on 1210am in Philly this morning. He said he liked F-9/11 and totally ripped the mission in Iraq.


3 posted on 01/10/2005 10:39:37 AM PST by SAR
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To: bushfamfan

Say WHAT????


4 posted on 01/10/2005 10:39:39 AM PST by King David (Cellllebrate Good Times... COME ON!!)
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To: biblewonk

I never really bought that he was this great conservative like many here seemed to believe. This kinship comment does it for me. He's on my boycott list. He suckered a lot of people with Passion though.


5 posted on 01/10/2005 10:40:05 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

If true, I'll admit that I'm as surprised as anyone.


6 posted on 01/10/2005 10:41:09 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: bushfamfan

Sometimes there is a big difference between a "social conservative" and a "conservative."


7 posted on 01/10/2005 10:41:50 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: biblewonk
There is virtually nothing liberal about Gibson. His kinship refers to the blasting of the films. He has said he thinks anyone who can (money..support..etc) should be allowed to make movies.
He has said for nearly two years he is unsure about the war in Iraq. None of this makes him a liberal. Besides liberals are not pro-life or pro family or do they support Christianity.
8 posted on 01/10/2005 10:41:51 AM PST by roylene
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To: SAR

See, folks, he liked Fahrenheit 9/11. Says it all. And he is not religious like he claims. I could understand a rational reason in being against the war but to praise Michael Moore and the film and attack the President's reason shows what kind of person Mel Gibson is. HE IS NO CONSERVATIVE AND HAS NEVER BEEN.


9 posted on 01/10/2005 10:42:05 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

He has said this before, he wants his Hollywood friends back.


10 posted on 01/10/2005 10:42:28 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: roylene

He praised Fahrenheit 9/11. He praises Michael Moore and his hate rhetoric propaganda film. There's something wrong there. He's a poser, folks.


11 posted on 01/10/2005 10:43:23 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: SAR

Well, that really is a disappointment. For starters, if he can't see the blatant propaganda in F9/11 he's as blind as a bat. How can you "like" propaganda? It's retarded. This is like a slap in the face for those who campaigned to get people to vote for Passion of the Christ.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 10:43:50 AM PST by Trippin
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To: King David

"Say WHAT????"

Are you aware Mel Gibson was going to finance Moore's movie? Moore claims the "White House" pressured gibson away from it.


13 posted on 01/10/2005 10:44:20 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Trippin; All

Y'all are all tripping out, accusing this man of something without even having the facts. And, to think that you accuse the liberals of being the ones who do this. Someone posts an "I heard this" post, with no source to back it up and you all go mad. This is pitiful.


14 posted on 01/10/2005 10:46:02 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: bushfamfan

Gibson's a nut, always has been ....but makes great movies. I'm particularly fond of Mad Max!


15 posted on 01/10/2005 10:46:07 AM PST by Gypssy (Smart, Womanly & Conversative! :-)~~~)
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To: bushfamfan
praise Michael Moore and the film and attack the President's reason

Please provide a link to the article where Gibson does this. I am curious to read it in it's entirety.

16 posted on 01/10/2005 10:46:28 AM PST by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: kassie

So far no "entirety". Someone heard something on the radio or television and well, here you have chaos.


17 posted on 01/10/2005 10:47:45 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: ColoCdn

OK - why are so many of you suprised??? One can be conservative and still opposed to the war in Iraq. Obviously Mr. Gibson is of that ilk. No one could doubt his cultural conservatism last year; but now, as he opposes this administration's ill-considered policies in Iraq, he is a "liberal"?

I suppose many of you think that "conservatism" equates with buying 100% into the ravings of Limbaugh and Hannity. Well, sorry - it does not, IMHO.


18 posted on 01/10/2005 10:48:37 AM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: bushfamfan
I never really bought that he was this great conservative like many here seemed to believe. This kinship comment does it for me. He's on my boycott list. He suckered a lot of people with Passion though.

Yes he suckered a ton of people around here with that and also with his acting like a military man on movies. Some people have a hard time discerning a real uniform from a costume. I think this Diehard character is probably the closest to his own philosophy.

19 posted on 01/10/2005 10:48:50 AM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: PleaseNoMore
I'll wait to pass judgment.
20 posted on 01/10/2005 10:49:01 AM PST by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: Trippin

I totally agree. I'm hoping he was mis-quoted (afterall, the MSM is so good at doing that) But, if the quotes are accurate, he's on my boycott Hollyweird list !!


21 posted on 01/10/2005 10:49:31 AM PST by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true!!)
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To: PleaseNoMore

Yup...gossip central. I won't comment on why I poked my nose in, then. :)


22 posted on 01/10/2005 10:50:01 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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To: biblewonk
Diehard character?
Methinks you are a bit confused.....
23 posted on 01/10/2005 10:50:22 AM PST by newcats
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To: SAR
"He said he liked F-9/11 and totally ripped the mission in Iraq."

Hmmm. . .kinda hypocritical for Mel to be ripping on a war considering the types of movies he usually makes.

24 posted on 01/10/2005 10:50:38 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: biblewonk

Bruce Willis played the Diehard character.


25 posted on 01/10/2005 10:50:41 AM PST by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: exnavychick

Heck, I just stumbled in to read the posts and people were freaking out.


26 posted on 01/10/2005 10:51:15 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: bushfamfan

Well, I found this :

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/18/1079199319258.html?oneclick=true

Seems Mel is a conservative, but not crazy about the Iraq war. That I can respect though. What I can't resepet is "liking" a piece of blatant propagandistic BS such as F9/11. There is nothing that makes sense about that.


27 posted on 01/10/2005 10:51:27 AM PST by Trippin
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To: PleaseNoMore

Post 3. It's apparently been all over the radio. Hopefully he'll make Google so we can expand on this. He's in a league with Michael Moore. He embraces someone who is a radical, hate-infested, anti-American nutcase. He praises his film and in the process clearly is indicting the President for going to war for oil and unsavory reasons.


28 posted on 01/10/2005 10:51:36 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

he played his religion all the way to the BANK


29 posted on 01/10/2005 10:51:50 AM PST by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: PleaseNoMore
Hey, before you all go mental on Mel, can someone VERIFY these comments? Thank you.
30 posted on 01/10/2005 10:52:47 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Seajay

He is a fan of Fahrenheit 9/11. He feels a 'kinship' with Michael Moore. That's radical and Gibson has some issues he needs to resolve with himself.


31 posted on 01/10/2005 10:53:00 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: newcats

Lethal Weapon, thanks.


32 posted on 01/10/2005 10:53:25 AM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: bushfamfan

key word = APPARENTLY.


33 posted on 01/10/2005 10:53:59 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Trippin

You got a password for that site FRiend?


34 posted on 01/10/2005 10:54:39 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: bushfamfan

Could you ping me when you get an answer? I'm interested to know what he said, not what people think he said or what the MSM interpreted him to say.

That said, I was one of few Christians who didn't really like The Passion. It was all right, but not amazing....


35 posted on 01/10/2005 10:54:56 AM PST by Theo
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To: biblewonk

Consider that it is said his father actually moved the family to Australia to avoid his sons being drafted and sent to Vietnam. Mel denies it. Why doesn't he just admit it?


36 posted on 01/10/2005 10:55:18 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

That may be true (I'm still waiting for more tangible prrof than "I heard" it) but he still is a cultural conservative. Isn't it funny how some people can keep you guessing ...


37 posted on 01/10/2005 10:56:10 AM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: biblewonk

I haven't heard the comments, but it seems to me that some people on this board are expecting too much out of Mel Gibson. He is a filmmaker who made the best film of the year, IMO, but he is not a politician. He is a celebrity, and since we don't take liberal ones seriously why do we take seriously those who take a conservative point of view. Either way, it is their one opinion only.


38 posted on 01/10/2005 10:56:37 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: Seajay

I'll take the ranting and raving of Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter and Malkin over Michael Moore's propaganda any day !!


39 posted on 01/10/2005 10:56:40 AM PST by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true!!)
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To: PleaseNoMore

Freaking out is right. There is no verification here, it's just one guy's question and now there's all this hullabaloo. Knee-jerk, anyone?


40 posted on 01/10/2005 10:56:50 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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To: Trippin
For starters, if he can't see the blatant propaganda in F9/11 he's as blind as a bat. How can you "like" propaganda? It's retarded.

I couldn't care less whether he approves or disapproves of the war in Iraq, but to praise F9/11 is stupidity. I did see the so called documentary and it's total trash. What other "conservatives" are praising F9/11? I don't think many.

41 posted on 01/10/2005 10:57:07 AM PST by IrishGOP
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To: roylene

I agree! Gibson is no liberal!


42 posted on 01/10/2005 10:58:28 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: bushfamfan

"Kinship" may mean that he also is a non-traditional director, taking on non-traditional projects, and that his most recent film did well because of non-standard promotion.

That said, I don't know. Let's chill and wait for the facts before assaulting him.


43 posted on 01/10/2005 10:58:40 AM PST by Theo
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To: rang1995

The thing is I don't buy that he lives his life in a religious way. And he apparently finds Michael Moore and his film to be acceptable. Nevermind Michael Moore saying our troops deserve their deaths because the terrorists in Iraq are the equivilent to our minutemen during the Revolutionary War.


44 posted on 01/10/2005 10:59:17 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Theo

It was amazing the world was able to see that Jesus Christ is the Risen Messiah of the world who loved everyone even the Michael Moore's and the insane followers of ISLAM


45 posted on 01/10/2005 11:00:25 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: missyme; roylene; exnavychick

Maybe someone could pull up some old Passion threads and look to see just WHO was on those threads blasting Mel. Compare those names to those blasting him in this thread.


46 posted on 01/10/2005 11:01:27 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Theo
"Kinship" may mean that he also is a non-traditional director, taking on non-traditional projects, and that his most recent film did well because of non-standard promotion.

That is how I read it too. Remember, Gibson's primary passion is filmmaking, and he very well may see similarities with a fellow filmmaker. People need to take a deep breath.

47 posted on 01/10/2005 11:01:43 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: Trippin

It might have something to do with the fact that Mel's Icon Productions backed out of the original deal to fund F9/11? Or could be the kinship thing was referring to their both having difficulties in funding and distribution? Who knows?


48 posted on 01/10/2005 11:03:32 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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I posted this because on another thread I read of someone who was listening to a radio show this morning and was disappointed in Mel's comments in regards to Fahrenheit 9/11, Michael Moore and his trashing the war in Iraq. I have known that he has basically been against the war, but his praise of that propaganda and Moore has gone to far and Gibson is on my boycott list now. He is no friend when he is that far out of it.


49 posted on 01/10/2005 11:04:20 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan
Oh for goodness sake! You are being ridiculous.
50 posted on 01/10/2005 11:04:50 AM PST by It's me
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