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The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God. Although a great many people on FR seem to believe that God doesn't have the power to have created evolution. They apparently think God put all that evidence out there just to fool us.

Like the death of Mark Twain, the stories about how Evolution is being reject by scientists have been greatly exagerated.

The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God.

And that's the problem. God is NOT irrelevant. Make up a fable of how a log cabin could come into existence without intelligent design. Such a tale would make the builder of the cabin "irrelevant". Unfortunately, since the builder is quite irrelevant, it makes the theory ignoring him irrelevant. Such is the fate of the theory of evolution. IT is irrelevant, not God.

a great many people on FR seem to believe that God doesn't have the power to have created evolution

On the contrary, we believe that God has the power to do as He pleases, including creating the entire universe in 7 days if that's the way it happened. It is the evolutionists who seek to rob God of power, believing that God doesn't have the power to have created the universe without evolution.

They apparently think God put all that evidence out there just to fool us

LOL. Uhm, no. We think God left plenty of evidence, and the evidence points to divine creation, NOT to a chance occurrence wherein He is "irrelevant" as you admit. As these intelluctuals like C.S. Lewis and his recently converted debate partner are concluding, based upon the evidence it is MORE logical to presume intelligent design than to presume evolution. If you want to take a huge leap of "faith" and believe in an evolutionary world in which God is "irrelevant" that is your choice; however, the odds are simply not in your favor.

Like the death of Mark Twain, the stories about how Evolution is being rejected by scientists have been greatly exagerated.

You mean Mark Twain is still alive!? ;-)

The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God.

The way I understand it, some evolutionists believe that once life began, there was no non-materialistic influences on how life came to be on this planet, which basically means no supernatural influence (speciation occurred for these evolutionists).

Other evolutionists say no involvement since the earth started cooling down (speciation and abiogenesis occurred for these evolutionists).

But for people who believe that there are influences other than naturalistic ones in the formation of life on the planet, abiogenesis and speciation are counter intuitive and for me - not believable. I do admit, however, that if I had the view that only naturalistic processes have occurred since the earth was molten magma (which evolutionary scientists believe), then believing in abiogenesis and evolution becomes more compelling.

Evolution is being reject by scientists have been greatly exagerated.

Of this I do not know. But for the rest of us, I think the influence of evolution is waning. I used to believe it for the most part, but due to the Cambrian explosion, and lack of transitional species, I tend to believe all life was created about the same time. And since science is better at creating theories based on empirical and testable information, it is better suited to current issues than guessing what happenened a long time ago with limited fossil evidence.

Although a great many people on FR seem to believe that God doesn't have the power to have created evolution.

I've never come across anybody who believed that, though there are plenty who see how silly the idea of theistic evolution is, at least when it's combined with Christianity. Death came into the world along with sin, but if evolution is true, we climbed up a mountian of death before we ever grew brains.

They apparently think God put all that evidence out there just to fool us.

Oh, evidence like irreducible complexity?

Like the death of Mark Twain, the stories about how Evolution is being reject by scientists have been greatly exagerated.

Some people are slow to give up their religion.

The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God.

Not even close to true.

There are those for whom the theory of evolution represents a direct attack on God. We see them all the time at FR.

There are also those who use the theory of evolution as an argument against God -- Richard Dawkins being one such.

Moreover, scientifically the theory of evolution is based on an essentially atheistic foundation -- if you look at it closely the a priori assumption is that God plays no role in anything.