Group Threatens Lawsuit Over Crosses

Newsmax.com ^ | 11 January 2005 | Carl Limbacher

[concretebob]

A conservative group is threatening to sue the Secret Service for religious discrimination over security guidelines that would ban Christian crosses from President Bush's inaugural parade route.

[concretebob]

Didn't see this posted after a search.

[concretebob]

PING

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Thanks for the ping.

[NJ Neocon]

We Christians are not going to be satisfied until we are looked at as lunatics.

The S.S. are NOT baning crosses because they are crosses. PICTURES of a cross are fine. they are banning large "structures" which could double as weapons or containers of weapons. It is a safety issue to protect President Bush. Take it easy everybody.

[Columbine]

We Christians are not going to be satisfied until we are looked at as lunatics.

Amen!!

[Conspiracy Guy]

Yep.

[SuziQ]

GOOD GRIEF! Can these folks READ? There isn't a ban on any display of the cross, there's only a ban on crosses made from wooden sticks or attached to the same because they could be taken apart and used as weapon. Folks can display crosses made from cardboard that are hand-held, draw a picture of a cross, wear a cross or crucifix, or whatever.

Folks need to get some common sense!

[mlc9852]

We have real issues to be concerned about. I believe the Secret Service is banning crosses strictly for security purposes and I have no problem with that.

[brooklyn dave]

Now you're post makes sense. Why would there be crosses anyway? It's an innauguration parade, not a parade for religious rights. I am all for religious symbols of whatever persuasion, but sometimes our side can get just as wacky as the secularist/atheists in reaction to their paranoia.

[Conspiracy Guy]

This mean I can't carry a cross made out of two RPG's?

[Conspiracy Guy]

Seems like a silly suit to me.

[grellis]

GRAMMAR POLICE ALERT

Now you're post makes sense.

Which actually reads:

Now you are post makes sense.

Does that make sense?

[NJ Neocon]

GOOD GRIEF! Can these folks READ?

Its far easier to rant and manufacture religious indignation than to read and comprehend.

[tutstar]

thought it was easier to be rude and insulting...

[NJ Neocon]

Nope. Not reading is pretty easy.

Besides, I was being accurate. This is a ridiculous issue based a heck of a lot more on sanctamonious indignation that Anti-Christian persecution. We keep crying wolf like this and we will lose all credibility in the face of real persecution.

[brooklyn dave]

give me a f****** break. The post wasn't to you anyway. I am just typing my little ass off and am bound to make some typos.

[MineralMan]

Nobody's banning crosses at the inauguration. Wooden crosses are banned, as are signs with wooden sticks. Such could be used as weapons.

Anyone, however, may carry all the non-hard crosses they want. Make 'em out of cardboard; print 'em on a shirt. Whatever.

This is a bogus headline. If you read the article, you see that crosses, per se, are not banned at all.

[concretebob]

This was posted for its news value only, I read the article, I know what it says.
I never implied anything.
I thought it was interesting

[concretebob]

and I totally agree with you.

[concretebob]

I also agree with you, it is silly and stupid, and I guess my CROSSbow will have to stay in the truck.

[concretebob]

The headline came straight from NewsMax's website. It was not altered in any way.

[montag813]

What "crosses" are they afraid of? Was someone planning to erect a 20-foot tall cross on the parade route? I don't think so.

[concretebob]

With the anti christian lawyers union attacking Christianity on every front, it doesn't take much for some thin-skinned clerics to start screaming "discrimination" at the drop of a hat.

[NicknamedBob]

"...it doesn't take much for some thin-skinned clerics to start screaming..."

Fortunately, our "clerics" don't have armed hooligans to back up the screaming.

Reaction is appropriate, since they singled out "crosses," and the Secret Service is moving to clarify, but over-reaction is still over-reaction.

[Conspiracy Guy]

Looks like a few posters attacked the messenger here. Gee it's plum dangerous to post these days.

[television is just wrong]

We need to unite. Christians, jews, athiests and all. The muslims are our true enemy. At least the ridiculous ones.

[concretebob]

I try not to take anything personally.
After Parris Island, and rehab, it's hard to get upset over the small stuff.

[concretebob]

I beg your pardon, I am an armed hooligan.
I just don't let it show.

[NicknamedBob]

So, which "cleric" are you backing?

[Junior]

Don't confuse the fanatics here with facts. There is a breed of individual on this forum who sees religious persecution in everything.

[concretebob]

The one that saved my soul.

[NicknamedBob]

Er, okay. He can come, if He wants to, but He'll have to leave His cross where it is.

By the way, if He does come, I guess I'm ready, sort of.

[concretebob]

You can't guess, NB, you either are, or you aren't.
I don't think anyone is truly ready.
All we can do is live the best we can, treat others respectfully, and pray for guidance.

[NicknamedBob]

"All we can do is live the best we can, treat others respectfully, and pray for guidance."

Sorta what I meant...

[Drew68]

Was someone planning to erect a 20-foot tall cross on the parade route? I don't think so.

You'd be surprised...

[concretebob]

It is hard being a Christian, it is even harder being Christian in this world.
But we knew it wasn't going to be easy.
If it were easy, it wouldn't require faith.

[NicknamedBob]

I think I have the picture.

[MEGoody]

As I understand it, the Secret Service bans anything that could be used as a weapon. I could see someone grabbing a cross and using it to bash someone. (Now, if it can be proved that other items will be allowed along the parade route that would be potential weapons, then there would be a case.)

[concretebob]

Thank You for that.

[NJ Neocon]

I know. That was my point. Evangelicals see it everywhere. Catholics (of which I am one) see it in any honest criticism.

Thanks for the support.

[grellis]

Decaf, pal. Just be glad I didn't correct your spelling.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

1. We are in the middle of a war on terrorists.

2. Terrorists would love to blow up a bunch of people at the inauguration.

3. A cross would be a perfect place to hide a bomb.

It's not rocket science.