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Why Europe chooses extinction. Demographics is destiny. (Aprol 2003)
asia times ^ | Apr 8, 2003 | Spengler

Posted on 01/11/2005 3:07:47 PM PST by dennisw

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To: dennisw
The fall of Europe will be an unmitigated disaster for Christianity, much like the fall of Mecca/Medina would be for Islam.

St. Peters converted to a mosque? The priceless images of the Sistine chapel defaced and painted over? Every church, and cathedral plundered and destroyed? The treasure vaults of the Vatican plundered and destroyed? Every priest, deacon, bishop and cardnial put to death? The Pope executed, possibly beheaded publicly?

Yeah, it'll be disasterous. I'm sure that some are thinking, "That's Catholicism, not Christianity." Yet how many of the offshoots of Catholicism identify themselves solely by their Opposition to the church in Rome. Without the church, what function will they serve?

And this only scratches the surface of it. Islam's been champing at the bit to kill Rome for 1500 years and now they're going to get their chance. You thought there were celebrations when 911 happened. Just wait til Rome falls and their ancient enemy is dead and conquered. THAT will be cause to celebrate.

There are other thoughts that I don't dare utter, even to myself. But these should do for now.

Godspeed

21 posted on 01/11/2005 4:16:33 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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To: dennisw

Intresting post. Thanks


22 posted on 01/11/2005 4:26:32 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: America's Resolve
Just wait til Rome falls and their ancient enemy is dead and conquered.

First of all, Christ is not dead, nor will He be conquered (I read the back of the Book and He wins).

Second, Islam has raised it's hand against Israel and there is not one nation, government, culture, ruling family or belief system that has done that and survived and that is an obvious historical fact beginning with the exodus from Egypt.

I can take a hint, the future may look bleak for Europe, but based on history, Islam's fate is sealed. Hegemony is not the future for the followers of Allah.

23 posted on 01/11/2005 5:04:42 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: Odyssey-x

Europe has no Future. It has aborted it' future!


24 posted on 01/11/2005 5:15:44 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: dennisw
An article worth reading but not worth swallowing.

As for original sin, otherwise known as man's fallen nature,this is one of the few theological concepts empirically demonstrated by human history.

25 posted on 01/11/2005 5:29:56 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: dennisw
America is just as sick and just as dying as Europe. They both suffer from the same diseases: softness caused by wealth and political correctness spread through the centralized schools and media. The worship of multiculturalism is an American sickness exported to Europe. The aging of the population is not caused by low birth rates but by medical science, and will spread to all countries as soon as they acquire a modern medical infrastructure.
26 posted on 01/11/2005 7:26:49 PM PST by jordan8
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To: dennisw
In 200 years, French and German will be spoken exclusively in hell.

I got a feeling that writer of the article does not like French and Germans.

27 posted on 01/11/2005 7:31:58 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: atomicpossum
"Pretty static thinking"

For any individual adult from a purely economic point-of-view, more kids makes less sense in our current economic/governmental system. It's a sort of Prisoner's Dilemma where more kids in general helps everyone with more people paying into Social Security, etc. However, any one individual makes out like a bandit if he gets all the benefits without the cost of bringing up a bundle or two of joy.

The only reasons to have children are primarily non-economic ones that are inspired by individuals' personalities and values. I believe that over time those people who don't want to have babies will be pushed out by those who happen to want to have babies. At the point when everyone thinks that the world population is about to plunge off a cliff, a new baby boom will arise from the remaining souls who were the offspring of those "idiots" who just decided they wanted to have some kids to take care of.

28 posted on 01/11/2005 7:45:36 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: GOP_1900AD
"and the nanny state with the family"

Nations have been experimenting with government programs to encourage more births. So rather than scaling down the nanny state, the answer has been to ramp it up even more.

The evidence now coming in is that most of these efforts are for nought as the benefits they can afford to provide do not compensate for the costs of brining up baby.

If there were no Social Security or Medicare system, and people had to have kids in order to guarantee their safety and prosperity in their old ages, then people would essentially be required to have kids, as it was in the old days.

Trying to get 51% of the population of any country to agree to go back to such an arrangement, however, is a pipe dream IMHO.

29 posted on 01/11/2005 7:50:38 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: dennisw
The French know that Victor Hugo, Gauloise cigarettes, Chateau Lafitte and Impressionist painters one day will become a matter of antiquarian curiosity.

No they won't. All infidel art will be burned when sharia law is established.

30 posted on 01/11/2005 11:28:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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