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Stolen Election?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | January 12, 2005 | WSJ

Posted on 01/12/2005 5:46:59 AM PST by Brilliant

Democrat Christine Gregoire will be sworn in as Washington's Governor today, possibly thanks to voters such as Mary Coffey, James Courneya and Rosalie Simpson. Why do we mention them in particular? Because, as the Seattle Post-Intelligencer recently reported, they're all dead...

Revelations of the formerly living casting ballots in elections isn't new to American politics, although it's something most of us thought was a relic of the late Richard Daley's Chicago. But this isn't the only jaw-dropper to have come out of Washington's gubernatorial race, which Ms. Gregoire claims to have won -- on a third recount, by 129 votes -- over Republican Dino Rossi. Now Mr. Rossi is contesting the result in state court...

Mr. Rossi certainly has a mountain of evidence on his side. In December, officials in King County...discovered 573 "erroneously rejected" absentee ballots, plus another 150 uncounted ones that showed up in a South Seattle warehouse. There were reports that hundreds of voters were registered in storage rental facilities and private mailboxes, that felons had voted, and that military ballots were sent out too late to be counted. Then we learned that several hundred provisional ballots had simply been fed into voting machines, making it impossible to authenticate their legality. Now it turns out the number of votes cast in King County exceeds the total number of voters by about 1,800.

County election officials insist these are all honest goofs, and that the vote tally was "99.9% accurate." ... But when the outcome of an election hinges on a considerably smaller fraction than 0.1%, the Ivory soap standard isn't good enough. ...53% of Washingtonians believe Mr. Rossi won... 36% ...think Ms. Gregoire won... Washingtonians also want a revote by a similar margin.

We sympathize with Mr. Rossi.... But ...no court is likely to reverse the result...

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2004election; 2004electionfraud; ballotstuffing; christinegregoire; corruption; crime; deadvoters; demfraud; democratscheat; dinorossi; electionfraud; electionlaws; fec; feclaws; gregoire; howtostealanelection; rattricks; rossi; stealingelections; themostcorruptstate; votefraud; voterfraud; wagovernor; washington; washingtonfraud
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1 posted on 01/12/2005 5:46:59 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
"Voting by dead people isn't always a scam."
Jonathan Martin and David Heath
Seattle Times
January 5, 2005

The moral values of the Left. (They're baffled by the 2004 Presidential Election.)


2 posted on 01/12/2005 5:52:36 AM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush!)
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To: Brilliant
The real fraud occurred in Ohio. This is just a scam to distract the America from the fact that Bush stole the election. </ insane DU rant>
3 posted on 01/12/2005 5:53:17 AM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: Brilliant

One thing about the Washington State Democrats, They pulled out all the stops.

They didnt stop at finding lost ballots, they didnt stop at disenfranchising the military, they didnt stop at feeding bad ballots into the machine. No sir. They didnt pull any punches. They read the book and they added some new chapters.

If there was ever an outright theft of an election more open than this I havent witnessed it. Somebody belongs in jail on this one.


4 posted on 01/12/2005 5:56:32 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Brilliant

These demorats are dead serious.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 5:57:22 AM PST by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Brilliant

Looks like they stole it. I doubt that it will be fixed.


6 posted on 01/12/2005 5:57:29 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Brilliant
Site Meter
The Washington State Democratic Party, making the Chicago based Daley machine look honest...
7 posted on 01/12/2005 5:57:54 AM PST by KMC1
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To: Brilliant

Yes this was a stolen election. We need to keep this in the national front as well. The demoRats that control the state will want this swept under the rug as quickly as possible.


8 posted on 01/12/2005 5:58:23 AM PST by Northwesterner (Question corruption)
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To: sgtbono2002

The FBI ought to be pouring over the evidence trying to find a few of them to throw in jail. Why not fingerprint the ballots that mysteriously appeared to save the day for Gregoire after she'd already lost two recounts?


9 posted on 01/12/2005 5:59:11 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: sgtbono2002

Every time a lib states that Bush wasn't legitimately elected, I ask them, based on their logic, if they agree it's ok for him to run again in 2008 and 2012. That usually shuts them up.


10 posted on 01/12/2005 5:59:14 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (MY COUSIN GREG IS HOME SAFE FROM IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: sgtbono2002

How about we start with the DemonRat candidate?


11 posted on 01/12/2005 6:00:35 AM PST by bandleader
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To: Publius; holyscroller; goodnesswins; rockrr; Baynative; sionnsar; Libertina; HannaUSA; ...

Ping


12 posted on 01/12/2005 6:01:12 AM PST by llevrok (We don't need no stinking ballots!)
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To: Savage Beast

Outrageous!


13 posted on 01/12/2005 6:03:59 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Brilliant

The governorship is a lost cause for Rossi at this point, but the GOP needs to put its money where its mouth is. Proof of election fraud should be presented to a GJ, and those who perpetrated it should be charged with a crime. Otherwise, all this will look like sour grapes.


14 posted on 01/12/2005 6:06:02 AM PST by randita
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To: Savage Beast

OMG is that quote for real???

Got a link??


15 posted on 01/12/2005 6:06:08 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (A joke is a very serious thing.)
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To: Brilliant
"County election officials insist these are all honest goofs, and that the vote tally was "99.9% accurate."

Well, who can know that? Since the 'win' was only by 129 votes and in only one instance, 1,800 ballots are in question, me thinks the Pubbie has a strong case to challenge the election.

16 posted on 01/12/2005 6:07:21 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Brilliant

Gregoire will be the governor. Short of another election, I don't know how the people would rescind the executive power from her once it has been vested. Let's look to the future. Maria Cantwell's seat in the Senate. Dino Rossi should take her on. Like Jim Talent and the shenanigans in Missouri of 2000, he could win a Senate seat in two years.


17 posted on 01/12/2005 6:07:25 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Brilliant

Prosecutions, anyone?


18 posted on 01/12/2005 6:07:30 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: sgtbono2002; Brilliant

Somebody belongs in jail on this one.

Of course you're right and the citizens of Washington will be denied their democratically elected Governor for four years, but this is the key stat coming out of this election:  53% of Washingtonians believe Mr. Rossi won... 36% ...think Ms. Gregoire won.

This won't be forgotten, not for a long time.  This is the kind of thing that turns a light blue state light red, and then RED.  The D's are so desperate now, they'll steal an election out in the open and damn the consequences.  Tomorrow, there will be hell to pay at the polls for this.  Was it really worth it?

(Also, I'm not anywhere near an expert on the man, but a lot of WA FReepers have suggested that Rossi is a RINO so he might not be a bad one to take one for the team)

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

19 posted on 01/12/2005 6:07:59 AM PST by South Hawthorne ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;" –Thomas Paine)
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To: Brilliant
And where is her heiney. She stood up on the Senate floor and insisted that she would be as outraged about an election of a democrat as she was of the election of our President.

Insisting that the Ohio votes were not accurate and protesting the certification of those votes.

20 posted on 01/12/2005 6:09:02 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Savage Beast

In line with the thinking of Dan Rather, who, when speaking of bill clinton, insisted a person could lie and still be an honest person.


21 posted on 01/12/2005 6:09:51 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Brilliant

I wonder what our founding fathers would have done about this. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


22 posted on 01/12/2005 6:10:29 AM PST by GoDuke
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To: Owl_Eagle
(Also, I'm not anywhere near an expert on the man, but a lot of WA FReepers have suggested that Rossi is a RINO so he might not be a bad one to take one for the team)

What is it about the strange culture on FR that we need to practice fratricide every chance we get?

23 posted on 01/12/2005 6:11:09 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
53% of Washingtonians believe Mr. Rossi won... 36% ...think Ms. Gregoire won.

At least that is heartening news!

24 posted on 01/12/2005 6:13:34 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: An.American.Expatriate
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2002144006_deadvoters06m.html

Of course, they open the article with a dead person's ballot for W and Rossi.

25 posted on 01/12/2005 6:21:05 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Drango
What is it about the strange culture on FR that we need to practice fratricide every chance we get?

Well, to answer that question honestly, I think I speak for many here when I say that I'm a BIG C Conservative and a little r Republican.  I recently ran for office and I ran as an R, because of the two major parties, there was little choice.  However many of my fellow R candidates didn't share any of the Conservative convictions that I have.

There was a raging controversy on the PA board after Specter (RINO) beat Pat Toomey (Cr) in the primary.  Many felt they'd rather have the enemy they know, not working in their name (Joe Hoeffel D), than the unpredictable, political opportunist working as a Republican.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

26 posted on 01/12/2005 6:21:32 AM PST by South Hawthorne ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;" –Thomas Paine)
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To: Northwesterner

Unfortunately WA is mostly democratic thus the demo will win and people of WA will forget during the next election.

I sincerely hope they remember and rise against this type of treachery.


27 posted on 01/12/2005 6:24:44 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: Brilliant
"Now it turns out the number of votes cast in King County exceeds the total number of voters by about 1,800."

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a fraud. Democrat vote fraud. Red friggin' handed.

28 posted on 01/12/2005 6:25:51 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: cotton1706

Does Washington state have a recall procedure for governor?


29 posted on 01/12/2005 6:28:44 AM PST by Wiser now (A bitter, sour old woman is the crowning work of the devil.)
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To: cotton1706
It has been widely reported that Rossi is not interested in a Senate seat, but only in reforming Washington State government. Beyond that, do you think that he could beat Cantwell? If the present election fraud is not overturned, then who would have faith in the next election to be more honest with Gregoirevych running the state machinery.
30 posted on 01/12/2005 6:30:26 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Strutt9

"Unfortunately WA is mostly democratic thus the demo will win and people of WA will forget during the next election."

I don't think that WA is mostly Democratic wrt the Governor race - King County (specifically Seattle) is and it's the most populated county in the state. I don't remember the specifics, but I want to say that only about 7 of the 39 counties went to Fraudoire; and, that about 52% of King County outside of Seattle went to Rossi.

You are correct though in that the Dims hold the majority in both houses of the state legislature (just barely in the Senate). I suspect that if a revote was held for them now, they would lose some of that majority.


31 posted on 01/12/2005 6:38:29 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: sgtbono2002

A lot of people belong in jail for this.


32 posted on 01/12/2005 6:53:02 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: No cliches!)
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To: Truth29

Cantwell won by the skin of her teeth last time after a long recount and she's in debt now. It's obvious that the democrats in Washington statewide elections are on the knife's edge of losing power. If Rossi doesn't want a Senate seat, then he should work to get the legislature changed and then he can challenge Gregoire in the next election, whenever that may be, a recall or in 4 years. But I believe the Senate seat is there for the taking.


33 posted on 01/12/2005 7:14:22 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: mysterio
Looks like they stole it. I doubt that it will be fixed.

Are you saying we should just walk away?

34 posted on 01/12/2005 7:23:30 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || Kiev County: http://www.soundpolitics.com)
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To: randita
the GOP needs to put its money where its mouth is. Proof of election fraud should be presented to a GJ, and those who perpetrated it should be charged with a crime.

It's underway already.

35 posted on 01/12/2005 7:24:21 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || Kiev County: http://www.soundpolitics.com)
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To: Owl_Eagle; LibreOuMort
(Also, I'm not anywhere near an expert on the man, but a lot of WA FReepers have suggested that Rossi is a RINO so he might not be a bad one to take one for the team)

Huh? Rossi a RINO?

36 posted on 01/12/2005 7:25:41 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || Kiev County: http://www.soundpolitics.com)
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To: Brilliant

CHEATERS...the rats can only win an election when they commit voter fraud...


37 posted on 01/12/2005 7:27:34 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: cotton1706
Only once since FDR's first election in 1932 has Washington tossed out an incumbent Democrat Senator -- and that incumbent was 85 years old, couldn't walk and couldn't string more than about 5 cogent words together (Magnuson in the Reagan election of 1980).

Cantwell has none of those problems, and is, in fact, pretty well situated with the largely union blue collar, radical environmental and gay/free sex interests that between them, dominate Seattle. She has also portrayed herself rather successfully with the large moderate Democrat cohort that dominates the party outside of Seattle - it is these Democrats, largely from the Puget Sound Megalopolis surrounding Seattle, that abandoned Gregoire in surprising numbers.

So I don't see where the "pity" vote for Rossi really overcomes those built-in advantages that Cantwell has here.

And on top of that, the Democrat Fraud Machine will still be intact in this state (it might even be more powerful and determined, with this success and the fear of failure now motivating them) -- that comes from the state government -- so why would we expect a different result in that race? And electing a Republican U.S. Senator will do nothing to fix Washington state's problems that are so evident here.

38 posted on 01/12/2005 7:29:38 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: The_Victor
</ insane DU rant>

You have repeated yourself..

39 posted on 01/12/2005 7:44:10 AM PST by DrDavid (Tomorrow will be an even better day...)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I live in Washington state and what has happened is simply the most obvious case of fraud ever committed in modern times. The DNC pulled out all the stops and the unions who finance the operation went at it full throttle. A stolen election anywhere is wrong and the spotlight of truth must stay on this. I would bet our state voted for Bush also if the count were correct. Patti Murray won also and she should have been outed also. She is a Clinton kool aid drinker along with Cantwell. The state now has three,count em, three Clintonites running the show. Shame shame shame.


40 posted on 01/12/2005 7:47:47 AM PST by cousair (i)
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To: DrDavid
You have repeated yourself..

You're right. That might even qualify as triply redundant.

41 posted on 01/12/2005 7:48:58 AM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I'm from Massachusetts and we have the same problem here. The key is to break the stranglehold on the legislature and the government machinery. My guess is Rossi could have begun to do this if he had "won" like our governor is trying to do. We had a whole slate of great opponent candidates in the last election. Unfortunately we had no statewide election and we had a "favorite son" running on the national ticket. We didn't get anywhere in the election and even lost a seat in the senate. However, in two years, I think we can make some inroads.


42 posted on 01/12/2005 7:56:51 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Brilliant
This has no doubt been noted before:

Hugh Hewitt was dead-on with his point (and book) of "if it ain't close, they can't cheat". Well, in Washington it was close ...

43 posted on 01/12/2005 7:59:21 AM PST by glennaro
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To: cotton1706

Our legislature in Washington state is pretty evenly divided...with the DNC holding the trump card in the vote. We try, but the fraud didn't just happen in this election there. It has been going on for years. Believe it, the state everywhere except around Seattle is very heavily populated by the GOP....true in Spokane area and near the southern border around Vancouver. I am amazed at the bold DNC attack in the face the THREE RECOUNTS...after the two Rossi won, the DNC knew exactly how many votes they needed for a third....amazing how fraud and stolen election work!!


44 posted on 01/12/2005 8:03:33 AM PST by cousair (i)
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To: An.American.Expatriate; OldFriend; Rummyfan

In all fairness, you should read the article and see what they have to say.


45 posted on 01/12/2005 8:11:20 AM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush!)
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To: Savage Beast

I did read it. The clerical errors are "acceptable" - knowingly voting in the name of someone else is not. And, the headline was designed to be misleading.


46 posted on 01/12/2005 8:34:22 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (A joke is a very serious thing.)
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To: sionnsar; Owl_Eagle
I've never heard any Washington Freeper say Rossi is a RINO, let alone "a lot".
47 posted on 01/12/2005 8:39:50 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Christine Fraudoire is not my governoire.)
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To: sionnsar
Absolutely not. Rossi won. However, I think that this election is not getting overturned. It simply astounds me that people would support her when the evidence of cheating is so blatant.
48 posted on 01/12/2005 8:49:19 AM PST by mysterio
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Rossi is most definitely not a RINO.


49 posted on 01/12/2005 8:54:10 AM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: gogeo; sionnsar; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Again, I'm on the other side of the country and would NEVER try to tell someone from Washington (or even around there, or someone who followed the race closely at all) that they were wrong and I was right.  But just for example, not a FReeper, but I remember Michael Medved (who does live in WA) saying that the Libertarian candidate took an unusually high amount of votes because a lot of C's thought Rossi was a RINO.  Given, Medved hates third party candidates and voters (quite irrationally, in my opinion).

If you all think he's not, then that's good enough for me.  Just thought I'd point out one known source.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

50 posted on 01/12/2005 9:05:33 AM PST by South Hawthorne ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;" –Thomas Paine)
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