It isn't torture because it isn't torture. Humiliating and degrading prisoners may be wrong (it is certainly wrong when done merely for the entertainment of the jailers). It may be criminal (ditto). For the sake of argument let's even say that it's as bad as torture.
But it's still not torture. Torture is a different thing.
I haven't see a single case of torture coming out of Abu Ghraib or anywhere else. Am I missing something?
Torture is watching one of our soldiers get eaten alive by leftists in our own military.
Depends on how high the pile is; pressing under heavy weights was a common medieval torture. That said, most of what's been described looks more like small-minded bullying than torture and makes us look, not brutal, but petty.
granted, but it is no worse that college hazing, NOT torture. If it were torture it might be a violation of international law, but not the Geneva Convention.
Precisely! Somebody should talk this over with victims of real torture: beatings, bamboo under the fingernails, glass splinters inside the penis, electric shock to the scrotum, broken bones, near drowning, traumatic amputations, ruptured eardrums, dislocated joints, witnessing the torture and/or murder of loved ones, starvation, disease. Then try to equate standing naked while a girl laughs at your private parts to that!
The whole argument is an absolute insult to those who have truly suffered torture during their service. Humiliation and degradation does not equal torture. Period.
1.a.) Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.
b) An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
2. Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense.
3. Something causing severe pain or anguish.
I agree. The left always likes to take words and change their meanings.
Debasement, humiliation = torture
marriage - two people "united"
voter's rights - illegals and criminals
every vote counts - only if they're for your candidate
separation of church & state - Christianity/Judaism not allowed
lots and lots more. There probably is a book out on the "newspeak" of the left.
Funny how the democrats were condeming the prison situation and blowing off 9/11. I think the prisoners needed a good attitude adjustment in preparation of them meeting their allah. The whole thing was blown out of proportion and reeks of democratic subertuge/election chaos. It didn't work and these were not RA soldiers involved. The dems try so hard to smear our military, but it will not work. Actually we should have all the democrats in the house and senate in prison wearing under-wear on their empty heads. Kennedy,kerry,durbin,schumer,conyers,watts, should be forced to wear womens' clothes. Shillary,pelosi, meeks, jackson water's, murray,mckinney,boxer, and landieu should all be forced to wear lumber jack clothing for that manly look. America would be a much better place if all the democrats/muslims were deported to(Never-Ever Land on the PDQ) Scott your point was dead on about the prison folly, it was not torture. They need to get over it and by the ways how many of them were raped by our soldiers as opposed to what the terrorists did to ours?
I doubt anyone who has been tortured would agree.